Re: Queen of Fables vs Mighty Avengers/Omega Flight
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[b]Omega Flight
Arachne
Beta Ray Bill
Guardian
Sasquatch
Talisman
U.S.Agentand
The Mighty Avengers
Ares
Black Widow
Iron Man
Ms. Marvel
The Sentry
Wasp
Wonder ManDo the teams have what it takes to defeat the Queen of Fables and have a happily ever after? [/B]
Talisman alone can defeat her.
I disagree that Talisman is the only one that can hurt her. The Sentry's broken out of Strange's illusion magic before and Stormbreaker is obviously effective against magical enemies. Talisman is obviously the big gun on the team, but that doesn't mean that Asgardian magic and the mental abilities of the Sentry couldn't do a lot of damage. I say the teams take it.
Originally posted by tjcoady
I disagree that Talisman is the only one that can hurt her. The Sentry's broken out of Strange's illusion magic before and Stormbreaker is obviously effective against magical enemies. Talisman is obviously the big gun on the team, but that doesn't mean that Asgardian magic and the mental abilities of the Sentry couldn't do a lot of damage. I say the teams take it.
QueenOfFables can do more than illusion IIRC so Sentry won't help much.
I don't know enough about StormBreaker to say if it would be help.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
QueenOfFables can do more than illusion IIRC so Sentry won't help much.I don't know enough about StormBreaker to say if it would be help.
my point wasn't that Sentry is only effective against illusions; my point is that she's a creature based on magic, and the Sentry has shown to be, at times, mentally stronger than a lot of really powerful magic.
Originally posted by tjcoady
my point wasn't that Sentry is only effective against illusions; my point is that she's a creature based on magic, and the Sentry has shown to be, at times, mentally stronger than a lot of really powerful magic.
By "a lot of really powerful magic" do you mean one simple illusion spell?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
By "a lot of really powerful magic" do you mean one simple illusion spell?
it wasn't really a "simple" illusion spell. Dr. Strange was struggling pretty hard to keep it up, which you can tell by the sweat on his face and his shouted comments to Nick Fury.
but you're right. I've been drinking a little, and just as I wrote that comment and pressed "submit reply" I realized that I should edit it, but then kinda just forgot to do that.
your objection is true, but regardless, my point remains the same- Beta Ray Bill and the Sentry could probably do some damage to the Queen of Fables.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But would the others prove enough of a distraction for Talisman to do something? And what would Talisman do exactly - does she have any artifacts on the level of the Lasso with regard to dispelling the Queen's powers?
Can't she influence or channel the spirits of nearby magical beings?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Can't she influence or channel the spirits of nearby magical beings?
She can channel and control magical energy, control the spirits which reside in all things, and she also has her father's pouch, from which she can draw a virtually unlimited number of magical artifacts.
She also has access to 20,000 years worth of accumulated wisdom from those who wore the Talisman before her.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But would the others prove enough of a distraction for Talisman to do something? And what would Talisman do exactly - does she have any artifacts on the level of the Lasso with regard to dispelling the Queen's powers?
Yeppers, she now possesses Shaman's medicine bag meaning she has complete and utter access to the Void.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Can't she influence or channel the spirits of nearby magical beings?
Correct, even skyfather beings because they were from the spirit world. Also she can simply cancel out magic as she has done so easily against Loki.
Originally posted by shksprtxThat doesn't really tell me how she'd defeat the Queen of Fables... that tells me that she's a powerful sorceress, which I already know... but not what exactly she does to win...
She can channel and control magical energy, control the spirits which reside in all things, and she also has her father's pouch, from which she can draw a virtually unlimited number of magical artifacts.She also has access to 20,000 years worth of accumulated wisdom from those who wore the Talisman before her.
Originally posted by King_MungiWhat items from her bag of magicks would be equivalent to the Lasso?
Yeppers, she now possesses Shaman's medicine bag meaning she has complete and utter access to the Void.Correct, even skyfather beings because they were from the spirit world. Also she can simply cancel out magic as she has done so easily against Loki.
😑 Talisman can control Skyfathers?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What items from her bag of magicks would be equivalent to the Lasso?😑 Talisman can control Skyfathers?
Handful of baubles for starters. The full scope of the Void has yet to be revealed, but inside consists of millions of worlds, with trillions of magical spells and artifacts that Shaman [now Talisman] gained his abilities from.
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Baubles
Yeppers, she controlled the Northern Gods and Great Beasts. Even mentions it in her recent handbook entry too. BOOYAH!