Explanation...

I want to know if someone has an explanation for my question: "why the hell did Beckett not open fire?"

After rewatching that seen, there is no reason for Beckett not giving the order to fire on the Pearl. Yes, I understand that the Dutchman is invincible, but the Pearl isn't.

Sorry, Depp fans, but Beckett's ship >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jack's ship (on Jack's best day). Beckett had him outgunned. Why the hell did he not fire?

Don't know for sure. I think he basically went into shock from being in total control of the situation to having like...no control. He seemed to have disassociated himself from the situation almost as soon as he realized that the Dutchman was turning against him.

Basically, he froze up and zoned out. He was having the "Evil Bad Guy Realizes He's Screwed" moment and it just continues. He can't change it, so he just kind of goes with it.

Feel bad for all the men serving under him though. Ah well, at least Will is responsible and will get them all sorted. Can you imagine Will fetching Beckett's soul? I wonder how that conversation went...

hmm.. I could imagine quite a lot Surreal.

I think Beckett was shocked as the cold water of defeat was poured on him. (wow. artsy....)

He just realized that his almost perfect plan was cut off and failed, so he just 'zoned out' as surreal said. He was already screwed, and the shock... the shock made him not do anything and froze his mind into the moment where he thought everything was going well. then BAM! something wrong happens.

Disbelief.

Felt bad for him.

about the pearl and becketts ship, its true. beckett's ship (forgot the name) is better when it comes to guns and cannons, but the pearl is faster. (i think)

The endeavor--and she was tons of guns--Beckett, bully, lost it over the power of the FD. His first mate needed to take charge--British military at that time was too rigid on a good day. All he could see was dead man sailing. Besides, Captain Jack needed a sail by that didn't involve holes in his ship

I agree with the shock thing but they would've lost anyways. Two ships to one. Not good odds. even though The endeavor could beat the pearl but not the pearl and the dutchman together.

And the other thing is by the time he would've ordered his men to fire. Both Jack and Will would've opened fire already. They were prepared to fire and Becket was expecting the dutchman to take lead so...

But the main thing was still him thinking "Boy i guess I won't be eating steak and wine tonight huh?"

Originally posted by tee_pirategirl

But the main thing was still him thinking "Boy i guess I won't be eating steak and wine tonight huh?"

😂

Yes, assuming the Dutchman truly is invincible, then Beckett would have lost the fight anyways. But I find it odd that Beckett - a man who admittedly wanted nothing other than Jack's corpse - did not open fire, even in the face of defeat. He strikes me as the type of person who, even in a losing situation, would try to do as much damage as possible.

That said the Pearl realistically didn't stand a chance. Jack couldn't slug it out with Beckett on his best day, let alone after the fight in which the Pearl sustained massive damages. Beckett had Jack outgunned by a massive degree.

Beckett also had 300 ships present at that fight. The fact that he alone decided to float out there to sink to the Pearl - and the reason he lost - to me is an example of the poorer aspects of the writing. A more logical explanation could have been afforded.

I can SORTA handle him going alone to blow the pearl up thing. He didn't think he would be alone. He had the Dutchman.

What baffles me more is...why didn't those 300 ships attack the pirates after Becket's sunk? Did they have to have someone to command them? There it was! A fleet of pirates! What were they waiting for?

Eh. Well, I suppose to them:

a.) Their supreme commander was just (presumably) killed.
b.) The fleet's former flagship turned against them (remember the assumed invincibility).
c.) Their supreme commander's personal vessel (a ship-of-the-line) was just curbstomped.
b.) The movie had to end with a Pirate victory. The vast disparity between the pirate ships and Beckett's fleet is immense. Beckett's army was realistically far stronger.

It was the olden times and we don't gang on people--you kick my big boy's behind and ee-yah (dust hands) we are done. Not poor writing--different mind set. Beckett be one of those cowardly dogs--lawyer mentality, never ask a question you don't know the answer to--never start a fight unless you think you can call down the FD

Originally posted by texgodiva2s
It was the olden times and we don't gang on people--you kick my big boy's behind and ee-yah (dust hands) we are done. Not poor writing--different mind set. Beckett be one of those cowardly dogs--lawyer mentality, never ask a question you don't know the answer to--never start a fight unless you think you can call down the FD

Beckett = coward?

The man's got more balls than Jack (by far), Will, Davy, Elizabeth, and Barbossa.

Originally posted by Gideon
Beckett = coward?

The man's got more balls than Jack (by far), Will, Davy, Elizabeth, and Barbossa.

Haha But that's only when he thinks he's in control. When you've got a man on your right that could and would kill an elephant and a fleet of ships that could blast the enemy to smithereens you can get a little cocky I think..

Originally posted by IheartPocky
Haha But that's only when he thinks he's in control. When you've got a man on your right that could and would kill an elephant and a fleet of ships that could blast the enemy to smithereens you can get a little cocky I think..

Not really.

1.) He didn't show any fear when Elizabeth [whom he considered to be unstable] had him at gunpoint.
2.) He didn't show any fear of Jones.
3.) He didn't show any fear of Jack [Jack seemed scared of him, actually].
4.) He didn't show any fear of Will [who is equally unstable and could have held Beckett hostage].
5.) He didn't show any fear of being alone on a sandbar with Will, Jones, Elizabeth, Barbossa, and Sparrow - all five of which knowingly despise him.
6.) He didn't show any fear about going toe-to-toe with the Pearl.

Jack is as witty as Beckett (and just as active of a manipulator) and yet he shows fear ALL the time

That was the crappiest thing I ever posted, but I have ten MSN chats going on at the same time. Forgive me. 🙁

LOL okay

Maybe he doesn't care about living? 😄

It depends. Jack managed to one-up Beckett in At World's End (I suppose. He helped kill him after all). Jack is also abnormally clever and witty, yet he is almost always never in control of the situation like Beckett is.

I just have to post this...

My friends and I were all yelling DIE!! at Beckett, until someone screamed at us to shut it, and we were laughing so hard when Beckett's ship was blowing up and he was taking a nice stroll around his ship. I'm so glad he died!!!

That's the mark of a sadist, lol.

That's good. That means Tom Hollander and Beckett did their jobs. Villains are the guys you're supposed to hate. I loved Barbossa, which meant he was an outstanding character, but not a great villain.

Hm. I love Beckett. lol He had a weirdness to him that i found hilarious..

Brethern, you've brought up some interesting notions--Beckett is not a well person. He is so civilized that he thinks money "good business" will prevail. With Jack, he's afraid becos he's been imprisoned, branded, marooned, mutinied against, shanghaied, almost danced with Jack Ketch, cracked Jenny's teacup, killed someone close to him, sent to Davy Jones' locker, dealt with sea monsters and that which vexes all men, you'd have to be dead not to be afraid. Beckett believes with Jack, will, Elizabeth--everyone just what he says about the governor, there is a price at which all men will sell what they value most.