Judge's Vote
First off let me say this was a great match. I was very happy to see this pick up some momentum after the initial lull. This match is actually difficult for me to judge, so as is my custom, I'll spell out the key points that led to my decision so that both parties can see I took your many points into consideration before casting judgement (forgive me for being long winded, I feel I owe it to the participants to explain my decisions as thoroughly as possible):
1) Apendages: I'm of the school of thought that Spiral would be able to fabricate the 4 additional limbs without much effort, and without need of grafting them to DH-II's frame. That was already covered in round one, let alone the fact that Leo provided a scan of Spiral instantaneously transforming Storm's lower body into machinery akin to Mojo on panel. From that evidence, it does seem she'd be able to augment her frame by simply replicating the pre-existing arms of DH-II as stated in the previous round without much effort.
2) Sonics: Newjak, you seemingly completely disregarded and dismissed the effects Leo's sonic bombardment would have on you, and you also provided no evidence that the sonics would have no effect on. That was a bad idea. Your amalgam still has a sense of hearing, being composed of metal doesn't negate that, and where as the concussive force may be repelled or absorbed by your blast shield, the sensory effects, which you never addressed, would be your downfall.
4) Blast Field: Leo provided on panel evidence of Spiral being able to penetrate Cannonball's blastfield. Newjak's only counter was stating that the forcefield would somehow take on the properties of Colossus body, but he provided no substantiating evidence to support this claim, and it frankly makes no sense to me that the combustion of Cannonball's
chemical reaction power would take on the properties of Colossus. I'll assume that somehow Cannonball's combustion powers can escape Colossus's solid steel frame without said frame being porous, but I'm not going for this stretch on top of that with no proof to back it up Newjak. I can't simply take your word for it. You also didn't provide evidence that you could attack with your swords with the blast shield's up. You should have really examined your scans before you presented them. The first scan you provided was of Sam bracing and pushing a table in front of himself external of his field. The table was not even in his grasp Newjak. In the second scan Sam never brandishes the axe, he had just landed and his blast field had dissipated. He then attempts to pick up an axe but it was too heavy for him to lift, so then he just resorts to blasting through the trolls unarmed. You provided no evidence that you'd be able to strike while the blast field was up.
4) Reflexes: Leo has a clear and decisive advantage in the reflexes and agility department. Spiral alone has better reflexes than each facet of her opponent amalgam independently or combined. If you add to that equation a fully functional DH-II (who has is a fully functioning super computer with superhuman reaction times in his own right) and the disputed, yet feasible, abilities of Indigo, you're severely out-classed.
Also, the scan you provided to support BK's magical awareness (him seeing through the disguise of trolls) in no way lends credence to your claim that you'd be able to track Leo's teleportation, let alone the fact that Leo never stated he was using his magical teleportation (Indigo has teleportation powers as well). In the scan all BK did was see through the illusion of 2 stationary trolls. Either way, you provided no further evidence to substantiate this claim but then proceeded to base your final attack on it.
Now, this part here is key, which will be covered in my upcoming points:
5) Throwing your swords: In your final post you stated that you would throw your swords at Leo when he teleported, then summon it back and repeat as necessary. I have a serious problem with this method of attack. Firstly, you never provided evidence that you had the split second reflexes necessary to pull this off, or clairvoyance (you only showed that you could see through magical illusions).
Secondly, I have a very hard time believing that you'd be able to tag a character with tactical teleportation who has a distinct speed advantage, as well as believing you'd be able to toss and retrieve your sword in some sort of
rapid fire manner given the limitations of your own character's speed, and then to think you'd be trying to guide the missile to follow a teleporting Kali around and strike her in the back while leaving yourself open to attack.
6) Black Knight's Teleportation: You never stated that you brought your mount into battle, so you don't have the ability to teleport, particularly considering you provided no evidence that you had the ability without Strider.
7) One dimensional: Newjak, you really should have opened up your offense. You presented no alternative means of attack. It's either slash or sword toss, both of which can be easily avoided. I don't actually see you having an advantage in close quarters combat because Leo's character is faster, arguably a more highly skilled swordsman, equally as strong (DH-II is a class 100 character) and also would have 4 additional appendages to attack you with while grappling your two arms (which would have to be external of your blast field to strike, assuming your blast field is still up). You only have two arms Newjak, and you stated that you're brandishing both swords, meaning you're not brandishing your shield to defend yourself if necessary...
etc, etc...
There's a character quota on posts so I can't cover all the points I'd like to, but I wanted to be very clear in why I make my decisions, so I'll summarize it here:
Newjak, you can't stretch things to fit into your argument when the evidence doesn't substantiate it, or in some cases is completely unrelated.
