DC vs. Marvel redo

Originally posted by batdude123
You said Surfer>>Green Lanterns.

And I said you're absolutely f[b]uckin out of your mind if you think Surfer would take down J'onn and GL at the same time. [/B]

everything they can do, he can do. plus at far far far far faster speed, from far far far far greater distance and then there's his energy absorption and projection - any type of energy -, his ability to clone his own powers, to alter dna planet-wide ... come on, is that not above any GL or what?

again, I don't see what MM is going to contribute in a fight with Surfer... MM might go intangible, but that's hardly going to affect an opponent he won't ever see. Surfer's gonna take the fight to the GL (whichever one it is), and move it into hyperspace. MM's gonna be pretty much useless.

Originally posted by janus77
yes he is. unless you're talking about some specially vamped GL, they're not a match for him.

everything they can do, he can do. plus at far far far far faster speed, from far far far far greater distance and then there's his energy absorption and projection - any type of energy -, his ability to clone his own powers, to alter dna planet-wide ... come on, is that not above any GL or what?

again, I don't see what MM is going to contribute in a fight with Surfer... MM might go intangible, but that's hardly going to affect an opponent he won't ever see. Surfer's gonna take the fight to the GL (whichever one it is), and move it into hyperspace. MM's gonna be pretty much useless.

Hal and Kyle can easily do all that shit. Why don't you pick up a GL book every now and then? It might help. Hal and Kyle = Norrin.

And the more I see your posts, the more I think this smilie holds true for you and SS. gaysex

Originally posted by llagrok
Current Silver Surfer was able to take out Ravenous relatively easy. Nova admitted that he wasn't able to match Ravenous and that no one but Red Shift or Stardust would be able to knock him out. SS isn't your average Herald after the upgrade he got from Galactus. Why would Galactus bother to give him a minor upgrade?

Surfer would probably lose or win after a long fight if he went up against MM or a GL, but it's not like saying that he would beat one of them is overrating them. He's beating herald class people in under a minute now.

Can't hal do the same? And has always been able to do so?

Originally posted by janus77
yes he is. unless you're talking about some specially vamped GL, they're not a match for him.

everything they can do, he can do. plus at far far far far faster speed, from far far far far greater distance and then there's his energy absorption and projection - any type of energy -, his ability to clone his own powers, to alter dna planet-wide ... come on, is that not above any GL or what?

again, I don't see what MM is going to contribute in a fight with Surfer... MM might go intangible, but that's hardly going to affect an opponent he won't ever see. Surfer's gonna take the fight to the GL (whichever one it is), and move it into hyperspace. MM's gonna be pretty much useless.

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MM would give surfer a hard enough fight on his own. And shame on you for not reading any JLA or Green lanterns books. They have feats that far outstrip any of the surfers. And They can alter thier dna to anything they want.Surfer would get his ass kicked if One GL turned his DNA into daxamit while using the speed force and the ring and stopping time. Let's see Surfer get out of that pickle. And it's totally possible. Now stop it with the surfer jocking. He's uber. But Never uber enough to take a GL and MM on at the same time.

Hopefully I'm misunderstanding but are we using Ravenous as a benchmark for how Surfer would do against Green Lantern?

Originally posted by Validus
Hopefully I'm misunderstanding but are we using Ravenous as a benchmark for how Surfer would do against Green Lantern?

He was equal with Surfer before Galactus gave him the will to fight.

Originally posted by Validus
Hopefully I'm misunderstanding but are we using Ravenous as a benchmark for how Surfer would do against Green Lantern?

Because Ravenous beat many other herald level beings and is a powerful character? He has the opposing force which is a versatile as the PC. Even though it's not comparable to a GL Ring it's still incredibly versatile and powerful.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He was equal with Surfer before Galactus gave him the will to fight.

Originally posted by llagrok
Because Ravenous beat many other herald level beings and is a powerful character? He has the opposing force which is a versatile as the PC. Even though it's not comparable to a GL Ring it's still incredibly versatile and powerful.

Originally posted by Validus
The only people he beat were Terrax and Air Walker, both bottom feeding heralds and both were with massive amounts of aid from his Seeker buddies.

Morg was taken out as well.

We don't know how those fights played out, but what we do know is that Ravenous was able to knock out Firelord(weakened?) and Ronan the accuser. Nova admitted that he couldn't stand up to Ravenous.

Ronan eventually beat him yes, but that was with a lot of aid. Note that breaking his hammer on Ravenous' face didn't kill him either, simply knocked him out.

Originally posted by llagrok
Morg was taken out as well.

We don't know how those fights played out, but what we do know is that Ravenous was able to knock out Firelord(weakened?) and Ronan the accuser. Nova admitted that he couldn't stand up to Ravenous.

Ronan eventually beat him yes, but that was with a lot of aid. Note that breaking his hammer on Ravenous' face didn't kill him either, simply knocked him out.

Originally posted by llagrok
Morg was taken out as well.

We don't know how those fights played out, but what we do know is that Ravenous was able to knock out Firelord(weakened?) and Ronan the accuser. Nova admitted that he couldn't stand up to Ravenous.

Ronan eventually beat him yes, but that was with a lot of aid. Note that breaking his hammer on Ravenous' face didn't kill him either, simply knocked him out.

Originally posted by Validus
Morg's been dead for years, no thanks to Ravenous. His only one on win was against a half dead Firelord. Ronan with Super Skrull's aid took him out. All of that would be fine if you weren't comparing him to Green Lantern. This would be like using Donna Troy's "victory" over a Superman robot as evidence to how she would do against the real thing.

Not comparing Ravenous to Green Lantern, read what I wrote.

I merely used Ravenous as an example of how herald level characters are taken out quickly by Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by llagrok
Not comparing Ravenous to Green Lantern, read what I wrote.

I merely used Ravenous as an example of how herald level characters are taken out quickly by Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Validus
But Green Lantern is not just any herald level character. Hal and Surfer or Kyle and Surfer are more equal than most any characters you could compare.

I know that, but the average GL isn't. Did the OP mention that they are fighting the two strongest Green Lanterns? I'm just using it as a Surfer feat.

Originally posted by llagrok
I know that, but the average GL isn't. Did the OP mention that they are fighting the two strongest Green Lanterns? I'm just using it as a Surfer feat.

John was the only lantern that I can remember that has a recent win against the powering up Superman. Kilowog Once absorbed a planet worth of souls. I'm going to find out more feats from the other lanters. But Any lantern worth thier salt should give surfer a decent fight before I gains victory.

Originally posted by llagrok
I know that, but the average GL isn't. Did the OP mention that they are fighting the two strongest Green Lanterns? I'm just using it as a Surfer feat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
John was the only lantern that I can remember that has a recent win against the powering up Superman. Kilowog Once absorbed a planet worth of souls. I'm going to find out more feats from the other lanters. But Any lantern worth thier salt should give surfer a decent fight before I gains victory.

Of course, but if he fights like he did against Ravenous he'd beat them silly. John Stewart and Kilowog aren't random Green Lanterns, far from it.

Originally posted by Validus
Surfer's not beating any of Earth's Lanterns as easy as some people here make it sound.

Why are Earths Lanter's so powerful? With the exception of Wog. Isn't there a girl lantern is is supposed to be pretty uber as well?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Isn't there a girl lantern is is supposed to be pretty uber as well?

Katma?