Originally posted by Toku King
My god........... That is incredible! Oh please please please [b]please tell me that that'll be in the film! They should lengthen and bulk up his arms a bit, but besides that, I am beyond impressed! [/B]
I'm afraid it's just fan-art, well made incredibly detailed fan-art, but still fan-art.
Most of them looked TF related imo, sure that most of the Decepticons looked like metal spiders after abit of staring, but most of the Autobots and a few decepticons did look like TF's, they tried to achieve a level of modernism, which I think they slightly tapped, however, it's gonna need more time to seee the direction of thesee bots come later sequels
Name one G1 TF that looked like Frenzy did.
Or Megatron did.
Or Skorponok did.
Then consider how much TF screentime those "characters" got.
They as an overall whole just looked over engineered, not enough defining lines, and to much "innards on the outside" taking away from the armoured toughness look. They look like you could reach in cut the wires and innards so easily that you could take 'em out with a paperclip and an elastic band. Pure Bionicle, Zoid terminator/generic robot rendering.
They might have resemble the design ethos in some of the more recent stuff, but not the G1, simpler, immediately more indentifiable look, which actually conveyed character and made those charaters cool..
When you look at the the 'alternators' series as a "what could have been" lookwise, then you'll probably see what I mean.
Well Optims for one looked semi-G1. The windshield chest, the matrix inside him. Red, blue, samurai-like face. He looked G1 inspired. As did Jazz, his bunny ears and shades made him look Jazzy!
Starscream looked somewhat G1 with his wings on his back and his cockpit on his chest.
Frenzy was almost a little man, in the film....Frenzy was a little man...
Originally posted by Scythe
Well Optims for one looked semi-G1. The windshield chest, the matrix inside him. Red, blue, samurai-like face. He looked G1 inspired. As did Jazz, his bunny ears and shades made him look Jazzy!Starscream looked somewhat G1 with his wings on his back and his cockpit on his chest.
Frenzy was almost a little man, in the film....Frenzy was a little man...
Prime's face mask? Occasionally.
Nope that wasn't the Matrix inside of him, so that doesn't count either.
Things like the wind shield chest do look a bit G1 so fair play there.
With him as the main focus (along with Bumblebee) they had to register some sort of Op vibe.
Starscream looked way too King Kong to be a G1.
Now if the character was meant to be Apeface.... I could believe it. He also has never had an ant-face.
The wings being there could also just as easily have been a Robotech thing, a gobot thing....
So looking like a little man is now the g1ness measuring stick...?
Sounds like if Tom Cruise'll be on screen as Rumble in "2" then , he'd be G1 eh...? Well why not? Even with no CGI he looks more like Rumble and Frenzy than the vertically stacked pile of welding rods and tin foil that was in this movie.
Show us any pics of the above mentioned G1 characters looking like their movie counterparts. Can't. Can you...?
Nope. And neither could I.
Yeah but he was cool (if slightly hammy) back then.
A warm and intelligent character that didn't sound like the dumbest gangsta thung in movie history. That was grieves me about the changes they made for the new Jazz. And while the chest being the hood and the arms spouting out of the sides look the whole rendering just looked too "un-cybertronian" if that makes any sense. And, like the others, the over-complicated rendering made it difficult at times to see what was going on with the guy in action.
Don't get me wrong, Jazz was one of the more g1ish of them, and you're right, it is all subjective I guess but for my tastes it was 'close but no cigar'.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yeah but he was cool (if slightly hammy) back then.
A warm and intelligent character that didn't sound like the dumbest gangsta thung in movie history. That was grieves me about the changes they made for the new Jazz. And while the chest being the hood and the arms spouting out of the sides look the whole rendering just looked too "un-cybertronian" if that makes any sense. And, like the others, the over-complicated rendering made it difficult at times to see what was going on with the guy in action.Don't get me wrong, Jazz was one of the more g1ish of them, and you're right, it is all subjective I guess but for my tastes it was 'close but no cigar'.
Yeah. Again, this was all due to the "modernization" of the bots. I for one would've laughed if they would have retained their blocky G1 look in the live-action movie, but I also would've felt like they needed to be redone to look "futuristic." Also, I can't help to wonder that the lack of writers and designers from the comic series are what "messed" up their look.
Actaully a lot of it will be because Bay wanted to have his own designs so he could make cash from. And the models of vehicles that he was given to choose from from -effectively- his sponsors, GMC.
THATS what they changed. 🙁
They easily could've gone with the G1 designs, but updated the skin rendering to modernize and it would be a winner.
If you wanna talk bulk and block, just look at Barricade, Blackout, Ratchet and Ironhide.
Therefore the 'it couldn't look like blocky g1' excuse Bay put out and so many people bought, is flimsy.
Like the no massshifting/"Oh when it suits we'll break that rule" thing.
🙁
He just wanted his own thing he could make money from for him and his friends. If he had to mess up the subject he was making that cash on the back of in order to make it "his".....so be it.
Well, my argument is that it wouldn't have looked a great deal blockier anyhow.
And they could apply all the microdetailing they liked if they stuck to at least somehow the forms from say the alternators or Masterpiece ranges then I'd eaeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssily have more respect for the output, but Bay had be greedy..