Originally posted by Super Marie 64As much as I disagree with you here, this is no place for a philosophy lesson. Take it to the philosophy forum instead, because trying to "lecture" RP members in an RP forum will not get you any serious idea or consideration since most here would rather discuss off topic subjects rather than things that can be taken elsewhere with more contribution to the subject as expected.
[b]Your argument is cut in half by our mere participation in this forum. Roleplaying is the very soul of being someone other than yourself, same as with acting. The core of evolution is that the self expand, this through experience and acting. If you are already all that you can become, then you will be no more ten years from now than you are right now.I approve of the basis in your idea, that we have it in us, but that doesn't mean it can in any way define us, or make us out as what we act as. We have it in us to be anything, even God.
Your hypothesis is the claim that everyone is everything. That we all are God as much as we are ourselves. I believe we have it in us to evolve, but I don't believe we have the result of the evolution in us all along. We need to go out there and evolve through experience, not by looking inwards at what we already have.
The text you see on your screen isn't me expanded, or me of a different type. The text you see is the me I want to be, or the me I can become. I can not be more than I already am, but what I can be is an idea of what I can become, or what I wish I could have been.
This of course does not change the fact that none of this is real. It is the expression of reality, but it's not reality itself. You express the self to the best of your ability, but that doesn't mean that parts of yourself was lost amongst the keystrokes. You aren't all of you, ergo you aren't as real as you should be. You're only as real as the world knows you, and the world doesn't know you at all here.
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Thank you.
And you missed my point completely in the other post that i'm not going to bother replying.
Merry Christmas; it's the Judgment of Celestial for your enjoyment.
Originally posted by JacopeX
As much as I disagree with you here, this is no place for a philosophy lesson. Take it to the philosophy forum instead, because trying to "lecture" RP members in an RP forum will not get you any serious idea or consideration since most here would rather discuss off topic subjects rather than things that can be taken elsewhere with more contribution to the subject as expected.Thank you.
And you missed my point completely in the other post that i'm not going to bother replying.
Correct me if I'm wrong (Which I'm not), but didn't Cherrywild (The creator of this thread) create this with purpose of us getting to know eachother? She wrote, and I quote "This thread is so the RPers of the Unhosted Role-playing section can get to know a little more about each other, and get to know one another"
So before you try to get "witty" with me, do your homework. My philosophy, and the discussion of respective members philosophy is more relevant to this thread than many of the other discussions that has been ongoing for the past hundreds of pages.
Ergo, me and Q'Anilia just now were more on-topic in this thread than any of you have been for a long time. Because we shared our philosophies, which is a massive part of what define us. What we believe in, and how we believe, is what makes us who we are. By sharing our philosophy, we share ourselves to the readers, ergo having readers getting to know us, which is what this thread was designed to do.
So in all its beautiful simplicity: Think before you write.
Now, I didn't miss your point. I know exactly what you wanted said, but I saw it as an opportunity to move over to something that I wanted said. So in a sense, you missed my point completely. I didn't miss yours, I just didn't care for it.
And you seem to misunderstand the term philosophy. I don't give people philosophy lessons, because philosophy isn't facts. Philosophy is the idea of analyzing assumptions and beliefs, but not facts. I can teach people my philosophy, but that doesn't mean I'm actually teaching anything. I'm just sharing my ideas and hoping people take them in and push them further.
I could give philosophy lessons, which teaches you how to challenge thoughts and beliefs. If people wants that, I would actually love to do so. But what I did here, that's not a lesson. That's the sharing of a belief. My personal belief. Not the real stuff.
There is no drama here, unless JacopeX intend to make it so. I respect his right to disagree and only he can make a big deal out of it.
All I am saying is that what he is talking about is wrong, since it is. This thread was designed to get to know one another, more than anything, so it's more relevant than anything to discuss personal philosophies.
Disagreeing is not drama. Making a big deal from the absolute rule that people disagree, would however be. All I'm doing is explaining, nothing more.
If he interpret it in a negative way, that's his problem. I have no interest in fighting.
Because in the end, I had a brief but interesting interaction with Q'Anilia. I don't write here because I expect people to be philosophical back, I write here to share my beliefs. The fact that Q'Anilia actually wrote something philosophical made my day. I didn't, nor do I to this point expect anyone to do so.
