Black Bolt's Scream vs. Superman

Started by Jebus reborn24 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the Characters in marvel who have destroyed planets have one, destroyed smaller planets from what I have seen, than earth, and two, used some kind of weapon or energy. I'm sure Superman or wonderwoman can move the earth too if they weren't pulling AGAINST the sun's gravity. would be easy to move it in another direction. We dont' know how big the star gladiator was pulling against, or the mass of the planet, or which way. And yes, Even captain america said that DC heroes where generally more powerful. So just let that one go.
Every time a planet is ever moved... it has to be moved against the sun's gravity... 😐
I don't see why you always bring that up.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Every time a planet is ever moved... it has to be moved against the sun's gravity... 😐
I don't see why you always bring that up.

If you move a planet towards the sun, you are moving it with the sun's gravity.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the Characters in marvel who have destroyed planets have one, destroyed smaller planets from what I have seen, than earth, and two, used some kind of weapon or energy. I'm sure Superman or wonderwoman can move the earth too if they weren't pulling AGAINST the sun's gravity. would be easy to move it in another direction. We dont' know how big the star gladiator was pulling against, or the mass of the planet, or which way. And yes, Even captain america said that DC heroes where generally more powerful. So just let that one go.

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You know nothing. Like I said they have destroyed planets under there own powers. Now when i show you this scan i want you to actually look at it. The planet that gladiator is about to bust up has about nine moons and he simply destroys it under his own power. No earth bound hero that is in dc have ever done a feat like this to my knowledge. If they have a scan would be quiet nice.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8620/gladiatorvsplanet10tq.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6690/gladiatorvsplanet24rd.jpg

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If you move a planet towards the sun, you are moving it with the sun's gravity.

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He was right and you dont know what the hell youre talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
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He was right and you dont know what the hell youre talking about.

you mean like how if you move the moon towards the earth, you are moving the move towards the earth's gravity? not against it?

Originally posted by UniOmni
I thought it was created to be sharp enough to shave an electron off an atom?

That's different than being enchanted to be able to cut anything. That's just being sharp on a scientific level.

And Banshee isn't BB.

Nowadays, it'd likely be the same in type, since Marvel is slowly but surely turning him into a superstrong guy with a superstrong sonic scream, while phasing out his uber electron control for some odd reason, but in a world that makes sense him and the silver Banshee are two entirely different animals, with him being the much more powerful animal.

His voice is supposed to severely scramble all the electrons in the immediate area, with the more effort he puts into the words, the more drastic the reaction.

Capable of blowing the electrons off an atom.

That's much more dangerous than a sonic shriek.

Do you know what should happen to anybody who has their electrons blown off their atoms, i repeat?

And Equus from For Tomorrow and others show that Superman can be cut and isn't imperviously shielded.

Unless you wanna go the route of TP and just throw it out the window cuz you don't like it?

Would Superman survive a scream?

I highly doubt it, but i'm pretty sure it wouldn't get to that point in a comic anyways.

Wonder Woman isn't my strong point, but I'm pretty sure it's magical.

Some sites agree.
http://www.starnet-database.com/dbase_deo/profiles/wonder_woman/wonder_woman.html
"She has used a magical sword reputed to be able to cleave almost any material and magical shield"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman
"Her deadliest piece of battle-gear is a magically forged sword (again a gift from Hephaestus), so sharp that it can carve the electrons off an atom. "

The Wonder Woman FAQ at comicbookresources.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-1259.html
"Diana’s sword, also forged by Hephaestus, is so sharp that it can cleave the electrons from an atom"

I could post more and more, if I felt like scouring the tons of sites that came up when I typed it in my search engine, but I think that says it.

I'm still certain Superman would survive it. He's survived worse, and will continue to as his comics go on. KO? Maybe.
Though I do agree, it wouldn't get that far.
Superman would have already won. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator did fly out of a blast that was stated could destroy a universe unfazed.

Exaggerate much?

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Originally posted by carver9
By the way superman cant move no planet. He had to sundip in order to move war world. Damn some people dont know what they are talking about. The sad thing about it was that war world was the size of pluto, not even close to the size of earth and he had to sun dip but gladiator has done those feats under his own power.

Superman has stated that he has moved a planet out of orbit. I posted the scan in another thread where you said Superman can’t move a planet.

What you fail to comprehend about him moving war world is that Brainiac 13 tried to use the power of Imperiex and all of the energy Imperiex had gathered from galaxies to try and stop Superman from moving Warworld but failed. He wasn’t just moving a planet but a planet trying to stop him from moving it.

Why is such a big deal being made about Equss' claws? They were stated to angel bones and by extension magical.

nvrbeenwthagirl is right it's easier to move a planet towards the sun than away from it.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman has an aura that can be manipulated.

It's not like a bonafide forcefield.

Hence him being cut on an extremely sharp blade, ala Wonderwoman.

Do you understand what having the electrons blown off your atoms should do to someone in a logical world?

Vaporization, or a literal unmaking.

He should be a mere memory if comics used the sciences as a reference point at least, which would validate the voice not being used at all.

About WW's blade cutting him. You do realize that it only happened because it was a magical sword right?

