Cyber vs Midnighter

Started by OneDumbG03 pages

Originally posted by carver9
cyber 10/10 and quite easily.
Not really. Current Cyber doesn't appear to have any sigificant degree of healing factor. Current one can't even get over a heart condition. His older form had one which wasn't even anything to write home about either. He couldn't even regenerate an eye. That's how Wolverine sent him packing the first time Logan managed to win. Neither does his adamatium skin cover his jaw or throat. Wolverine choked Cyber in the past. And now that I see a few scans, does Cyber's adamantium skin actually cover the entirety of his face? Boneclaw Wolverine's slashed his forehead and drawn blood. Current Cyber's adamantium skin doesn't appear to be any different than his older one.

Either way. The poison laced claws are the only problem here. And Midnighter's enhancements would allow him to see that. Although Midnighter's advanced healing factor can cure AIDs and heal a massively lethal heroin dose... the poisons on Cyber can overcome Wolverine's healing factor and should overcome Midnighter's. But Midnighter can defeat Cyber. Tooth bullet through the eye, staff strike to collapse the windpipe, or simple punch through chin into his brain or into his vertebrae are all ways Midnighter could win this. Outcome of this battle simply depends on whether you think Midnighter's enhanced reflexes, speed and calculative abilities allow him to get a preemptive kill strike or whether he can dodge Cyber's claws long enough for him to perform a kill strike. I surely think he could:

Midnighter 8/10. At least.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Not really. Current Cyber doesn't appear to have any sigificant degree of healing factor. Current one can't even get over a heart condition. His older form had one which wasn't even anything to write home about either. He couldn't even regenerate an eye. That's how Wolverine sent him packing the first time Logan managed to win. Neither does his adamatium skin cover his jaw or throat. Wolverine choked Cyber in the past. And now that I see a few scans, does Cyber's adamantium skin actually cover the entirety of his face? Boneclaw Wolverine's slashed his forehead and drawn blood. Current Cyber's adamantium skin doesn't appear to be any different than his older one.

Either way. The poison laced claws are the only problem here. And Midnighter's enhancements would allow him to see that. Although Midnighter's advanced healing factor can cure AIDs and heal a massively lethal heroin dose... the poisons on Cyber can overcome Wolverine's healing factor and should overcome Midnighter's. But Midnighter can defeat Cyber. Tooth bullet through the eye, staff strike to collapse the windpipe, or simple punch through chin into his brain or into his vertebrae are all ways Midnighter could win this. Outcome of this battle simply depends on whether you think Midnighter's enhanced reflexes, speed and calculative abilities allow him to get a preemptive kill strike or whether he can dodge Cyber's claws long enough for him to perform a kill strike. I surely think he could:

Midnighter 8/10. At least.

Good post, I need to think on this one.

Remember boils and ghouls.. Cyber's throat is covered in adamantium.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Remember boils and ghouls.. Cyber's throat is covered in adamantium.

LukeCage has unbreakable skin too, but that didn't stop him from getting beaten into a coma.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
LukeCage has unbreakable skin too, but that didn't stop him from getting beaten into a coma.

Unbreakable skin dont equal adamantium skin, two different thing.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
LukeCage has unbreakable skin too, but that didn't stop him from getting beaten into a coma.

When was he beaten into a coma? Last I remember, he was caught in some huge explosion that put him into a coma.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
When was he beaten into a coma? Last I remember, he was caught in some huge explosion that put him into a coma.

Right, same thing.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Right, same thing.

Errr...not really, but okay? 😕

Its totally different. I cant remember cage being beaten up physically into a comma since his beginning. He basically absorbed the entire impact of that bomb to protect his girl and the baby. Thats far away from being physically beaten.

Exactly.

P.S.--Why are we discussing Cage's durability again?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly.

P.S.--Why are we discussing Cage's durability again?

Because we're tired of talking about piano wires.

Duh

🙄

adamatium >>>>>>>>>>>>>Lukes skinn. Luke has titium level durability...........that nothing compared to adamatium

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Exactly.

P.S.--Why are we discussing Cage's durability again?

Because of this post

LukeCage has unbreakable skin too, but that didn't stop him from getting beaten into a coma.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
adamatium >>>>>>>>>>>>>Lukes skinn. Luke has titium level durability...........that nothing compared to adamatium

I'm going to assume you meant titanium, even so, I've personally never seen Cage be cut by anything (not that I've read all of his appearances)

Have you? or are you just basing your comparison on your own opinion?

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm going to assume you meant titanium, even so, I've personally never seen Cage be cut by anything (not that I've read all of his appearances)

Have you? or are you just basing your comparison on your own opinion?

He is.

I believe Luke's skin has been pierced by adamantium needles or equipment? Not entirely sure. Either way there's a mooshy part which Midnighter can stab as much as he wants.

MN'er has an adamantium sword(s). I really don't know enough about Cyber to have an opinion, but I would think that all the talk of adamantium skin would largely be negated by the swords that the thread-starter specified.

And is his skin entirely adamanitum? I always thought it was just flecked with adamantium, not a solid wall of adamn. skin.

^ It's covered with flexible pure adamantium. Wolverine could not cut through it with his adamantium claws. Personally, I don't think Midnighter could cut through it. There is debate whether his entire face and throat is covered though. Jinzin's respect thread has a scan of Cyber's forehead being slashed by boneclaw Wolverine and noticeably drawing blood. And someone mentioned that he doesn't have adamantium covering his windpipe and Wolverine was able to choke him. Granted, these were classic Cyber incarnations, but current Cyber doesn't seem to be noticeably different.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's covered with flexible pure adamantium. Wolverine could not cut through it with his adamantium claws. Personally, I don't think Midnighter could cut through it. There is debate whether his entire face and throat is covered though. Jinzin's respect thread has a scan of Cyber's forehead being slashed by boneclaw Wolverine and noticeably drawing blood. And someone mentioned that he doesn't have adamantium covering his windpipe and Wolverine was able to choke him. Granted, these were classic Cyber incarnations, but current Cyber doesn't seem to be noticeably different.

His eyes are also a weak spot.

Surely any part that looks like regular skin is just regular skin, otherwise it would look all metallic (like his arms)

And if the adamantium is as flexible as his skin (which it would have to be to allow movement) then choking isn't out of the question ... neither is crushing (if something heavy enough were to fall on him that is)