The reason he wrote what he wrote, was because he did not think before he did so. I see how it can be considered a taunt, by some even an insult, but it's not false. If he had stopped to think for a moment, and read the first post in this thread, he'd see how she created it so that people could get to know eachother.
So it's thoughtlessness, or the absence of interest to know what you're talking about. It could be that he wanted me to freak out so he can shine a little more. Either way, what I wrote wasn't false at all. It was in fact, a lesson. One people generally take as an insult in place of advice. Why this is, I'm not sure. My best guess is insecurity.
If you aren't confident in yourself, you interpret a great deal more as attacks, or insults towards you. If you are a confident person, nothing can make your pride waver.
Confident people aren't suicide cases. Insecure people are, because they interpret things around them in a negative way towards them.
Example: You're fired. Reason: The company is doing bad, and is in economical crisis.
Confident person: They couldn't afford to keep me. Their loss.
Insecure person: They just said that to sound nice. I weren't good at my job.
I say this from experience and Psychology 101. I know personally that I take it hard if someone underestimate my intelligence, and I see through a lie. I get insulted if someone lie to me and I realize this, even if the lie was for my own good.
I get insulted, and insult turns into anger. This is because I value my intelligence, and someone telling me an obvious lie insults my intelligence. I don't care about the lie, because it's an absolute truth: Everybody lies. Even I.
What offend me is if someone couldn't muster a better lie, one worthy my intellect.
And no, I don't suffer from superiority complex. I just know I'm an intelligent person. Many would consider this a case of arrogance, but I just consider it truth.
You don't seem to be very confident, because you've drawn an awful lot of negative conclusions, heh heh. "It's not false", "he was being thoughtless", "they're insecure", they're in-confident". I'm sensing some underlying issues and psychological projection here miss. Let's get into a very indepth and time consuming discussion about it.
EDIT- You double posted. Cheater.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You don't seem to be very confident, because you've drawn an awful lot of negative conclusions, heh heh. "It's not false", "he was being thoughtless", "they're insecure", they're in-confident". I'm sensing some underlying issues and psychological projection here miss. Let's get into a very indepth and time consuming discussion about it.EDIT- You double posted. Cheater.
I am flawed, and I have my insecurities. Just because JacopeX give that impression, doesn't mean I can't as well. It is true, I'm not as confident as many think. There are a number of things that is the reason for this.
If you are sincere and want to get into it, I'd be happy to participate. It is unfortunate how hard it is to understand sarcasm Online, so I'm not sure what you want or don't want, or if you're just making fun of me.
As you can see already, my intelligence is one of my insecurities. I don't keep things brief, because I need to constantly prove to myself that I am as intelligent as I think I am. This imply that I'm not as confident as I am intelligent, because if I were, I would be a lot briefer than I often am.
Albert Einstein once said: If you can't explain it in a simple way, you don't understand it well enough.
Originally posted by Super Marie 64Why do you keep bringing up JacopeX? I don't care about him, lol. I'm talkin to you.
I am flawed, and I have my insecurities. Just because JacopeX give that impression, doesn't mean I can't as well. It is true, I'm not as confident as many think. There are a number of things that is the reason for this.
If you are sincere and want to get into it, I'd be happy to participate. It is unfortunate how hard it is to understand sarcasm Online, so I'm not sure what you want or don't want, or if you're just making fun of me.
What offend me is if someone couldn't muster a better lie, one worthy my intellect.
Have at it; work that big brain of yours.
As you can see already, my intelligence is one of my insecurities. I don't keep things brief, because I need to constantly prove to myself that I am as intelligent as I think I am. This imply that I'm not as confident as I am intelligent, because if I were, I would be a lot briefer than I often am.Albert Einstein once said: If you can't explain it in a simple way, you don't understand it well enough.
Albert Einstein also very rarely took anything seriously. What do you think about that.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Why do you keep bringing up JacopeX? I don't care about him, lol. I'm talkin to you.Have at it; work that big brain of yours.
Albert Einstein also very rarely took anything seriously. What do you think about that.
