Originally posted by crimson_2010
And you underestimate tekken cast again and overrated Street fighter char but it doesn't matter cuz you're probably a Gouki fanboy? ( look at your comments n ur ava)
At least I don't post noncanon feats, pretending that they're true, and I'm a fan of a being that is TRULY strong 😛
i dont think we sould count the feats of each character
oro and his friend arent going to include all those feats.
so why should we?
at the trailer ryu had hard time with kazuya and he barley used his hadue.at the sf universe he wipesout shitty things .now i know this isnt canon but its still a version of ryu.
akuma would most likely to be rival to akuma or jinpachi
now akuma can kill jinpachi with 1 punch.
in the game he couldnt becouse ono putts aside all the feats and would give jinpachi some chances.
if you dont understand my post then please inform me.
We MUST use the feats to state wich char is stronger.
And about the fact that in the SFXTekken trailer Kazuya is a match for Ryu, we must count that SFXTekken is the first Capcom game to include Tekken chars, so it has to promote those "never seen before in a Capcom game" chars. In the previous "vs game" Ryu soloed Galactus, but that's just impossibile. Even a Ryu with complete illumination and Oro's training wouldn't have been able to defeat Galactus.
A trailer with Ryu that uses Kazuya as a fllorcloth would have been truly anticlimatic so, by the "rule of cool", we see Ryu having and hard time.
An epic "Dragon" vs "Demon" fight is a lot more interesting than a curbstomp battle.
As you have said: Gouki has the power to 1-shot Jinpachi with a fist. But if both are included in SFXTekken, would you prefer to see an epic battle between them or "PUNCH... Gouki Wins... Fatality!"?
In a vs game rule of cool > canon abilities, but in a topic to delcare who's truly the stronger fighter we just have to use canon feats and powers.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
[B]No. Reread Feng's Tekken 6 prologue. It outright stated the scrolls do not provide a power boost, which invalidates his T5 ending.The scroll merely stated, "Destroyer of all styles, the one true ultimate style, it transcends the power of The Dragon God, which exceeds all human ability."
how do you explain his tk6 ending?Without the power of the scroll, he can "compete" with Gouki? hahaha i'm looking for when he will obtain the true power of the scroll. You prove nothing at all
Hmm, relying on an unconfirmed source from a movie that isn't even out yet? Excellent!Lmao unconfirmed source? r u a dumb o_o? Or you want me to give you more information for this CG movies, here you are :http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/tekken-6/news/cgi-tekken-film-tekken-blood-vengeance-coming-summer-2011/a-201105128129140065/g-2008100914821954024
If you don't believe me, go check Harada twitter. Like i said : haters gonna hate😄 Oh and i said we will analyse their power once this movie will be out but i already see some awesome feats[QUOTE]oh can it with that noise! Who cares what avi & sig he has? Could I say you have a blood fetish based on your screen name? No, but it would be just as valid as the shite you just spouted.
It's true, i've a blood fetish, kind of that😑 thenk to prove my point once again
Meioh_Hades ----------> i post canon feats, if you don't like it or ignore it, so be it but it reinforce my position, that's all 🙂
Originally posted by crimson_2010
how do you explain his tk6 ending?Without the power of the scroll, he can "compete" with Gouki? hahaha i'm looking for when he will obtain the true power of the scroll. You prove nothing at all
You have provided evidence that has outright gone against his own prologue. Thats all the proof I need to invalidate the T5 ending. The T6 one I can accept, since it's still stuff all compared to island destroying and CAUSINg volcanic activity on Goukentou.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Lmao unconfirmed source? r u a dumb o_o? Or you want me to give you more information for this CG movies, here you are :http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/tekken-6/news/cgi-tekken-film-tekken-blood-vengeance-coming-summer-2011/a-201105128129140065/g-2008100914821954024
If you don't believe me, go check Harada twitter. Like i said : haters gonna hate😄 Oh and i said we will analyse their power once this movie will be out but i already see some awesome feats
Your being immature crimson. The movie isn't even out yet, so there's no way to cast judgement on it, since there is no context. You don't even know if it will be Canon to the tekken series actual plot yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
It's true, i've a blood fetish, kind of that😑 thenk to prove my point once again
My god.... Ok, fine. That is still no excuse for you trolling Meioh based on his avatar dude, or casting judgement for that matter. I myself have not changed my Avi & sig for YEARS. My Nick is the same everywhere and does not reflect me as a person at all. Admittedly, need to update at least the Avi & sig, but to judge peoples entire personality based on that is flawed.
then its like time travel,it just cant happen
so its dosent make sense
how we can compere them and be sure 100%
and somtimes the good > bad and now its even more
confusing, prime example would be scorpion vs ryu
how can we determine the winner
becouse feats sometimes arent efective in battles
besides its just videogames so why bother
It is canonicity that retains consistency for a character.
