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Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182It wasnt an "insta kill" in a sense that its like emrald lightning. From what i saw it doesnt kill you the moment it touches you unlike lukes lightning and that technique is a mere force drain at a very high intensity. A powerful force user should resist it especially if someone has skywalker blood since they have very strong connections to the force.
thats what those three jedi masters thought when she just insta-killed them
Anyways if caedus is going to lose i doubt it be due to the force drain
Theoretically, Jacen has too strong of a mind and force defense to fall to the force drain. With that said, he's never seen a force drain in his life, nor does he really HAVE a defense for it. However, Traya killed 3 of the top masters of that era instantly, and her force knowledge and abilities are vast. Jacen's knowledge is broader but in terms of offensive techniques, I don't think he has much of a chance against Traya. Nor does he rival Luke.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Theoretically, Jacen has too strong of a mind and force defense to fall to the force drain. With that said, he's never seen a force drain in his life, nor does he really HAVE a defense for it. However, Traya killed 3 of the top masters of that era instantly, and her force knowledge and abilities are vast. Jacen's knowledge is broader but in terms of offensive techniques, I don't think he has much of a chance against Traya. Nor does he rival Luke.
i agree.
but i have to say the jacen is easily manipulated lumiya did it to him throughout the LotF books and i have to say that Traya is far more manipulative than Lumiya and her knowledge of the sith is far greater than lumiyas and jacens combined. i believe she'd be able to manipulate him with minimal difficulty
Originally posted by kamhal
lol, that's why he had a hell of a time to kill mara and that's why he almost pisses his pants when someone talks about boba fett...
I lol'd. In my most passionate anti-Jacen moments, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. But it is also true that one must take a look at the big picture.
Mara Jade does not likely possess Traya's formidable strength in the Force (though, rest assured, she is no slouch herself), but she is an accomplished and highly experienced Jedi Knight and -- even more importantly, in the case of her combat with Jacen Solo -- she is a former Emperor's Hand, as is Lumiya, Jacen's own (now former) master. It wouldn't be a stretch to assume that the Emperor's Hands are perhaps the finest league of assassins in the entire Star Wars mythos, better than the Nohgri. That is what she used to defeat Jacen; the omniscient narrator made it rather clear that her Force powers didn't stack up at all compared to his. His knowledge of the Force and mastery over it far outstripped her own, and this is undeniable. She defeated him through vastly superior combat training and combat experience. Though Jacen is a clever Jedi, the Emperor's Hands -- again, Lumiya is an example of this -- are much more cleverer than the average Jedi. She fought smarter and more resourcefully.
Traya is a ruthlessly manipulative and clever woman, but I would hesitate to say that she is a supremely intelligent fighter. High intelligence doesn't equate to high combat intelligence. But I can't say who'd win.
As for Boba Fett, well, who wouldn't piss their pants at the mention of Boba Fett? Seriously. The bounty hunter is legendary at that point. He's harder to kill than any Sith Lord we've seen -- and we've seen ones who can clone themselves and anchor their souls to temples and artifacts -- and he isn't Force-sensitive. He has a small, but highly trained army of Mandalorians that kicked Imperial and Yuuzhan Vong ass. I'd guess that it'd take dozens of GAG soldiers to equal one Mandalorian. Combine this with Fett's peerless determination, efficiency, and ruthlessness -- especially during Jacen's unstable rise to power -- Fett would have been a potentially lethal foe.