1. It's quite simple, really. I have certain insecurities revolving my intelligence, and JacopeX is a recent example where my intelligence has stood triumphant. For this reason, I bring him up, because it's verifying my intellectual nature. I need people like JacopeX to feel that my intelligence has value.
2. Have a work at what? Why I'm insecure in various departments? If we listen to Sigmund Freud, I am who I am because my mother left me and my dad when I was quite young, and because my dad is so deep into work that I rarely see him. In absence of a mother, my dad has come to serve the role as both parents and because he's an intellectual man, I feel that I need to be equally intellectual. If I'm less intellectual than I feel that I should be, then I'm failing my role as my father's daughter.
3. Albert Einstein was a great mind, and he knew this. He was not oblivious to his own brilliance, and he was rather confident in many areas of life. Because of this confidence, he gave himself the right to not constantly having to validate himself. He could afford to be silly, because he knew that he had what it took, when he had to be serious.
He also knew that humanity knows nothing. That our quest to break free from our chrysalis of ignorance was futile, and ignorance in itself. Albert Einstein was often silly because he didn't have to prove anything to anyone.
Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[B][b]1. It's quite simple, really. I have certain insecurities revolving my intelligence, and JacopeX is a recent example where my intelligence has stood triumphant. For this reason, I bring him up, because it's verifying my intellectual nature. I need people like JacopeX to feel that my intelligence has value.
Like taking your fat, uglier friend with you to the nightclub so everyone likes you better. Yeah, I get it. How do you know that your intelligence has triumphed, though? No one's stated as such. I have an assumption on what your answer will be. I want to see it though first. By the way, this is technically like the second part of the question here, are you having fun yet?
2. Have a work at what?
You just said that you're offended by lies that are too transparent, that you prefer lies that challenge your intelligence. However, you also just said that internet sarcasm is hard for you to detect. So have it, was I being sarcastic or not? Maybe I'm genuinely interested in exploring your psyche, maybe I'm just screwing with you because I have a superiority complex, maybe I'm bored and in need something to do while waiting for this next game of Halo to load, maybe it's a combination of the three, or not. Going by your statements, deciphering the meaning of my interest as feigned or sincere should be fun to you.
If we listen to Sigmund Freud, I am who I am because my mother left me and my dad, and because my dad is so deep into work that I rarely see him. In absence of a mother, my dad has come to serve the role as both parents and because he's an intellectual man, I feel that I need to be equally intellectual. If I'm less intellectual than I feel that I should be, then I'm failing my role as my father's daughter.
There are multiple facets of intelligence though. There is no human on Earth who has been intelligent in every aspect. So really, how can you be equally intelligent?
3. Albert Einstein was a great mind, and he knew this. He was not oblivious to his own brilliance, and he was rather confident in many areas of life. Because of this confidence, he gave himself the right to not constantly having to validate himself. He could afford to be silly, because he knew that he had what it took, when he had to be serious.
I always got the feeling that he didn't take many things seriously because he was just a silly bastard.
He also knew that humanity knows nothing.
That's a paradox. It's impossible to know nothing. Do you agree?
That our quest to break free from our chrysalis of ignorance was futile, and ignorance in itself.
Can you rephrase this in a less metaphorical way?
edit- I really wish you'd at least have the decency to drop everything in your life and spend all day on the internet so you can reply to my posts. Like me. Staring at Scenario's ugly mug in the Users Browsing this Forum list is tedious.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Like taking your fat, uglier friend with you to the nightclub so everyone likes you better. Yeah, I get it. How do you know that your intelligence has triumphed, though? No one's stated as such. I have an assumption on what your answer will be. I want to see it though first. By the way, this is technically like the second part of the question here, are you having fun yet?You just said that you're offended by lies that are too transparent, that you prefer lies that challenge your intelligence. However, you also just said that internet sarcasm is hard for you to detect. So have it, was I being sarcastic or not? Maybe I'm genuinely interested in exploring your psyche, maybe I'm just screwing with you because I have a superiority complex, maybe I'm bored and in need something to do while waiting for this next game of Halo to load, maybe it's a combination of the three, or not. Going by your statements, deciphering the meaning of my interest as feigned or sincere should be fun to you.
