What happens if Shuma creates a bunch of planets and just tosses them at Urizen?
I may be the only one on the forum that thinks this... but I find it hard to compare Spawn characters to Marvel, and DC ones. Considering all of the Spawn characters are compared to God and Satan, and God and Satan rule one planet, and yet, people compared to them, are taking down dimension destroying beings...
Oh well.
Originally posted by Tyrant
What happens if Shuma creates a bunch of planets and just tosses them at Urizen?I may be the only one on the forum that thinks this... but I find it hard to compare Spawn characters to Marvel, and DC ones. Considering all of the Spawn characters are compared to God and Satan, and God and Satan rule one planet, and yet, people compared to them, are taking down dimension destroying beings...
Oh well.
Well it is hard because the feat are 100% different but just thinking about that it toke the combined might of Heaven and Hells army to just CONTAIN Urizin is scaring even more scaring is it when thinking about that God (creation of MoM) actually wanted to step down against Urizin (think that had something to do with God knowing that Spawn would take care of Urizin but what the hell)
Originally posted by UtrigitaYa, I know, but it still doesn't sound right.
Well it is hard because the feat are 100% different but just thinking about that it toke the combined might of Heaven and Hells army to just CONTAIN Urizin is scaring even more scaring is it when thinking about that God (creation of MoM) actually wanted to step down against Urizin (think that had something to do with God knowing that Spawn would take care of Urizin but what the hell)
I mean, the comparison doesn't seem right to me. Urizen murders him? Based on?
Hell, I haven't seen anything from God or Satan's work that Odin couldn't do.
Is it just based off of their names, is that it?
Another thing I find funny, is how Urizen's indestructible... except a piece of him was chipped off, and Spawn later ended up destroying it...
Originally posted by Tyrant
Ya, I know, but it still doesn't sound right.
Although, I would have liked to see a fight on panel between the two.I mean, the comparison doesn't seem right to me. Urizen murders him? Based on?
Hell, I haven't seen anything from God or Satan's work that Odin couldn't do.
Is it just based off of their names, is that it?
Another thing I find funny, is how Urizen's indestructible... except a piece of him was chipped off, and Spawn later ended up destroying it...
Originally posted by TakDidn't live long enough? Ha!
God and Satan didn't even live enough for them to show more feats. If it took Spawn and the help of M.O.M to defeat them, thats already way above Odin.
It took MoM to tell Spawn how to become as powerful as God and Satan, to get the better of them (well, destroy their army).
That in no way, even has relevancy to their power levels...
Urizen cannot be destroyed, only contained. That much is known. It took the combined might of Heaven and Hell to defeat him the first time. He is the embodyment of the Void. He destroys all thought, all dreams, all imagination, he is the End of Good and Evil.
The battle would end up being between himself and Shuma Gorath. However, seeing as how Shuma had been defeated by Strange, Urizen, in my opinion, would be the eventual victor.
Takion.... God and Satan are immortal as well. They are also almighty. However, M.O.M.- The Mother of Creation is thier superior. They are only her children. She created them, and she has an infinite number of children equal to God and Satan roming her Universe.
God and Satan were left to battle in an Alternate Dimension, as stated on panel, because their battle will never end. Niether can die, like Urizen, they cannot be destroyed, only contained. They created Heaven and Hell, and all beings who inhabit them.
God and Satan were at full power when they battled. M.O.M. is thier superior Takion, sorry but that's the truth. I know in your religion its not possible for anyone to be above God, but this is Spawn, and in this story, the Mother is far more powerful than both.
Tyrant- I understand your confusion so let me clear it up:
The Earth, in Image, isn't just a big giant rock with people on it, like it is in Marvel and DC. The Earth is a living creature in Spawn. There is a force called The Green World, which is the spirit of the Earth. The Earth is a living organism, kind of like Ego the Living Planet, except the Earth doesn't have a giant mouth.
The Earth is also a multiverse within itself. It has billions of pocket dimensions and alternate realities of itself. This has been explained in both an old issue of Spawn, and in the current where God and Satan were trapped in an Alternate Reality to battle forever.
Spawn and Angela defeated a weakened Urizen with the help of Greenworld, the Spirit of Earth, which devoured Urizen into a dark prison.
"The Chains of Hell, the Ribbons of Heaven, and the Vines of Earth tie down the Dark God Urizen"
The Earth cannot just be destroyed in Image the way it can in Marvel and DC. Image's cosmology is built very differently.
The Earth was a Gift to God and Satan. However, since they did not desire to share this world, they created thier own worlds: Heaven and Hell.
