Interesting Thought

Pretty much. If you minded your own business or proved to be a valuable asset, there was at least a 80% chance that Palpatine would leave you the hell alone. But, yes, the Vong were scared shitless of the Empire (at its height).

I'm impressed that at certain points, Star Wars unintentionally brings up ethical, moral, and logical questions.

the only thing the rebellion did that i think was dumb was destroy every super weapon they found. Luke even said he whished they hadn't destroyed the galaxy gun cause it would be a great weapon to use for their advantage.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ok so some of you are saying they should have done what they did and build up a military themselves correct? What guarantee is there that they would do it to the extent the Empire did it, in the next 30 years. There simply is not enough man power in the Rebellion to come close to what the Empire did, nor is there a genius on the level of Palpatine to orchestrate it all. You already had a superior military in tact, so it's either living under a dictatorship until the Vong eventually did attack or didn't, or taking your chances with democracy and losing what, like 80% of the galaxy's population?

There is no way that in 30 years the rebellion could build up a military to the extent of the empire. The empire has access to way more materials,resources and man power. Plus they would most likely have most of their superweapons around. Plus Thrawn would not be dead so he will have many more ships under his control which is extremely bad for the vong and rebellion. Vader would still be alive (since Luke would be training and the rebellion would not have done anything but build up their force or take part in a few battles so the battle of endor would most likely not have occurred) and loyal to the emperor. Finally Sidious would still be alive whether it is in a clone body or his original. This Sidious could possibly be equal to the DE Sidious which is very bad thing for the vong and Luke. I would even think it is possible for Sidious to make some type of treaty or pact with the Vong to join the empire. Which definitely means the rebellion is screwed.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
There is no way that in 30 years the rebellion could build up a military to the extent of the empire. The empire has access to way more materials,resources and man power. Plus they would most likely have most of their superweapons around. Plus Thrawn would not be dead so he will have many more ships under his control which is extremely bad for the vong and rebellion. Vader would still be alive (since Luke would be training and the rebellion would not have done anything but build up their force or take part in a few battles so the battle of endor would most likely not have occurred) and loyal to the emperor. Finally Sidious would still be alive whether it is in a clone body or his original. This Sidious could possibly be equal to the DE Sidious which is very bad thing for the vong and Luke. I would even think it is possible for Sidious to make some type of treaty or pact with the Vong to join the empire. Which definitely means the rebellion is screwed.

I HIGHLY doubt Sidious would make a treaty with the Vong. Not only are they on another level of the force, which would scare the shit out of Sidious, but they also pose a major threat because they want to command and conquer, which is what Sidious does. That conflict of interest alone is enough to disprove that theory. Furthermore, Sidious created this empire with a dream of having a all human league in terms of high ranking officials. Why in the WORLD would he sign a treaty with extra galactic aliens? I suppose you could use the logic that the Vong and Sidious have the same hatred for the Jedi, but Sidious is just as much of a force user as the Jedi, so he would be an enemy as well.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I HIGHLY doubt Sidious would make a treaty with the Vong. Not only are they on another level of the force, which would scare the shit out of Sidious, but they also pose a major threat because they want to command and conquer, which is what Sidious does. That conflict of interest alone is enough to disprove that theory. Furthermore, Sidious created this empire with a dream of having a all human league in terms of high ranking officials. Why in the WORLD would he sign a treaty with extra galactic aliens? I suppose you could use the logic that the Vong and Sidious have the same hatred for the Jedi, but Sidious is just as much of a force user as the Jedi, so he would be an enemy as well.

I had a thought that if Sidious would send Thrawn at the head of massive fleet before they invaded, then the empire could get a big victory and make the vong somewhat like military slaves or something so he could he advance the galactic empire to other galaxies. But you do have a point with vong hating force users. But Palpetine kept his sith identity hidden from the galaxy for decades and then even as the supreme chancellor he kept it hidden from the jedi right under their noses until it was time for the sith to come out of hiding. I'm not saying it will happen it probably wont but it given his history it wouldn't surprise me if he could. But it wont most likely happen but if it could then rebellion is definitely screwed.

Yes, Palpatine could have sent a force out with thrawn, but the Vong had HUGE numbers... So Palpatine would have to do more than send one force out, he'd have to commit the majority of his empire to destroy the Vong. THEN and only then would the victory be quick and destructive.

That was was trying to get at but I guess I didn't explain it good. I would have Thrawn as the leader of the fleets that will most likely lead to a victory in the war. And I would probably say that a war between the empire and the vong would end faster than the war between the republic and the vong did.

Nom Anor told the Supreme Overlord point-blank that the Empire at it's height would easily curbstomp the Vong in their first engagement. How much of the Starfleet Palpatine would have to commit remains a mystery.

I think Palaptine may have actually ended up doing more damage than the Vong did. I mean, we need to remember, Endor was a "Do or Die" thing for the Rebels. If they hadn't seceded, the Empire would have crushed the Rebels, leaving the Imperials completely unchallenged. Then Sidious would wreck the majority of aliens, and live out his dream as an immortal ruler of the Empire for the next ten thousand years.

Also, revealing the information (in a non-crazy way) would probably only make the people rally around Palapatine to protect them. Even the oppressed races maybe. I mean, a wookiee would rather live as a slave and maybe have the chance to escape over seeing his entire race demolished (save for Hanharr).

I don't think Palpatine would have ever been respnsible for 365 trillion deaths.

i agree but then again i disagree because unless Lucas went back and changed the script we wont find

You guys are awesome. I love just reading what you guys post about your speculations.

Is 365 trillion 80% of the galaxies inhabitants? I thought that it was close to 50%? I could be mistaken. I would suspect Sidious of only crushing rebels of his empire had the rebels not succeeded. Despite his negatives, he seemed to tolerate if not like his supporters. Then again, he could have turned on the people and committed a religious wipe i.e. galactic genocide.

Also, are Sidious' clones filled with his spirit? (that sounds funny but spirits run around all the time on both the dark and light side.)

If I recal, the galaxy has 400 trillion inhabitants, so yes its very damn close.

Um... I don't know if the galaxy lost 80% of its population. That number would be huge - the death toll is staggering - and I haven't heard about that at all. If it were that large, you'd think it'd be a covered issue.

no doubt 365 trillion is one major assload of a number...

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/astro.html

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/astro.html

Lmao, I am not reading that whole thing. It says there's 100 quadrillion beings.

that's a lot of beings, they give sources though..

Originally posted by Gideon
Lmao, I am not reading that whole thing. It says there's 100 quadrillion beings.

How did you come up with 100 quadrillion or 10^17?

I could not directly derive that number based on the information provided.