Bastila Shan vs. Nomi Sunrider

Both in their primes,who wins?

Nomi

I think that Nomi wins, too.

This fight will be hard for Nomi though.

Bastilas fighting abilities are an unknown, but she was never described as a great warrior, she only has her battle meditation, Naomi wins, by default, if nothing else.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Bastilas fighting abilities are an unknown, but she was never described as a great warrior, she only has her battle meditation, Naomi wins, by default, if nothing else.

She can use Force Valor and Burst of Speed to boost her fighting potential. She is also adept at using double-bladed Light Saber.

At the least, she was powerful and can be considered in the class of 2nd tier Jedi in terms of over-all power.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
She has more then just Battle Meditation.

She can use [b]Force Valor and Burst of Speed to boost her fighting potential. She is also adept at using double-bladed Light Saber.

At the least, she was powerful and can be considered in the class of 2nd tier Jedi in terms of over-all power. [/B]

What is Force Valor and Burst of Speed, so can the TPM Kenobi, so what, every Force user can sped up his speed and reflexes with the Force, not a big deal. So what if she uses a double-blades saber, its how good you are with a weapon, not which weapon you use.

How do you know, she can be considered in the 2 class of tier(whatever that means), she is to much of an unknown, especially her skills with a saber.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
What is Force Valor

Master Yoda used this ability to great effect in his duels.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
and Burst of Speed

Originally posted by Count Makashi
so can the TPM Kenobi, so what, every Force user can sped up his speed and reflexes with the Force, not a big deal.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
So what if she uses a double-blades saber, its how good you are with a weapon, not which weapon you use.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
How do you know, she can be considered in the 2 class of tier(whatever that means), she is to much of an unknown, especially her skills with a saber.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
[b]Description of Force Valor: It is a Light Side Force Power that increases the resolve, accuracy, and speed of one's self and one's allies. Tapping into the Force, a Jedi can increase the rate at which one's capacities functioned, allowing the body to move more quickly, strike more powerfully, and fight with improved accuracy.

Master Yoda used this ability to great effect in his duels.

Burst of Speed allows a Jedi to dodge attacks easily and enables one's self to perform "Force Jumps" with ease during duels.

It becomes a big deal when these powers are used in a Duel.

She has "proficiency" in double-bladed Saber dueling according to KOTOR and she can perform some impressive melee attacks as well.

2nd tier Jedi must have good Light Saber Sweeping and Light Saber Deflecting skills. Bastilla is good at both. [/B]

Bastila Shan is no master Yoda not even close.

I know what burst of speed is, i used it together with Kenobi example.

Yea, but every Force user can use it.

So does Maul, who is better then Bastila, and Kenobi in his prime is better then Maul with Sabers.

You do realize, that she has the abilities, which you chose in the game, thats like saying Exile is a Jedi Watchman, because you chose it in a game.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Bastila Shan is no master Yoda not even close.

Force Valor will definitely help Bastilla in a duel.

I gave the example of Yoda to show that how helpful Force Valor can be in case of boosting the fighting potential of a Jedi as even the greatest of the Jedi Masters used this ability in duels.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
I know what burst of speed is, i used it together with Kenobi example.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Yea, but every Force user can use it.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
So does Maul, who is better then Bastila, and Kenobi in his prime is better then Maul with Sabers.

Check the below quote again:

She has "proficiency" in double-bladed Saber dueling according to KOTOR and she can perform some impressive melee attacks as well.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
You do realize, that she has the abilities, which you chose in the game, thats like saying Exile is a Jedi Watchman, because you chose it in a game.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Are you trying to twist my argument here?

Force Valor will definitely help Bastilla in a duel.

I gave the example of Yoda to show that how helpful Force Valor can be in case of boosting the fighting potential of a Jedi as even the greatest of the Jedi Masters used this ability in duels.

Kenobi and Qui-Gon used it to simply escape from those Battle Droids.

The level of proficiency in these abilities also matter.

What has Maul to do in this case? An irrelevant example.

Check this quote again:

No. These are natural abilities of Bastilla.

Exactly, all Jedi can use it and no, i ma not trying to twist anything(don't like twister), like i said, she is no Master Yoda, not even close on his level.

No, it is only logical they were using it in a fight as well(all 3 of them), but if they shoved it to fast, the audience wouldn't see anything.

Yes it does, but where does it say, that Bastilas proficiency is uber.

You said, that she is proficient with a double-bladed saber, i said so those Maul, who is better then Bastila with this weapon and yet Kenobi in his prime is even better then Maul. Its quite easy actually to understand.

Which Quote?

Even so, it is never stated, how good they are.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Exactly, all Jedi can use it

Originally posted by Count Makashi
and no, i ma not trying to twist anything(don't like twister), like i said, she is no Master Yoda, not even close on his level.

His example is aimed towards highlighting the importance of this power and the difference that it can make in a duel.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
No, it is only logical they were using it in a fight as well(all 3 of them), but if they shoved it to fast, the audience wouldn't see anything.

For example, Darth Sidious was shown using this ability in a duel when he quickly defeated those 3 Jedi Masters.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Yes it does, but where does it say, that Bastilas proficiency is uber.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
You said, that she is proficient with a double-bladed saber, i said so those Maul, who is better then Bastila with this weapon and yet Kenobi in his prime is even better then Maul. Its quite easy actually to understand.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Which Quote?

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Even so, it is never stated, how good they are.

Count Makashi for this type thread i got one sentence for you

with no disrespect here is what i say

"Count Makashi F-U-C-K the Unknown factors just give a damn Answer"

Thank you

Nomi wins here.

Easy choice:

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
Count Makashi for this type thread i got one sentence for you

with no disrespect here is what i say

"Count Makashi F-U-C-K the Unknown factors just give a damn Answer"

Thank you

I did give an answer, i said naomi wins by default. 😛

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

She can use [b]Force Valor and Burst of Speed to boost her fighting potential. She is also adept at using double-bladed Light Saber.

[/B]

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

She can perform some impressive melee attacks even when using the double-bladed Light Saber. One such example is "Triple Attack".

Nomi cuts bastila off the force and then kills her, end of story

In which game Vader used Lightning?

Nomi wins. Period.