Hell is described as an infinite dimension of suffering, never ending, wild and untamed.
Heaven is beautiful, but limitted, a giant Silver City in the cosmos.
Then there is the Garden of Eden, a world guarded by the Disciples, Mother of Creation's personal guard. To eat from the Tree of Life would render you immortal and God-like, this creating God Spawn.
image god and satan can create there own pocket universes then right and they are infinite and endless even though heaven is not he could still do it, if you see the feats from the angels of image and the demons as well you would think that there boss must be one bad dude.
M.O.M gave spawn the power through the tree to be image god and satans equals perhaps supirious i dont know what happend to them but what i do know is he was strong enough to kill all the image angels and hellspawn as well as the entire earth and then recreate it he sealed of the dimensions of image hell and heaven as well.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]Urizen cannot be destroyed, only contained. That much is known. It took the combined might of Heaven and Hell to defeat him the first time. He is the embodyment of the Void. He destroys all thought, all dreams, all imagination, he is the End of Good and Evil.The battle would end up being between himself and Shuma Gorath. However, seeing as how Shuma had been defeated by Strange, Urizen, in my opinion, would be the eventual victor.
Takion.... God and Satan are immortal as well. They are also almighty. However, M.O.M.- The Mother of Creation is thier superior. They are only her children. She created them, and she has an infinite number of children equal to God and Satan roming her Universe.
God and Satan were left to battle in an Alternate Dimension, as stated on panel, because their battle will never end. Niether can die, like Urizen, they cannot be destroyed, only contained. They created Heaven and Hell, and all beings who inhabit them.
God and Satan were at full power when they battled. M.O.M. is thier superior Takion, sorry but that's the truth. I know in your religion its not possible for anyone to be above God, but this is Spawn, and in this story, the Mother is far more powerful than both.
Tyrant- I understand your confusion so let me clear it up:
The Earth, in Image, isn't just a big giant rock with people on it, like it is in Marvel and DC. The Earth is a living creature in Spawn. There is a force called The Green World, which is the spirit of the Earth. The Earth is a living organism, kind of like Ego the Living Planet, except the Earth doesn't have a giant mouth.
The Earth is also a multiverse within itself. It has billions of pocket dimensions and alternate realities of itself. This has been explained in both an old issue of Spawn, and in the current where God and Satan were trapped in an Alternate Reality to battle forever.
Spawn and Angela defeated a weakened Urizen with the help of Greenworld, the Spirit of Earth, which devoured Urizen into a dark prison.
"The Chains of Hell, the Ribbons of Heaven, and the Vines of Earth tie down the Dark God Urizen"
The Earth cannot just be destroyed in Image the way it can in Marvel and DC. Image's cosmology is built very differently.
The Earth was a Gift to God and Satan. However, since they did not desire to share this world, they created thier own worlds: Heaven and Hell.
Hell is described as an infinite dimension of suffering, never ending, wild and untamed.
Heaven is beautiful, but limitted, a giant Silver City in the cosmos.
Then there is the Garden of Eden, a world guarded by the Disciples, Mother of Creation's personal guard. To eat from the Tree of Life would render you immortal and God-like, this creating God Spawn. [/B]
Originally posted by Tyrant
Ya, I know, but it still doesn't sound right.
Although, I would have liked to see a fight on panel between the two.I mean, the comparison doesn't seem right to me. Urizen murders him? Based on?
Hell, I haven't seen anything from God or Satan's work that Odin couldn't do.
Is it just based off of their names, is that it?
Another thing I find funny, is how Urizen's indestructible... except a piece of him was chipped off, and Spawn later ended up destroying it...
Based on ?
OK , he's unkillable , slapped around Spawn (whom already has a pretty impressive power-set) , gains power from souls ( the fight is taking place in hell) and casn only be restrained.
AND
It's a tag team , Urzien crushes Shuma.
Originally posted by grey foxAh, didn't see the tag team. Although Perrkius is hardly helping.
Based on ?OK , he's unkillable , slapped around Spawn (whom already has a pretty impressive power-set) , gains power from souls ( the fight is taking place in hell) and casn only be restrained.
AND
It's a tag team , Urzien crushes Shuma.
But, what happens if Shuma creates another planet, and throws it at the battle field?
Plus, Shuma can also draw energy form places, and Urizen can only be restrained by what we've seen attack him.
Did God actually attack him? Did Satan? Hell, I only remember people far weaker than Urizen fighting him, and even if we go by him being indestructible and all that jazz, it wouldn't be hard for Shuma to restrain him.