There are multiple facets of intelligence though. There is no human on Earth who has been intelligent in every aspect. So really, how can you be equally intelligent?
That's a paradox. It's impossible to know nothing. Do you agree?
Can you rephrase this in a less metaphorical way?
1. I know I'm right because there's nothing to be wrong about. He said that this is no place for a "philosophy lesson" as he phrased it (The fact that it wasn't what it was is irrelevant), while the fact of the matter is that this thread was designed for the members of this forum to get to know one another.
A personal philosophy is the core of who you are. It represent what you believe in, how you act, how you treat others and what you do with information given you. Sharing my philosophy is as much me as it can be, aside from deeply decriptive details from my life.
He wrote without thinking, without taking the time to actually look back what this thread is about. I consider it a triumph, because while philosophy in itself is a matter of opinions, a personal philosophy is who you are. Which is what this thread is about. I don't need anyone to tell me I'm right, because it's right there for everyone to see. I may have my insecurities, but I know when I'm right. And I know the difference between being right and speculating what is right.
You of course have the ability to make various things in my post wrong, but that doesn't make the concept of it so. The basic reason behind the post, was that personal philosophy describe you as a person, which is what the thread is about.
2. What I meant was that if you intend to lie to me, make it an intellectual lie that I won't see through. It's not like I want peope to lie to me, it's just that I know that everybody lie about one thing or another and if you intend to lie to me, I'd appreciate if you gave your lie some thought before making it up. Poorly thought out lies are insultive towards my intelligence, unless they are designed to be obvious, then they are just humorous.
As for if you were saracastic or not, I don't know, nor do I have any interest in speculating it. I'm enjoying making this post, as I have many of my more recent posts to you and various others in this thread. It would be unfortunate if it turns out you made such a deception, tricked me into talking about me when you in reality was just making fun of me. That's the stuff pain is made of. Particularly so when I expressed a genuine interest to do so.
3. We can't have the same degree of intellect, but we can pretty much match eachother in terms of thinking. My point is that my dad has been working hard for me and my brother as a single parent, and since his idea of love is not of this world, I have always felt the need to respect him in a department that he understand. Intelligence. If I'm not as intellectual as I can be, again, I'm living in the fear that I'm failing to be my father's daughter. Because he value intelligence, so should I.
4. It's impossible to know nothing from a human perspective. It's not impossible to know nothing from a cosmical perspective. All that we know is what we think is real, but if we don't even have the ability to know how big the universe is, how can we possibly think that we understand anything in it? Albert Einstein said that everything is relative, and so is knowledge. We know much for being humans, but how much do we REALLY know?
We don't even know if religion is true or false, and that's one of humanitys defining traits. Many scientists think they know God is not real, which leads to the question of "What is God?" which leads to an even greater absence of knowledge.
We know a lot, but only because we are humans in the time that we live in. We know a lot in comparison to ants, who knows nothing, but what if the creation of the universe is by an intellectual being? What if we are all nothing more than a science project, or an ant farm?
5. I don't think I can, but I'll try. The thing with me and metaphores, is that I use them when I can't think of a better way to explain it.
What I mean is that humanity is shrouded in a cover of ignorance. We want to know more than we do, but it's futile to do so, because we can't ever even come near to understand a fraction of the world we live in. It's futile to strive for intellectual climax. You should instead enjoy what knowledge you have and make the best of life.
Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Correct me if I'm wrong (Which I'm not), but didn't Cherrywild (The creator of this thread) create this with purpose of us getting to know eachother? She wrote, and I quote "This thread is so the RPers of the Unhosted Role-playing section can get to know a little more about each other, and get to know one another"
So before you try to get "witty" with me, do your homework. My philosophy, and the discussion of respective members philosophy is more relevant to this thread than many of the other discussions that has been ongoing for the past hundreds of pages.Ergo, me and Q'Anilia just now were more on-topic in this thread than any of you have been for a long time. Because we shared our philosophies, which is a massive part of what define us. What we believe in, and how we believe, is what makes us who we are. By sharing our philosophy, we share ourselves to the readers, ergo having readers getting to know us, which is what this thread was designed to do.