Back to the topic. A mere whisper from BB has ko'ed the hulk before. A full on scream and there will be nothing of Superman left.

Originally posted by Rorschach
Superman has stated that he has moved a planet out of orbit. I posted the scan in another thread where you said Superman can’t move a planet.

What you fail to comprehend about him moving war world is that Brainiac 13 tried to use the power of Imperiex and all of the energy Imperiex had gathered from galaxies to try and stop Superman from moving Warworld but failed. He wasn’t just moving a planet but a planet trying to stop him from moving it.

I will agree that in this feat he was doing much more than simply moving a planet, so even without the boost from the sundip he might of still been able to just move the planet itself but it is really hard to say.

Supes has done other stuff like shake the entire planet just from the shockwave of his punches, and thats while he was fighting in the upper atmosphere. I know while he was poisoned by kryptonite he was pounding inside the watchtower and almost knocked the moon out of orbit.

There are also constant remarks made about Superman and Supergirl about them cracking the planet in half, which is usually in regards to them losing control of their powers.

I dont know if he is a bonafide planet mover yet, but his power levels are creeping back up again. He is definitely capable of moving the moon tho.

Some other nice feats are when he fought WW he took her all the way to the sun and they were fighting in front of it. He hits her so hard the force sends her all the way back to Earth. This is not only impressive cuz he knocks her over 90 million miles, but he hits her hard enough to where she easily escapes the immense gravity of the sun.

If he cant move planets as of now, he is damn close.

hell if Hulk walks away unscathed ( 🙄 ) Superman walks away with...never-mind PG-13 board

Originally posted by Che$t Rockwell
About WW's blade cutting him. You do realize that it only happened because it was a magical sword right?

Back to the topic. A mere whisper from BB has ko'ed the hulk before. A full on scream and there will be nothing of Superman left.

I said that the sword created for her was stated to be so sharp it's sharp enough to cut an electron off an atom.

It's not enchanted to be able to cut anything because it's magical, but because it's able to cut an electron off an atom.

Scientific basis is the edge of that sword, so while it was made in magic, it's danger comes from all science.

Only proving the point that Superman can be damaged by things not only magical or k-nite related.

Didnt he tear a hole in reality with a scream? All that'd be left is a small scrap of cape floating in the wind.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I said that the sword created for her was stated to be so sharp it's sharp enough to cut an electron off an atom.

It's not enchanted to be able to cut anything because it's magical, but because it's able to cut an electron off an atom.

Scientific basis is the edge of that sword, so while it was made in magic, it's danger comes from all science.

Only proving the point that Superman can be damaged by things not only magical or k-nite related.

It's danger to Superman however, is because it's magic. I don't believe an items level of sharpness means much to him.
Tell me, do you believe Wolverine could walk up and slice up Superman?

Originally posted by Juntai
It's danger to Superman however, is because it's magic. I don't believe an items level of sharpness means much to him.
Tell me, do you believe Wolverine could walk up and slice up Superman?

It was founded in magic, but it's danger comes from the science edge.

Kinda like Cap Marvel.

Founded in science, but his equal status to Superman comes from all the brawn he packs in his magically made muscles.

And do i think Wolverine could walk up and slice Superman?

Going by durability feats, i'd say yeah.

I can't think of one top tier he hasn't been able to at least slash, and if it happened in a comic, yeah he'd slash and give Superman paper cuts.

Not logically based, but he works beyond that, akin to Superman.

Funny thing is, Adamantium isn't said to be insanely sharp, but just unbreakable.

Writers with liberties, i say.

Originally posted by UniOmni
It was founded in magic, but it's danger comes from the science edge.

Kinda like Cap Marvel.

Founded in science, but his equal status to Superman comes from all the brawn he packs in his magically made muscles.

And do i think Wolverine could walk up and slice Superman?

Going by durability feats, i'd say yeah.

I can't think of one top tier he hasn't been able to at least slash, and if it happened in a comic, yeah he'd slash and give Superman paper cuts.

Not logically based, but he works beyond that, akin to Superman.

Funny thing is, Adamantium isn't said to be insanely sharp, but just unbreakable.

Writers with liberties, i say.

A magic sword slicing Superman [which was only done in Kingdom Come that I recall anyways, though I'm sure it could.] goes nowhere towards proving that. You say it's because of the swords sharpness, however we know Superman is able to be cut by magic, it's happened before, and will again again. However, ordinary weapons bounce off.

Originally posted by Juntai
A magic sword slicing Superman [which was only done in Kingdom Come that I recall anyways, though I'm sure it could.] goes nowhere towards proving that. You say it's because of the swords sharpness, however we know Superman is able to be cut by magic, it's happened before, and will again again. However, ordinary weapons bounce off.

It's the magic that allows it to pierce him and the sharpness that allows it to cut him so easily. WW had to throw her tiara with a lot of power to cut clarks chin. You can bursh against the sword and get cut. Hence it's a combine of magic and science that allows him to be cut.

It was founded in magic but the danger comes from the science edge?

IMO that makes absolutely no sense.

The magic overrided Kal-el's bioaura and then the blade with WW's strength is able to slice Supes.

That's it.

Originally posted by carver9
Anyone under thanos should get vaporized.

Based on showings : Superman's durability > Thanos' durability.