Originally posted by batdude123
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Why the laughter? Surfer certainly does have the ability to take out superboy prime.
SBP has some pretty crippling weaknesses that surfer seems almost tailor made to exploit:
Matter Manipulation to eliminate the armor, Power Drain to drain the yellow solar energy out of him, Bombard with red solar to further weaken and damage him.
Surfer is also insanely fast- he's been shown to go hundreds of times the speed of light when he needs to- a speedblitz by SBP is almost out of the question- and incredibly durable..it's going to take more than a few hits to take him out.
did anyone else note that surfer is substantially more experienced than SBP is? Surfer fights gods and cosmic threats on a regular basis.
I'd give surfer the majority here. he's just more versatile with no real exploitable weaknesses.
Originally posted by carver9
Youre a idiot.
You don't have to be perfect, but at least have some sort of grammar and sentence structure when you're attempting to insult someone.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Why the laughter? Surfer certainly does have the ability to take out superboy prime.SBP has some pretty crippling weaknesses that surfer seems almost tailor made to exploit:
Matter Manipulation to eliminate the armor, Power Drain to drain the yellow solar energy out of him, Bombard with red solar to further weaken and damage him.
Surfer is also insanely fast- he's been shown to go hundreds of times the speed of light when he needs to- a speedblitz by SBP is almost out of the question- and incredibly durable..it's going to take more than a few hits to take him out.
did anyone else note that surfer is substantially more experienced than SBP is? Surfer fights gods and cosmic threats on a regular basis.
I'd give surfer the majority here. he's just more versatile with no real exploitable weaknesses.
It's going to be kind of hard trying to do all this stuff as he's KO'd or dead.
Might as well be shooting arrows, and firing guns at a nuke.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You don't have to be perfect, but at least have some sort of grammar and sentence structure when you're attempting to insult someone.It's going to be kind of hard trying to do all this stuff as he's KO'd or dead.
Might as well be shooting arrows, and firing guns at a nuke.
Im not writing a essay and im sure as hell not trying to impress you or batdude. If i make any kind of mistakes, if you want to take the time, correct it for me, i dont mind.
By the way, silver surfer aint beating superboy prime 9/10. Thats impossible. Im struggling to even think of a way that he could win against a being like that.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You don't have to be perfect, but at least have some sort of grammar and sentence structure when you're attempting to insult someone.It's going to be kind of hard trying to do all this stuff as he's KO'd or dead.
Might as well be shooting arrows, and firing guns at a nuke.
and how is he going to be "Ko'ed or dead?" SBP isn't faster than surfer is, and surfer's fought beings as strong or stronger than himself before.
jesus man, he's not just going to sit there and get hit.
9/10 might be silly, but a well written surfer can take the majority over SBP. 6/10 or 7/10 is a definite possibility.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
and how is he going to be "Ko'ed or dead?" SBP isn't faster than surfer is, and surfer's fought beings as strong or stronger than himself before.jesus man, he's not just going to sit there and get hit.
9/10 might be silly, but a well written surfer can take the majority over SBP. 6/10 or 7/10 is a definite possibility.
Neither did the other tons of characters that SBP fought at the same time...the same ones who together would pwn SS.
1 hit is all it would take to KO or kill SS...and red sunlight surely isn't going to affect SBP with any kind of time before that happens.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not writing a essay and im sure as hell not trying to impress you or batdude. If i make any kind of mistakes, if you want to take the time, correct it for me, i dont mind.By the way, silver surfer aint beating superboy prime 9/10. Thats impossible. Im struggling to even think of a way that he could win against a being like that.
Never said you were writing an essay. As a matter of fact, it was just a suggestion.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not writing a essay and im sure as hell not trying to impress you or batdude. If i make any kind of mistakes, if you want to take the time, correct it for me, i dont mind.
In most societies it is considered good etiquette to avoid errors in grammar or spelling whilst attempting to belittle the intellect of others.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
and how is he going to be "Ko'ed or dead?" SBP isn't faster than surfer is, and surfer's fought beings as strong or stronger than himself before.jesus man, he's not just going to sit there and get hit.