I have long been what some might call a canon nazi at times precisely because if we allow things like capabilities from crossover games, then REALLY wacky shite gets leverage in debates... Example as brought up here would be that Ryu can actually stand toe to toe with beings like Apocalypse, Onslaught and Galactus... Hell, that puts Ryu well and truly into high end Darkstalker area right alongside Morrigan and Demitri and Pyron...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
[B]You have provided evidence that has outright gone against his own prologue. Thats all the proof I need to invalidate the T5 ending. The T6 one I can accept, since it's still stuff all compared to island destroying and CAUSINg volcanic activity on Goukentou.
Ok then that's prove that Feng wei without unlocking the power of the scroll is pretty powerful, and that's prove also Jin may have a chance to beat Ryu ( Feng wei didn't win any tournament unlike Jin)
Your being immature crimson. The movie isn't even out yet, so there's no way to cast judgement on it, since there is no context. You don't even know if it will be Canon to the tekken series actual plot yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.
Wtf are you talking about? did u read me well? This new movie will be canon as stated by Harada himself, cuz it's set between tekken 5 and tk6, it's like a spin off. And since this movie is canon, we will see more feats from main protagonists aka Mishima but not this month, later.... looks like i surestimate your comprehension
My god.... Ok, fine. That is still no excuse for you trolling Meioh based on his avatar dude, or casting judgement for that matter. I myself have not changed my Avi & sig for YEARS. My Nick is the same everywhere and does not reflect me as a person at all. Admittedly, need to update at least the Avi & sig, but to judge peoples entire personality based on that is flawed.
like someone said : "your beauty represents your soul" even if "the cover of a book can deceive his quality". I'm not gonna generalize it but when someone(s) spites on Tekken (or other games) like nothing, don't bring arguments unlike you and overhypes his favorite(s) game(s), i can make my own opinion about this dude. But it's only subjectif.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Ok then that's prove that Feng wei without unlocking the power of the scroll is pretty powerful, and that's prove also Jin may have a chance to beat Ryu ( Feng wei didn't win any tournament unlike Jin)
Feng also didn't fight Jin, whereas Ryu did fight Akuma. Akuma's feats still shit on Feng's or Jin's. See, I can use A>B>C logic too.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Wtf are you talking about? did u read me well? This new movie will be canon as stated by Harada himself, cuz it's set between tekken 5 and tk6, it's like a spin off. And since this movie is canon, we will see more feats from main protagonists aka Mishima but not this month, later.... looks like i surestimate your comprehension.
What? I just damn well said it's NOT OUT YET!!! Do not try to judge feats based on goddamn previews... Wait until we have the film itself to go on, that way we have context for the feats.
Originally posted by crimson_2010
like someone said : "your beauty represents your soul" even if "the cover of a book can deceive his quality". I'm not gonna generalize it but when someone(s) spites on Tekken (or other games) like nothing, don't bring arguments unlike you and overhypes his favorite(s) game(s), i can make my own opinion about this dude. But it's only subjectif.
And there's another much ore prevalent saying, one that actually coincides with the rules "If you have nothing good to say about a person, say nothing."
Seriously, Crimson, you are way more fanboy than how I can ever dream to be.
You're judging feats from a movie that you HAVEN'T SEE YET.
And talking about making opinions about avatar, sig, etc., looking at your posts I think that your nickname is "crimson 2010", 'cause you're 1 year old 😛
(however I must compliment you: when I was 1-year old I wasn't able to read and write)
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
[B]Feng also didn't fight Jin, whereas Ryu did fight Akuma. Akuma's feats still shit on Feng's or Jin's. See, I can use A>B>C logic too.
Well Ryu did fight a hold back Akuma, right? It's doesn't prove anything besides Jin is top tier in Tekken, Feng can't win against someone who can defeat a super demon or the "God of fighting". He never won a tournament unlike Jin who wield the power of Devil.
What? I just damn well said it's NOT OUT YET!!! Do not try to judge feats based on goddamn previews... Wait until we have the film itself to go on, that way we have context for the feats.
mmmm... that's what i'm trying to say🙄 , we must wait ofc!!!!
And there's another much ore prevalent saying, one that actually coincides with the rules "If you have nothing good to say about a person, say nothing."
It's no about good or bad, it's about his reaction. And lool everyone said bad thing or good thing to someone, it's called critic!!!
Meioh_Hades ---> you just prove me that Human is hopeless❌
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Well Ryu did fight a hold back Akuma, right? It's doesn't prove anything besides Jin is top tier in Tekken, Feng can't win against someone who can defeat a super demon or the "God of fighting". He never won a tournament unlike Jin who wield the power of Devil.
Which proves my earlier assessment. Your tryng to base this in A>B>C logic, which is faulty and inadmissable. And actually destroys your earlier point to not use titles as a justification. So please, just stop.
Originally posted by samirerre
ryu lost to alex and hugo
No, he didn't.
He defeated Alex flawlessly. And Hugo only survived a Shin Shoryuken, he never won that battle, as ryu was later eliminated from the tournament by Oro.