You claim Black Knight can sense all magic and has clairvoyance but you only provide a scan of him seeing through an illusion of two trolls.
You show Black Knight throwing his sword at a stationary target and assume you'd be able to tag a moving target while being bombarded with sonics that would be throwing off your concentration while you yourself would also be blasting through the air.
You show Black Knight travelling extradimensionally on his mount and stretch that into you somehow having tactical teleportation for no fathomable reason, along with the fact that no where in any of your arguments stated you brought Strider with you.
You claim that Sam's blast field won't hamper your ability to wield your sword's yet provide no evidence to refute that contention.
You claim Colossus's magical immunity will protect even in light of more recent evidence of him being overwhelmed by magic.
The adamantium and Indigo's redundant abilities really played no factor in my decision as much as a lack of evidence and unfounded extrapolations that I just couldn't accept, coupled with there only being two easily negated and overcomed methods of attack presented on Newjak's part.
I'm sorry, but I just couldn't buy it Newjak. Your last effort, while asthetically pleasing, was really just flash and no substance upon close analysis (which is why it took me so long to levy my judgment).
Sorry man. Cutting Death's Head II's body with the sword wouldn't really do enough damage to put him down considering how great his regeneration abilities are, and that's even assuming you'd be able to land a blow, where as the sonic bombardment and Leo's advantages in close and long range seemed like too much for your one trick character to overcome.
My vote is for Leonidas 👆
My judge vote goes to Leonidas.
Newjak, I really like what you did in that last post of yours. You just shouldn't have saved it for the last post. So much of your time was spent attacking the somewhat trivial aspects of Leonidas plan that I never really got the feel for what you were going to do in match. You just played into his hand a bit too much. The ideas in your last post might have worked if you just developed them a bit more.
What I really liked most about Leo's plan was his multiple variety of attacks. He did a great job of taking advantage of the versatility and speed of his character allowing him to dictate the match direction. The sonic attacks preceded by teleportation was probably the most convincing offense in this match which tilted it to his favor.
Woah.
I didn't even know I was supposed to judge this, so sorry about the late vote, this thing took a while to read from beginning to end...
Judges vote:
Your last post was great NJ, but I still thought you spent a little too much time pecking at remedial points Leo was making, without looking at the 'bigger picture'... While Leo mythodically picked the greater majority of your strategys apart.
So without dragging this into a drawn out essay on why I picked who I did, my vote goes to Leo...
You both did an excellent job!
Judge’s Vote
(Newjak) Your faith in Colossus’ “immunity” to magic was ill-put, considering Leo showed plenty of instances where magic did in fact have an effect on him.
(Newjak) There was a lack of evidence that Cannonball would even have been able to create a blast field because of Colossus’ metallic skin and his resistance to thermal energy. Regardless, even if you could generate the blast field during your prep, Spiral can easily bypass Cannonball’s shield as Leo demonstrated. And Peter’s body would be almost of no help in the effectiveness of making the blast shield resistant to Spiral’s spells. Btw, the last scan you showed of Peter getting whooped by Baba Jaga doesn’t show a resistance to magical energy, it simply shows her cowering away from him because she in fact was vulnerable to iron.
I’m pretty sure that with the extreme malleability of DH2, adamantium wouldn’t exactly be THAT hard to create for Spiral. Not to mention, her brain speed is being enhanced TREMENDOUSLY via Indigo’s computer augmentation of the mind. Leo has a good point in the fact that with the fragile body of a human, Spiral had to be extremely cautious so that the woman wouldn’t die. In this case, she’s not being inhibited by such limitations.
All in all, I have to say I was more impressed with Leo’s battle tactics than I was with NJ’s. Either by the depletion of the blast shield and then stabbing him through the eyes, or by using the sonic attack (btw, simply because Colossus is “steel,” doesn’t mean it won’t effect him… he can still hear in his armored form) and then using the 6 blast attack (or any combination of the above)… he’d win this fight. Newjak was on the defensive for the majority of this fight, and he really didn’t seem to mount an offensive battle strategy until his final post (which btw, I would’ve like to seen it compounded on even further… if that was one of your first posts, the match could’ve turned in the other direction).
My vote: leonidas
Congratulations to both on a very entertaining battle. 👆
Originally posted by Scoobless
Well now that this is done I want to ask a question about a minor point - wouldn't Spiral waving away Cannonball's blast field fall under the "no power negation" rule? in fact Spiral was specifically banned from negating her her opponents abilities while she was being drafted.😐
yea....minor ermm
I say re-judge! 🙂