So in all its beautiful simplicity: Think before you write.
Now, I didn't miss your point. I know exactly what you wanted said, but I saw it as an opportunity to move over to something that I wanted said. So in a sense, you missed my point completely. I didn't miss yours, I just didn't care for it.
And you seem to misunderstand the term philosophy. I don't give people philosophy lessons, because philosophy isn't facts. Philosophy is the idea of analyzing assumptions and beliefs, but not facts. I can teach people my philosophy, but that doesn't mean I'm actually teaching anything. I'm just sharing my ideas and hoping people take them in and push them further.
I could give philosophy lessons, which teaches you how to challenge thoughts and beliefs. If people wants that, I would actually love to do so. But what I did here, that's not a lesson. That's the sharing of a belief. My personal belief. Not the real stuff.
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1) I was not trying to get Witty...I was trying to get you to take this philosophy discussion elsewhere because i'm sure you won't get any real discussion since many here would like to discuss other things that are off topic from the rest of the forum. Of course, I don't expect to you to understand that since I am basically reiterating continuously.
2 )You decide to sum up an unnecessarily lengthy post, giving me the automatic impression that you are trying to create the "Drama" Blaxican is talking about and your just stuck in an angst state of mind. I only asked you kindly, expecting some form of malevolent, thoughtful response. But in the end, I get nothing but an insecure little brat who thinks she knows everything and believes everyone else is wrong because they think differently and consider differently, and chooses to belittle them as if that will make anything any better. No wonder most dislike you here. You just want to argue all the time because you feel threatened when one thinks differently than you and you don't even have anything better to do than try to own the opposition of your ideas with pseudo intellectual bull shit. In the end, you end up flat on your face in total denial. I'll leave you alone with that by the end of this. I'm not going to take you seriously. Even if I say that, you will still reply. 😂
3) I call it a philosophy lesson because no matter what anyone will say, you'll object to the ideals as if your ideas were correct. But there is no correct answer. Hence i'm calling it a philosophy lesson based on your expression. You made it a legit debate.
4) You: Talking about the justification of your comments.
You considered YOURSELF above others based on this recommended intelligence level nonsense.. This has nothing to do with comparison of the statement of others. Just you comparing yourself/belittling others. I don't give a crap about mod at all, this is all about you. Read this over and over again until you get in your hard headed mind.
Originally posted by Super Marie 64Misdirecting your own faults upon the opposition.
[b]There is no drama here, unless JacopeX intend to make it so. I respect his right to disagree and only he can make a big deal out of it. [/B]
You are so perfect.😊
And thanks for proving your superiority complex to the world. It only extends my original point that mattered to me most than your opinions about me.
And may I also add how shallow you are. You know? Mustering a crass impression on the intellect of a stranger through internet posts. I'm here mustering up a personal impression of you. 😆 I've already had a discussion with you, and all you do is deny and pull claims out of your ass. You always start the discussion when the individual is not in the same mood as you to argue about something totally pointless to them at the moment. It's a chemistry...I try to consider the individual's purposes rather than beginning to throw differences down in order to show off knowledge the opposition will never learn from.
You chose to to pick an argument with me in the past, and I stood triumphant in the end as you ended up falling off the tree as you tried, believing your superior aspects will bend the truth to your favor. I guess you haven't learned yet in aspects of personality.
I can care less.
I can't believe I used to respect and admire you and your ideals. 😘 Seems like I have my own personal faults to deal with myself as to the type of people I listen and believe in. At least I can admit I have much to learn and avoid denial of having something I never possessed. I'm only here to express myself however I can while you create false impression of individuals as if a masters degree bends the favor towards you every time in all aspects of any argument. Such as believing I was here to anger you...Well now i'm here to tell you that you have a long way to go if that's is your final answer. 😉
This is a discussion thread...not an argument/debate thread. Let's keep it that way.
Anyways.
Has anyone ever tried night classes in college?
Oh god, how I wish classes were always in the afternoon so I could have had time to compose myself as I get up, do homework, study, and then go to school. I think I would have done much better in the past (Due to having to wake up too early beyond my daily routine and not having time to eat anything. Hence my tardiness.). 😛