Ryu v.s. Jin

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How do I overrate him? I give proof when I debate for him.

Strength and speed I can't argue with but they don't really prove anything.

Durability is pretty much null since Jin couldn't beat Ken either. Skill...Dude Ryu is older and has spent his days breaking his back training against Oro. Fact is that SF characters are for the most part stronger than Tekken characters

the answers are:
-no
-yes
-nothing
-yes

and compare that to Jin Kazama who:
-beat godtier
-beat hightiers though still drugged and groggy and weakened considerably (T4 when he beat kazy and Hachi back to back)
-Jinpachi and Ogre could both wipe out humanity. Hugo can't even figure out that Poison is a guy.

Sado over rates x 1 million the Char he thinks wins

while under rating x 100 billion the characters he thinks loses

how about you say something more reasonable than "oh Sado underrated Ryu...boohoo..."

~Sado

Sado, Ryu never lost to Hugo, the only thing you have in that entire statement is that Ryu didn't KO hugo in a single move like he did to Alex.

Oh, and BTW, Ryu has defeated at least two godtiers, one completely on his own, ala Akuma... Thank you.

AND just for your information, Devil Within is not canon.

here he goes again

ryu couldn't lift people like Hugo while jin beats ogre and jinpachi and

again the person where he debates against making look weak and overrate the character he like

Sado, Ryu never lost to Hugo, the only thing you have in that entire statement is that Ryu didn't KO hugo in a single move like he did to Alex.

Oh, and BTW, Ryu has defeated at least two godtiers, one completely on his own, ala Akuma... Thank you.

AND just for your information, Devil Within is not canon.

again the person where he debates against making look weak and overrate the character he like

~Sado

Who cares who beats God Tiers, since it's simply ammunition for A>B>C logic.

And, Hugo lost to Ryu, who cares if he wasn't Ko'ed by the Shin-Shoryu-Ken. He lost, and that feat is unconfirmed.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Who cares who beats God Tiers, since it's simply ammunition for A>B>C logic.

And, Hugo lost to Ryu, who cares if he wasn't Ko'ed by the Shin-Shoryu-Ken. He lost, and that feat is unconfirmed.

It's not necessarily A>B>C logic. If a character defeated someone else, that doesn't automatically imply that the defeated character was weaker. It could mean that the character who won had what it took to defeat his or her opponent.

Originally posted by Xenogears
It's not necessarily A>B>C logic. If a character defeated someone else, that doesn't automatically imply that the defeated character was weaker. It could mean that the character who won had what it took to defeat his or her opponent.

That's not what A>B>C logic is about. It's to prevent arguments like where people base a bulk of their arguments on how a fight went down even if it does not showcase a feat and has no relevant in a debate. Arguments like: "Kyo & Iori beta Gods so they can beat anyone" is bad, Furthermore games versus refuses to take into account powersets, and how they apply to battle. If Falmers for instance can beat a like Orochi, why do they need plot devices for Igniz or in general?

And, Hugo lost to Ryu, who cares if he wasn't Ko'ed by the Shin-Shoryu-Ken. He lost, and that feat is unconfirmed

As for the fight itself, you remember our little discussion we had long time back. if i remember correct, we both left either winning as unconfirmed.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
i care because the shitshoryuken is regularly pwning all sorts of fighters on these forums. its like shinshoryuken is the sure fire ender of all fights. THAT is why it matter, and you know better than this.

Same with ShunGokuSatsu, but there will always be exceptions. What's so hard about that to except? 😕

Originally posted by Sado22

As for the fight itself, you remember our little discussion we had long time back. if i remember correct, we both left either winning as unconfirmed.

~Sado

UNCONFIRMED (still trying to track down source. Saiki says it's in one
of the Gamest or Arcadia issues, but which specific one is unknown):
Hugo was stated to have made an amazing performance in the SF3
tournament. He also apparently fought Ryu there, since he got hit by a
clean shot of Ryu's shin shoryuken and wasn't knocked out. Storyline-wise,
Ryu's shin-shoryuken is supposed to be one of the most powerful moves in
the game. Hugo... has a lot of endurance Oo At any rate, though,
contrary to popular belief, the fact that he 'put on an amazing
performance' shows that he at least put up some of a fight vs Ryu.

The event took place in the Third Street Fighter tournament. So, why would the results be unconfirmed when Ryu clearly lost to Oro?

and we left it at "we can't be sure" because of:

UNCONFIRMED (still trying to track down source. Saiki says it's in one of the Gamest or Arcadia issues, but which specific one is unknown): Hugo was stated to have made an amazing performance in the SF3 tournament. He also apparently fought Ryu there, since he got hit by a clean shot of Ryu's shin shoryuken and wasn't knocked out. Storyline-wise, Ryu's shin-shoryuken is supposed to be one of the most powerful moves in the game. Hugo... has a lot of endurance Oo At any rate, though, contrary to popular belief, the fact that he 'put on an amazing performance' shows that he at least put up some of a fight vs Ryu

and later on in the samething he says that Ryu and Hugo could have very well fought in the SF3 3rd strike when ryu was in USA. ALso Ryu is there in Hugo's ending too. all that is confirmed is that Hugo made a good performance in SF3. not against anyone in particular. he could have very well fought Alex in a good fight since htey both have special intros and are seen fighting the other in the Gaint impact intro.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
and we left it at "we can't be sure" because of:

[b]UNCOMFIRMED[/B]

Most likely, Ryu
beat Hugo, since Capcom has stated that they fought. And Hugo obviously
didn't beat Ryu, since Oro was the one to beat Ryu.

Originally posted by Sado22

and later on in the samething he says that Ryu and Hugo could have very well fought in the SF3 3rd strike when ryu was in USA. ALso Ryu is there in Hugo's ending too. all that is confirmed is that Hugo made a good performance in SF3. not against anyone in particular. he could have very well fought Alex in a good fight since htey both have special intros and are seen fighting the other in the Gaint impact intro.

~Sado

Goro pwns all like noobs with his four pectoral muscles.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Meaning we do not know how the fight happened, Sado. He could not have beaten Ryu because he was disqualified for sure by Oro.

Ryu won from Hugo cause Oro beated Ryu

and now we are again talking about ''who beated who''

Jin wins.

No.

Originally posted by Xenogears
Jin wins.

Damned edits!