9/10 might be silly, but a well written surfer can take the majority over SBP. 6/10 or 7/10 is a definite possibility.
Considering the people SBP beat down, how he's punched out of the phantom zone, ret-con punch, how he busted out of the speed force while imprisoned under red sunlight, smashed a 300 meter thick wall of pure GL-made willpower, how he blitzed flash, got to Oa at insane speed...............
Surfer is not getting a majority on SBP. Good god man, A PRE-CRISIS KRYPTONIAN LOSING 9/10 TO A MERE HERALD?! 🤨
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Neither did the other tons of characters that SBP fought at the same time...the same ones who together would pwn SS.1 hit is all it would take to KO or kill SS...and red sunlight surely isn't going to affect SBP with any kind of time before that happens.
Surfer is substantially faster than the other "tons of characters" SBP fought at the same time. He's clearly faster than all of the lanterns, as well as standard superman, AND the flashes, as he can exceed lightspeed hundreds of times over without going into the speed force.
I take issue with the assumption that "one shot" would be enough to do in the surfer. he's not made of tissue paper. Surfer can also turn himself intangible, shrink to microscopic sizes and wreck SBP from the inside...Think bigger.
Surfer can actively drain power from his opponents, he doesn't have to rely solely on the red solar to do it.
Considering the people SBP beat down, how he's punched out of the phantom zone,
irrelevant
ret-con punch
punching a time/space barrier he didn't make himself isnt really relevant. without that barrier (that he couldn't break, btw) he's unable to retcon anything. admit it- the "retcon punch" was just a convenient way for DC to explain away things in continuity that didn't make any sense. let's all let it go and move on.
how he busted out of the speed force while imprisoned under red sunlight
he needed the antimonitor's armor to do this, and matter manipulation can turn that to marshmallows in nanoseconds.
smashed a 300 meter thick wall of pure GL-made willpower
made primarily by rookie lanterns. outside of Hal, Kyle, Kilowog, Mogo and a few others, the willpower of standard lanterns isn't much to write home about.
how he blitzed flash, got to Oa at insane speed...............
he might have speed, but it's not enough to overtake the surfer. surfer is faster, guaranteed.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Considering the people SBP beat down, how he's punched out of the phantom zone, ret-con punch, how he busted out of the speed force while imprisoned under red sunlight, smashed a 300 meter thick wall of pure GL-made willpower, how he blitzed flash, got to Oa at insane speed...............Surfer is not getting a majority on SBP. Good god man, A PRE-CRISIS KRYPTONIAN LOSING 9/10 TO A MERE HERALD?! 🤨
The majority of Kryptonians would lose to the Destroyer, whom at one point was a "mere" Herald.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One Good shot of a retcon punch will have Surfer sucking wind as Norrin Rad the Zenlanian again. And then he's dead.
because of COURSE superboy prime can create time/dimensional barriers (he can't) and the effects of pounding on said barrier he didn't create in DC carries over to 616 (it didn't, and doesn't)
the retcon punch is totally irrelevant. If we're going to use abilities to the fullest though, Surfer travels back in time to when SBP was a baby, and steps on him, sparing us all a terrible crossover.
The majority of Kryptonians would lose to the Destroyer, whom at one point was a "mere" Herald.
hell yes. that thing was a beast. turning it into a herald makes it pretty much unstoppable.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
because of COURSE superboy prime can create time/dimensional barriers (he can't) and the effects of pounding on said barrier he didn't create in DC carries over to 616 (it didn't, and doesn't)the retcon punch is totally irrelevant. If we're going to use abilities to the fullest though, Surfer travels back in time to when SBP was a baby, and steps on him, sparing us all a terrible crossover.
hell yes. that thing was a beast. turning it into a herald makes it pretty much unstoppable.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Pre-crisis? I think not. A PC kryptonian would probably take the majority over the destroyer.
regular destroyer? probably. Herald of Galactus Destroyer?? probably not. Assuming it has all the standard herald powers in addition to amping the one it already has, it might be tough.
remember PC kryptonians had a pretty serious magical weakness, and the destroyer pretty much is a giant magical weapon, immune to pain and capable of pretty much anything.