Originally posted by UniOmni
To Jelly,Would you say Superman could lose here then?
Cuz it's basically the same situation, in a hth fight at least.
To Digi,
Nothing Majestic has consistently shown would support the notion that he's even on par with Diana for skill, let alone trumping her in that.
Supes vs. Majestic in H2H is hard to call. They are very evenly matched.
And yes, Majestic is close to Diana in skill. He was a warlord for centuries, he's got the experience.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Experience doesn't equal skill.He's not shown the skill to say he's on par with Diana.
It's like the Thor = Diana in skill thing, when it's not true.
He might have skill, but she consistently uses hers.
You're missing the point though. Majestic is > Diana in strength and probably durability too (I only say probably because there's those that might dispute it. But it's not a question in my mind). Hell, he's even shown to be faster in terms of reactions.
So you're telling me that her H2H skill is so much greater than Majestros', who is far from a slow-ish brute that Thor sometimes is in a brawl, that her skill overcomes his advantages in those areas??
Nuh-uh.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
He has speed feats and reaction feats that put him at Flash level. He's also a Kherubim warrior-noble, a race of people at LEAST as skilled and warlike as the Amazons. Anyone who thinks he's not >> Diana in pretty much every way (sans her weapons) is wrong.
This is true.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
He has speed feats and reaction feats that put him at Flash level.
So does Wonder Woman.
And?
He's also a Kherubim warrior-noble, a race of people at LEAST as skilled and warlike as the Amazons.
Anyone who thinks he's not >> Diana in pretty much every way (sans her weapons) is wrong.
Sicne you obviously aren't that knpowlsgeable about Majestic, you're not in anyn position to claim what anyone is wrong about.
Wonder Woman is more skilled, the superior tactician, can can counter his energy attacks with her bracelets.
This is a stalemate, and Majestic doesn't have the feats to justify anything more than a slight majority.
Originally posted by panthergod
So does Wonder Woman.
False. Has she flown 100's of miles, studied obscure astrophysics and constructed a matter manipulator gun, and flown back...In seconds?! No.
Originally posted by panthergod
And?they are inferior to Amazon's, actually.
Which is a value judgement based on absolutely no proof. Care to support your argument somehow? Nah, didn't think so.
Originally posted by panthergod
Sicne you obviously aren't that knpowlsgeable about Majestic, you're not in anyn position to claim what anyone is wrong about.Wonder Woman is more skilled, the superior tactician, can can counter his energy attacks with her bracelets.
This is a stalemate, and Majestic doesn't have the feats to justify anything more than a slight majority.
Has Diana ever moved planets? Not the "I'm pulling the moon with Kal and J'onn doing most of the work". Actually moving planets. Majestic has.
And I didn't even mention energy attacks. Majestros has speed, strength, and probably durability on his side. Diana might have fighting skill. Either way, she loses.
...I'm not sure if you're just being beligerent for the sake of arguing and trying to get me to be angry (baiting) or if you're really this delusioned about both characters (fanboy-ism). Either way, D- on the debating.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
False. Has she flown 100's of miles, studied obscure astrophysics and constructed a matter manipulator gun, and flown back...In seconds?! No.
Cool, Diana has deflected projectiles fast enough to corss the universe in seconds the same way she does bullets.
Majestic is faster, but it's not like he ever uses his full speed in combat or anything. She's fast enough to hang, and is much more skilled.
Which is a value judgement based on absolutely no proof. Care to support your argument somehow? Nah, didn't think so.
Amazons have always been uber skill wise.
Majestic wasn't stronger, once again, you're brinign up feats that change nothing about the match up at hand.
Has Diana ever moved planets? Not the "I'm pulling the moon with Kal and J'onn doing most of the work". Actually moving planets. Majestic has.
Yes, Majestic is stronger, no he's not so strong that she can't defeat him anyway.
For one she's defeated pre-Zero Hour planet moving Daxamites in HTH combat.
And I didn't even mention energy attacks. Majestros has speed, strength, and probably durability on his side. Diana might have fighting skill. Either way, she loses.
But you're right, this is a HTH fight.
She's MUCH more skilled, and intellgent in hth combat tactics.
...I'm not sure if you're just being beligerent for the sake of arguing and trying to get me to be angry (baiting) or if you're really this delusioned about both characters (fanboy-ism). Either way, D- on the debating.
Originally posted by panthergod
Cool, Diana has deflected projectiles fast enough to corss the universe in seconds the same way she does bullets.Majestic is faster, but it's not like he ever uses his full speed in combat or anything. She's fast enough to hang, and is much more skilled.
Hypollyta, who is class 15, has defeated Heracles and one shot bloodied Orion, both Class 100 beings.
Amazons have always been uber skill wise.
Majestic wasn't stronger, once again, you're brinign up feats that change nothing about the match up at hand.
