Originally posted by FearOfBloodIndeed you are. You guys know their was a reason for Thor not being around for WWh we all know he would have beat Hulk to a pulp and Kurse being stronger than Thor would do it faster get over the whole Hulk being the strongest because strength doesn't mean power. Yeah The Green guy will never be the most powerful or second or 34th for that matter the same goes for Strom and Iceman 😉
Pretty pathetic.
Originally posted by iceman24567
[B]Indeed you are. You guys know their was a reason for Thor not being around for WWh we all know he would have beat Hulk to a pulp and
Keep dreaming.
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=782
MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?
GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
FACTS > haters opinions.
Originally posted by FearOfBloodLike i said strength doesn't equal power so Thor stomps Hulk. The universe > Fanboys opinions.
Keep dreaming.http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=782
MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?
GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
FACTS > haters opinions.
Originally posted by llagrok
Kurse isn't that limited, and his limit is far above the current Hulk's strength level. For some reason you think the Hulk will get a chance to get his strength up above Kurse's limit. It's not like a switch, it takes a lot of time.Like I said, I don't want you in this thread because you're so biased. I've never seen you agree that the Hulk would lose 1/10.
often wondered about that - does it take a lot of time. When Molecule man dropped a mountain range on him how much time did he get to adrenalyse?? 30 seconds?? This wasn't vene savage hulk but banner hulk that ws starting to lose it.
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Originally posted by severance
often wondered about that - does it take a lot of time. When Molecule man dropped a mountain range on him how much time did he get to adrenalyse?? 30 seconds?? This wasn't vene savage hulk but banner hulk that ws starting to lose it.thumbsup
The Hulk support a small part of the mountain, not the entire thing. And when fighting people physically, it takes quite some time for him to build up enough strength overcome them. Doc Samson stalemated him for 6 hours in fact.
Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Keep dreaming.http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/details.php?id=782
MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?
GP: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
FACTS > haters opinions.
Facts > Fanboy's interpretation
Originally posted by llagrok
The Hulk support a small part of the mountain, not the entire thing. And when fighting people physically, it takes quite some time for him to build up enough strength overcome them. Doc Samson stalemated him for 6 hours in fact.Facts > Fanboy's interpretation
Never believed the hulk did lift all 150 billion tons but he was quite deep inside the mountain and he was supporting enough volume for about ten other heroes fit under it. I would estimate 100,000 tons. Still quite a feat and this is from banner hulk who couldn't rage as much as savage. Unless you think 100,000 tons is banner hulks base strength.
He may take a time to build up strength against samson (maybe he doesn't really see him as a threat more of an irritant - i duuno) Point is you cannot categorucally say it always takes time for hulk to adrenalyse when sometimes it seems to be instantaneous.
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Originally posted by severance
Never believed the hulk did lift all 150 billion tons but he was quite deep inside the mountain and he was supporting enough volume for about ten other heroes fit under it. I would estimate 100,000 tons. Still quite a feat and this is from banner hulk who couldn't rage as much as savage. Unless you think 100,000 tons is banner hulks base strength.He may take a time to build up strength against samson (maybe he doesn't really see him as a threat more of an irritant - i duuno) Point is you cannot categorucally say it always takes time for hulk to adrenalyse when sometimes it seems to be instantaneous.
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It was shown again during the WWH saga, the Hulk did indeed hold up 150 billion tons on-panel.
Originally posted by Kutulu
It was shown again during the WWH saga, the Hulk did indeed hold up 150 billion tons on-panel.
listen i am a big hulk fan but i don't think hulk had the whole mountain teetering on his shoulders. How did he balance it? Even if he held up a million tons worth still a good feat
Not to say Hulk couldn't manage 150 billion tons
Originally posted by janus77
it's all a bit pedantic, really.
I don't seriously believe anyone would argue against Hulk being well capable of lifting feats far beyond that weight.indeed, the strength feats during Planet Hulk eclipse that anyway. from the mountain he smashed up to the tectonic plates, all whilst underpowered.
Do you understand that underpowered is a relative term? and that for someone whose power is to grow exponentially in strength and durability, starting off at 40 tons lower than he normally would, it's not really that big of a difference?
Originally posted by llagrok
Do you understand that underpowered is a relative term? and that for someone whose power is to grow exponentially in strength and durability, starting off at 40 tons lower than he normally would, it's not really that big of a difference?
no doubt Hulk's strength amped, obviously it did, but he was not his usual impervious self during Planet Hulk.
Originally posted by janus77
he wasn't just weaker initially, he was somehow underpowered (as a result of the unusual black hole) so that he could be affected by all sorts of projectiles and the rough terrain of Sakaar. it's the same way Surfer was affected to the point of being made unconscious and unable to access the PC. Sakaar did something to both of them, to seriously reduce their capacities. Just that Hulk's powersource is extra-dimensional and he is the nexus of it so no "cutting off" unlike Surfer and the Power Cosmic.no doubt Hulk's strength amped, obviously it did, but he was not his usual impervious self during Planet Hulk.
Yes, his skin could be pierced more easily. Does this hinder his ability to increase his durability and strength? Nope.
Originally posted by llagrok
Yes, his skin could be pierced more easily. Does this hinder his ability to increase his durability and strength? Nope.
exactly you're speculating. what we know for certain is that he was underpowered, how that affects things, you can only imagine.
anyway, all that just highlights that he is way more than powerful enough to hold up that mountain range, if he wanted to.
Originally posted by janus77
and you know this how?exactly you're speculating. what we know for certain is that he was underpowered, how that affects things, you can only imagine.
I can say the same to you.....
But tell me this, did his "depowering" affect his ability to increase his strength and stamina?
it may have, who knows. what we know - on-panel - is that he was underpowered, note the adverb in italics. it does not mean the same thing as "depowered" (which is a pretty silly thing to confuse it with).
it's all about degrees, Hulk was somehow underpowered and yet still produced feats that are way above anything the mountain bracing/lifting represents.
since his durability and other attributes are based upon his strength level, it could simply be the case that he was weaker than normal, strengthwise. since we have never seen any limit to his strength we cannot gage these things, what we can state is what is depicted. hence my carefully chosen words.