they still get beat by Surfer.
Surfer could easily destroy Superman by grabbing him and taking him across the universe at millions of times the speed of light, whilst transmuting himself to kryptonite, siphoning the yellow sun energy from Superman's body, attacking him telepathically and physically crushing him... all in a few seconds.
he returns and stomps Orion.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
you know it would not happen that way, surfer is a pacifist.
i do believe he is superior but he wouldn't murder superman.
I just took this to be a case of Surfer needing to win, "bloodlusted", in which case he would always win against this kind of opposition. he's just way too powerful, fast and versatile.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless he goes zomg-CBR-style-crazy Surfer really isn't that far above the others. He can probably take more wins considering he has the best way to deal with Astro-Force blasts from Orion.
he's absorbed and retained a portion of the power he took from UniLord, he's also survived attacks from T & A meant to kill him, quite a prolonged attack on him that almost shattered a moon.