Originally posted by llagrok
Get me some scans of that.Holocaust beat up Exiles no problem. Morph was turned into squish.
I am, I'm guess I'm going to be building a respect thread
I'm talking about speed and agility, she was jumping all over Holocaust and he really didn't do anything. I'm talking about when he was in AoA.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I am, I'm guess I'm going to be building a respect threadI'm talking about speed and agility, she was jumping all over Holocaust and he really didn't do anything. I'm talking about when he was in AoA.
Dude, Holocaust IS a chump. 😛 He may be Apoc's kid, but he's a complete failure for his power set and abilities. Hell, I got him kicked down to high/mid tier meta.
Originally posted by King_MungiI've compiled scans to make one, just haven't gotten around to uploading them all.
Wasn't there a Blink Respect Thread on this board? I could have swore there was. If not I'm willing to make one as she is a beast!
Originally posted by NewjakShe can teleport parts of things.
The problem is that she couldn't and has never shown the ability to teleport body parts off. The only time that it gets mentioned is when Hyperion says she could have teleported his head off.She never actually does it.
Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Originally posted by llagrok
He can.Giving them Magnus and Holocaust in round makes it a curbstomp. Didn't notice those guys.
Think about what you guys are saying.
breathe /brið/
–verb (used without object)
1. to take air, oxygen, etc., into the lungs and expel it; inhale and exhale; respire.
The word you guys are looking for is "survive".
Originally posted by King_MungiHe snorted Holocaust because Holocaust was made up of the energy that his body absorbs for power. Think Superman fighting a Yellow Sun man.
I still don't get how in Exiles, Hyperion "snorted" Hyperion.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotI had forgotten about some of those but also do not forget that there is still a durability issue. Could she manage to break the bonds that hold Apoc's head together.
I've compiled scans to make one, just haven't gotten around to uploading them all.She can teleport parts of things.
Also KM just for future reference I don't think you should be able to use 616 Blink and Exiles Blink as interchangeable. They may have the same power but I can not use 616 Sabertoooth or Galactus feats for the other Exiles' versions of them.
The difference between 616 Blink and AoA Blink powers is that the latter was experimented on by Sinister/Dark Beast so her powers were controllable. 616 Blink couldn't control her powers so whenever she used them instead of teleporting things intact she sheared them apart - there's no reason why AoA Blink shouldn't be able to do the same, and has done.
Apocalypse is still made of atoms just like any other matter. If she can teleport Tanaraq, she can teleport Apocalypse. The only two instances I can think of where something wasn't teleported was an alternate Hulk, which was explained by some bizarre radiation effect, and King Hyperion who was fast enough to hypervibrate. As far as I'm aware Apocalypse can't duplicate either of those situations, nor would he have knowledge of them. She'd probably need suitable distraction from others to do so though.
Also NB, while she may use the shards as a focus for her abilities, she's shown multiple times to not actually need them to teleport things.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotThat may be the difference but for all intents and purposes 616 Blink and Exiles Blink are different people therefore you can not assume that Exiles can do what 616 can. They may have the same powerset but would it be like me trying to use 616 Sabertooth feats for Exiles Sabertooth or trying to use 616 Mimic feats for Exiles.
The difference between 616 Blink and AoA Blink is that the latter was experimented on by Sinister/Dark Beast so her powers were controllable. 616 Blink couldn't control her powers so whenever she used them instead of teleporting things intact she sheared them apart - there's no reason why AoA Blink shouldn't be able to do the same, and has done.Apocalypse is still made of atoms just like any other matter. If she can teleport Tanaraq, she can teleport Apocalypse. The only two instances I can think of where something wasn't teleported was an alternate Hulk, which was explained by some bizarre radiation effect, and King Hyperion who was fast enough to hypervibrate. As far as I'm aware Apocalypse can't duplicate either of those situations, nor would he have knowledge of them. She'd probably need suitable distraction from others to do so though.
Also NB, while she may use the shards as a focus for her abilities, she's shown multiple times to not actually need them to teleport things.
Just because they are the same person they still come from different realities and we can not assume one can do what the other can.
Still I have never seen Blink teleport the limbs off of someone who has a high degree of durability. Maybe it is just the fact her portals can not separate the bonds holding the atoms together for someone as tough as certain people. She even mentions all she can do with Hyperion is stalemate him.
And I know she doesn't need her Javlins to focus and teleport things I've seen her do it enough without them.
Delgado had superstrength and durability iirc. She closed a portal on him killing him.
She says she can match Hyperion for speed. His hypervibration prevented her teleportation, the teleportation shard didn't impact him, not his natural durability.
I don't know exactly from where the stronger interatomic bonds thing derives. In another thread someone said that Hulk could pass through an atomic sieve made by the Engineer, that slices through atomic bonds, unharmed because he's the Hulk. The strongest chemical bond is the carbon-carbon sp2 bond iirc, is it being proposed that for some reason Apocalypse or Hulk etc are entirely made of carbon and made of carbon-carbon sp2 bonds in a crystal structure? 😬
The shard comment was just a general info to everybody one.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotHow much though would it be in the same league as Apoc or even Colossus.
Delgado had superstrength and durability iirc. She closed a portal on him killing him.She says she can match Hyperion for speed. His hypervibration prevented her teleportation, the teleportation shard didn't impact him, not his natural durability.
I don't know exactly from where the stronger interatomic bonds thing derives. In another thread someone said that Hulk could pass through an atomic sieve made by the Engineer, that slices through atomic bonds, unharmed because he's the Hulk. The strongest chemical bond is the carbon-carbon sp2 bond iirc, is it being proposed that for some reason Apocalypse or Hulk etc is entirely made of carbon and made of carbon-carbon sp2 bonds in a crystal structure? 😬
The shard comment was just a general info to everybody one.
The problem with that though is if all heroes had the same bond strength then no one would have actual durability. The individual molecule maybe strong but we all know something only holds together if the bonds are strong enough. So we must assume heroes atomic bonds are a lot stronger than your typical Carbon based bonds simply on the fact of what they can take.
Originally posted by NewjakActually it's Earth-957 Blink. 313
Still using 616 Blink for shame on you 😠😛
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Originally posted by llagrok1a. She temporarily subverted his powers, but was corrupted by them. She, in his own words, "managed to detach from the corruption you engendered -- allowing me to manifest once again." After which he took her on as an apprentice.
1. Blink didn't beat the in-betweener2. Apocalypse wouldn't have any trouble dodging her shards
2. She doesn't need the shards to teleport things.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotStill not exiles Blink 313
Actually it's Earth-957 Blink. 313😛1a. She temporarily subverted his powers, but was corrupted by them. She, in his own words, "managed to detach from the corruption you engendered -- allowing me to manifest once again." After which he took her on as an apprentice.
1b. I wasn't actually using it as a feat, I just posted it for fun.2. She doesn't need the shards to teleport things.
And she may not need the shards to teleport but apparently she does need them to focus her powers on opponents in combat.
