Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why do you have Galactus with the Un under thanos with the Ig when clearly Galactus on his own could consume a multiverse if left unchecked like in the black celestial arc, adding in the Un which can erase and recreate a mulitverse kinda is a bigger feat than anything I've ever seen the Ig do. Especially in Thanos's hands.
😕 Woah i have been gone to long from here, what now Galactus is now Multiversal.
I dont think we should take that arc as 100% fact.
Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*I take it you've never actually read that arc either, ey?
Because during the "Black Celestial arc", the only thing we know for sure that Galactus was going to consume, was a singular Universe. 😉
Anyone who says differently, is spewing nothing but their own opinion, [as Galactus never devoured anything close to a Multiverse]. 🙂
Ah, Galan. Excellent. 😄 you got my pm. So, as the resident expert on Extant and the 'Gog, where does he stop, and who does he beat?
Originally posted by Utrigita
Speculation is allowed on this forum, for that is all we do gauge one being power vs another and then speculate what would happen.On Panel he was eating a universe.
Yes a lot of thing would happen if left unchecked, Jasper would have warped the omniverse, Dark Phoenix would have destroyed and so on and on, so whats your point?
Why are we even debating Galactus this is about cosmic extants gauntlet, but instead off looking at the gauntlet which is a little messed up I will say who I think can win,
LT, Thanos W/IG, and possible maelstrom
We look at actual on panel feats and illustrated character power sets and from their proven capabilities, post a hypothetical confrontation where we speculate how we think characters would fare based on said proven capabilities and nothing else, otherwise the argument is baseless.
If a character has not shown themselves capable of something on panel, if they've shown nowhere near a certain level of prowess you cannot state that they are capable of doing so and expect to get away with that in debate.
If Phoenix in other appearances hadnt healed the M'kraan crystal, amputated the future and telekinetically manipulated the atoms of a a reality then i would not and could not credibly come in here and argue that she's certified universe destroyer level regardless of what a few characters on panel merely said about her capacity.
On top of that the Time Bubble story arc where Galactus raged out of control and was eating everything around him never occurred in 616 and it never featured 616 Galactus therefore using said arc as a representation of what 616 Galactus is capable of is illogical. Not only could that Galactus have had a different power level to our Galactus, but on top of that the Galactus in that story arc could only do what he did after his makeup was altered by the Dreaming Celestial. It wasnt a feat achievable as far as we know by that universes Galactus as standard, so once again referencing that event to speak for 616 Galactus is illogical.
Originally posted by King Kandy
IG>UN. This is shown on Panel. What are you arguing about?
I'm not convinced. Greater in terms of its versatility most definitely as the UN's a bit of a one trick pony, however since when does re-directing the path of an energy blast automatically equate to one power being more potent than another?
I'm not saying the Ig's NOT more powerful, i'm just saying i dont personally think that incident is evidence of it.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well all I'm saying is that in a fight the IG beats the UN. That's a fact.
Oh definitely, its so much more versatile. However i'm not convinced the IG in one burst of power can cause more destruction than the UN can. But due to the limited versatility of the UN, an IG user would always be able to defeat a UN user.
Re: Cosmic Extant runs the gauntlet
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. Infinity Man
2. Depowered Tyrant
3. Darkseid&Highfather
4. Galactus w/e UN
5. In-betweener
6. Eternity
7. Thanos w/e IG
8. Time Trapper
9. Mad Jim Jaspers or Mad Jim Jaspers merged with Fury
10. Imperiex Prime
11. Maelstrom as Anomaly
12. Phoenix Force
13. LT
Marvel ... IMO.
1. Depowered Tyrant (never destroyed a Universe, can't destroy a Universe)
2. In-betweener (never destroyed a Universe, can't destroy a Universe)
3. Maelstrom as Anomaly with Eon Consciousness (needed a Black Hole to destroy a Universe)
4. Eternity Aspect, (which is One Universe/Reality)
5. Phoenix Force (Universal destroyer)
6. Eternity (All, which is the Multiverse)
7. Galactus w/UN (Multiversal destroyer)
8. Thanos IG (too many reasons)
8. Jim Jaspers (not even Matrix empowered Merlyn could stop him)
9. Eighth place is a Tie, imo, I just don't know who would take that.
10. LT (LT)
btw, I'm not debating this, it's just IMO. 🙂
Originally posted by Endless Mike
But Maelstrom as the Anomaly was an even match for Thanos with the IG
Says who?
Maelstrom himself admitted Thanos was more powerful than him:
There's also a rumor going around that Maelstrom was stalemating Thanos, but there's no conclusive proof that Thanos had the IG in that battle, in fact, Thanos is not wearing an IG on panel.
Quasar was crossing Timelines when he saw that, Quasar even saw Korvac before he nullified Eternity back in 1982, so, I'm not sure he saw Thanos w/IG, it could have been Thanos' acquisition of another power source.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I'm not convinced. Greater in terms of its versatility most definitely as the UN's a bit of a one trick pony, however since when does re-directing the path of an energy blast automatically equate to one power being more potent than another?I'm not saying the Ig's NOT more powerful, i'm just saying i dont personally think that incident is evidence of it.
Iv'e been saying this for ever. Hell Firestorm redirected the Omega Force. Does it now mean that Firestorm is more powerful than the Omega Force?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Iv'e been saying this for ever.
And it's still wrong. 😬
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hell Firestorm redirected the Omega Force. Does it now mean that Firestorm is more powerful than the Omega Force?
If Firestorm can completely control the Omega Force's direction and action,
then yes, he is more powerful than the Omega Force.
But if all Firestorm did was "re-direct" the line of trajectory with a block, or deflection object,
then no, it's not the same thing.
WW may be able to deflect the Omega Effect,
but can WW command the Omega Effect to go left or right or do little circles in the air? No.
An Incomplete IG controlled the UN's energies on that level.
The UN was not deflected or blocked or "re-directed,
the UN's energies were controlled to the whim of the Incomplete IG's wielder.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And it's still wrong. 😬If Firestorm can completely control the Omega Force's direction and action,
then yes, he is more powerful than the Omega Force.But if all Firestorm did was "re-direct" the line of trajectory with a block, or deflection object,
then no, it's not the same thing.WW may be able to deflect the Omega Effect,
but can WW command the Omega Effect to go left or right or do little circles in the air? No.An Incomplete IG controlled the UN's energies on that level.
The UN was not deflected or blocked or "re-directed,
the UN's energies were controlled to the whim of the Incomplete IG's wielder.
No it didn't. we have no idea what he did. All he said was he turned the energies back on the user.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No it didn't.
we have no idea what he did.
All he said was he turned the energies back on the user.
YOU may force yourself to have no idea,
but I KNOW what happened On Panel:
Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone:
Quasar was actually able to set it off:
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control.
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
Magus exercized a single Thought,
and Magus with an Incomplete IG owned the Ultimate Nullifier with a Single thought.
Imagine what a Complete IG is capable of. runforhills
Also,
4 Gems created several Realities and threatened to destroy ALL the Realities
during the Nemesis affair.
