Luke Cage vs US Agent

Started by Alfheim2 pages
Originally posted by Hercules
I'm not saying he is more durable than Hyde, I'm saying he takes a shot better and rolls with the punch.

Yeah ok thats a good point, but lets take the Executioner for example. He can lift 60 tons and is more durable than your average Asagardian and is also trained in combat. Cap winded and landed him flat on his back.

I cant see how SP being trained by the Taskmaster would make him take punches batter than the Executioner. Remember Cap got SP square on his neck and only stunned him temporarily. Cap hit the Executioner in the stomache, The Execuioner landed flat on his back and was winded.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah ok thats a good point, but lets take the Executioner for example. He can lift 60 tons and is more durable than your average Asagardian and is also trained in combat. Cap winded and landed him flat on his back.

I cant see how SP being trained by the Taskmaster would make him take punches batter than the Executioner. Remember Cap got SP square on his neck and only stunned him temporarily. Cap hit the Executioner in the stomache, The Execuioner landed flat on his back and was winded.

He hadn't been trained by Taskmaster when he was SP, but he had just left the army and was a trained soldier.

Exectuioner is trained in combat yes but thats not to say he would roll with a punch naturally, considering hes more of a weapons fighter than a hand to hand one and considering hes an Asgardian and probably didn't think a mere human with no powers was able to hurt him.

You could even say he hit Exectuioner harder than he hit SP because of who Exectuioner is, you could say he didn't catch SP as sweetly as he could have because SP moved at the last instant and he was a fraction of a cm off where he wanted to hit and thats why he didn't go down.

I just don't see the fight as PIS and both that fight and the fight in Cap 350 mean that Agent should make a better showing against Cap than he has since.

Hes been shown matching Cap move for move in a training session at the Avengers Mansion that he busted in on, he was even talking to cap while he was doing it.

He took down the Iron Monger armour hand to hand etc etc, so he shouldn't be getting walked over like he does really.

For those who wanted to see for themselves, here's the Ronan fight.

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Maximum Security #3: Ronan the Accuser
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US. Agent for the win better skilled all around better rounded fighter..

I think Agent should win...he's a douche though

Originally posted by Warlord
I think Agent should win...he's a douche though
Cage can be the same as well at times... besides being the douche and winning is more realistic.

Cage kills him

good fight

cage 6/10

stronger and more durable and a pretty good fighter

Cage is no slouch in hand to hand and US agent is never really shown to be that competent (his actual skill feats are pretty damn limited).

Ontop of that modern cage has taken class 100 hits that have knocked him miles without being KO'd (WWH) and tanked blasts from the living laser.

His strength and durability FAR exceeds US agent. Which is a shame cause i like walker.

I havent read Mighty AVengers, maybe he's getting some decent feats over there but as it is the most impressive thing ive seen is that he can beat a wrecking crew member 1 on 1. Cage can step to wrecker. Nuff said!

Cage stepped up to the wrecker and got knocked the f#$@$ down.. it isnt like he fought him alone he had help with his avenger team.

Cage knocked Wrecker into a car and had him feeling the pain.

And Cage has on screen feats showing how good a fighter he was. He went up against someone and told them that Iron Fist taught him some Ninja Sh#t.

Originally posted by KingD19
Cage knocked Wrecker into a car and had him feeling the pain.

And Cage has on screen feats showing how good a fighter he was. He went up against someone and told them that Iron Fist taught him some Ninja Sh#t.

funny b/c danny doesnt know ninja Sh#$ but has his own mystic MA style...aside from luke punching wrecker into a car dont mean squat.. Cable knocked Cage into a console and had him feeling the pain.

He didn't literally mean he taught him ninjitsu, he meant he taught him some martial arts moves.

And Cable hurting Cage is PIS, Cage has tanked an Iron Fist, blows from an angry Hulk, Rhino, Wonderman, etc... Cable shouldn't be able to do anything and you know it.

i know that luke can take a set amount of punches but can also easily be knocked back or off his feat from anything stronger and with more mass then his own natural weight...

Luke knocking back wrecker off his feet doesnt equate to being able to hang and beat him.

same for Cable knocking him off his feet.

I can go for Cage getting knocked off his feet by Cable if he's not set, but Cage knocked Wrecker about 20 feet back with movement lines coming from his body. And the car was demolished in the process. And I think he busted Wrecker's lip and bruised his face in the process. But Wrecker didn't wanna get up.

also cage felt pain b/c that is what happens.. his skin is more durable but it isnt immune to sensation either he feels pain. i really have to reread with what happen with wrecker but you gotta be crazy to think cage can beat and harm him with his 2o ton strength against wrecker's 40 or 50 ton strength.. plus the reason wrecker was hurt more then he should have is b/c if i recall correctly he was hit with his own crowbar.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also cage felt pain b/c that is what happens.. his skin is more durable but it isnt immune to sensation either he feels pain. i really have to reread with what happen with wrecker but you gotta be crazy to think cage can beat and harm him with his 2o ton strength against wrecker's 40 or 50 ton strength.. plus the reason wrecker was hurt more then he should have is b/c if i recall correctly he was hit with his own crowbar.

Thats assuming you take handbook stats as fact.
If colossus is class 100 than so is wrecker IMO albeit a low level class 100. There is no way in hell the thing is significantly stronger than the wrecker either.

Cage would come in alot less but more than 20 (id say 40+) with durability on a much higher level.

Cage has taken plenty of wrecker level hits through his career. In WWH he wasnt even hurt when a (supposedly) savage hulk level warbounder knocked him miles through a building.

I just dont think walker can put him down

Us. agent has his vibe shield to help him hit harder and block luke's punches..

Luke isnt nearly in the same lvl of skill as Us. agent. agent was trained with Cap's old style and has faced him and stalemated him in the past most notably in his early appearance