Yes, Majestic is stronger, no he's not so strong that she can't defeat him anyway.
For one she's defeated pre-Zero Hour planet moving Daxamites in HTH combat.
Energy attacks do nothing but give Diana something to defelct right back at Majestic, really.
But you're right, this is a HTH fight.
She's MUCH more skilled, and intellgent in hth combat tactics.
Actually it comes from me being extremely knwledgeable about both characters and the fact that Majestic is one of the msot overrated characters ever. He's not on par with the Elite top tier peole like Thor, Hal Jordan, Orion, Surfer, Gladiator and Superman when it comes to combat formidabililty. He's in the next bracket down along with Diana.
I'm really getting sick of the garbage you spew. 😒
"Hypollyta, who is class 15, has defeated Heracles and one shot bloodied Orion, both Class 100 beings."
Ok, it may not be obvious to you. but Orion would wipe the floor with Wonder Woman in a fight. Even H2H, Orion would dominate. And I'd say Majestic is more skilled than Orion on the face of it.
"Majestic is faster, but it's not like he ever uses his full speed in combat or anything. She's fast enough to hang, and is much more skilled."
Majestros has fought Eradicator, Superman, Captain Atom and many more high speed people of the Wildstorm universe. He's got the speed edge. And he does use his speed in combat.
"Actually it comes from me being extremely knwledgeable about both characters and the fact that Majestic is one of the msot overrated characters ever. He's not on par with the Elite top tier peole like Thor, Hal Jordan, Orion, Surfer, Gladiator and Superman when it comes to combat formidabililty. He's in the next bracket down along with Diana."
Wait wait. You're putting Gladiator on the same tier as those guys? 👇 Majestic has done consistently well against top tiers and is shown as Superman level in his fights. He may not have the track record compared to guys like Superman or Thor or Orion, but what he's got definitely puts him at that level.
Anyone that you just named, including Majestros, would take Gladiator for a majority. Note: I am not counting Diana on that list, because she needs her basic equipment to beat Gladiator.
Digi: GO DIGI! 😄 clap
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm really getting sick of the garbage you spew. 😒"Hypollyta, who is class 15, has defeated Heracles and one shot bloodied Orion, both Class 100 beings."
Ok, it may not be obvious to you. but Orion would wipe the floor with Wonder Woman in a fight. Even H2H, Orion would dominate. And I'd say Majestic is more skilled than Orion on the face of it.
"Majestic is faster, but it's not like he ever uses his full speed in combat or anything. She's fast enough to hang, and is much more skilled."
Majestros has fought Eradicator, Superman, Captain Atom and many more high speed people of the Wildstorm universe. He's got the speed edge. And he does use his speed in combat.
"Actually it comes from me being extremely knwledgeable about both characters and the fact that Majestic is one of the msot overrated characters ever. He's not on par with the Elite top tier peole like Thor, Hal Jordan, Orion, Surfer, Gladiator and Superman when it comes to combat formidabililty. He's in the next bracket down along with Diana."
Wait wait. You're putting Gladiator on the same tier as those guys? 👇 Majestic has done consistently well against top tiers and is shown as Superman level in his fights. He may not have the track record compared to guys like Superman or Thor or Orion, but what he's got definitely puts him at that level.
Anyone that you just named, including Majestros, would take Gladiator for a majority. Note: I am not counting Diana on that list, because she needs her basic equipment to beat Gladiator.
Digi: GO DIGI! 😄 clap
What has Majestic done that would suggest he's more skilled than Orion?
And when he fought all these people who have high speed, did they use it in any intelligent way? No.
Do i agree with Jelly saying that Majestic isn't an elite top tier?
Nope, cuz he's the big dog of his universe, so by default he's elite top tier.
All top tiers aren't equal tho.
Gladiator wouldn't get stomped by Majestic, and it'd probably be a hella nice fight, with the win going to whoever wants it more.
And Hippolyta bloodying Orions nose is way worse than Gladiator being slowed down by Colosuss.
Gladiator was never actually hurt by Piotr.
Low showings work like that, ehh?
Originally posted by UniOmni
What has Majestic done that would suggest he's more skilled than Orion?And when he fought all these people who have high speed, did they use it in any intelligent way? No.
Do i agree with Jelly saying that Majestic isn't an elite top tier?
Nope, cuz he's the big dog of his universe, so by default he's elite top tier.
All top tiers aren't equal tho.
Gladiator wouldn't get stomped by Majestic, and it'd probably be a hella nice fight, with the win going to whoever wants it more.
And Hippolyta bloodying Orions nose is way worse than Gladiator being slowed down by Colosuss.
Gladiator was never actually hurt by Piotr.
Low showings work like that, ehh?
Orion wasn't hurt by Hippolyta. He actually kinda liked it when she punched him.
And she's far above class 15 btw.