Mutations

Started by chithappens3 pages

Book source but it quotes the Boston Globe ("News of human-cow cell raises a ruckus." November 14, 1998)

I honestly do not know if you can look up old newspapers on the net. I know you can in the library but yea...

weeeeeeeeeeeeird man 🙂

Human cloning from cow eggs and human cells

Cloning news circa 2005

Ok found some links... explains what I meant without me having to type it, thank God.

I could still kind of see Godzilla happening, he'd just be a little smaller.

Well after I saw the human clone shit, chimera and some other off the wall crap, nothing sci-fi is impossible to me

Originally posted by chithappens
Human cloning from cow eggs and human cells

Cloning news circa 2005

Ok found some links... explains what I meant without me having to type it, thank God.

Nice

I thought you were talking about doing something more than just messing with individual cells or whatever. I THINK anything beyond what they are doing is illegal in humans.

I'll also look up the stuff about the Korean doctor, some of the info on those links may be behind, as like I said before, one of the scientists at the forefront of human cloning research was exposed as a fraud.

Originally posted by chithappens
Well after I saw the human clone shit, chimera and some other off the wall crap, nothing sci-fi is impossible to me

Hell, in this day & age nothing is impossible in my eyes.

Originally posted by Fishy
No.

What is it with stupid questions lately? If Godzilla could have existed he probably would have. Considering the amount of nuclear testing that has happened.

🙄 He does exist. The government is just hiding him from us.

They say Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue and all that shit but never mention him cutting off the arms of Native Americans who didn't find a certain quota of gold by the end of the day or tossing babies into the forest or raping the women, so on and so on.

The powers that be are very influential. If they don't want us to know, we likely won't know unless some people do not mind risking their lives and that of their loved ones.

Originally posted by inimalist

I'll also look up the stuff about the Korean doctor, some of the info on those links may be behind, as like I said before, one of the scientists at the forefront of human cloning research was exposed as a fraud.

I heard about that but didn't even bother to really research it at all. If you find out some more please post it.

I'm curious.

Originally posted by chithappens
They say Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue and all that shit but never mention him cutting off the arms of Native Americans who didn't find a certain quota of gold by the end of the day or tossing babies into the forest or raping the women, so on and so on.

The powers that be are very influential. If they don't want us to know, we likely won't know unless some people do not mind risking their lives and that of their loved ones.

if only the powers that be had the ability to stop the media from finding out about a certain blue dress

Originally posted by chithappens
They say Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue and all that shit but never mention him cutting off the arms of Native Americans who didn't find a certain quota of gold by the end of the day or tossing babies into the forest or raping the women, so on and so on.

The powers that be are very influential. If they don't want us to know, we likely won't know unless some people do not mind risking their lives and that of their loved ones.

I had a history teacher (elementary school I think) who actually did tell us that the reason Columbus' funding was cut off was because he did so many horrible things that the queen wouldn't let him stay in charge 😂

He didn't go into much detail though.

Hehe, we will have to continue that somewhere else though. Way too off topic LOL.

I'm still wondering why some are so skeptical of huge mutations. Maybe not Godzilla size, but the government is always about three generations ahead technology wise than the public is. I'm including the use of satiliettes for anything, any sort of bandwidth, any sort of PC anything, etc.

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm still wondering why some are so skeptical of huge mutations. Maybe not Godzilla size, but the government is always about three generations ahead technology wise than the public is. I'm including the use of satiliettes for anything, any sort of bandwidth, any sort of PC anything, etc.

Huge mutations have been made an integral part of SciFi. People just naturally assume that large scale mutations are something made up for comics or movies.

Not sure why that is. Stem cell research even being public should have raised awareness but I guess not

Originally posted by chithappens
I heard about that but didn't even bother to really research it at all. If you find out some more please post it.

I'm curious.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/ap_051224_stem_cells.html

its really strange and disappointing. Apparently the vast majority of Chinese science is suspect of fraud, which makes me skeptical of all these articles I have written by people out of the university of Beijing...

edit: and another one http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/ap_051223_hwang.html

Damn, how the hell did I miss that?

Hmm, looks like I need to do some online research later. It's 2007 now; maybe something else has happened.

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm still wondering why some are so skeptical of huge mutations.
I think anyone Not in the genetic field really doesn't appreciate just what is involved in genetic manipulation. AFAIK, it isn't like flipping a switch. I would think that some traits, at least, are determined by "teams" of genes working synergistically to produce a given trait. Even then, to produce a desired trait (eg, huge size) out of context (context = rest of genome) could have unpredictable if not disastrous consequences for the overall organism. But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Mindship
I think anyone Not in the genetic field really doesn't appreciate just what is involved in genetic manipulation. AFAIK, it isn't like flipping a switch. I would think that some traits, at least, are determined by "teams" of genes working synergistically to produce a given trait. Even then, to produce a desired trait (eg, huge size) out of context (context = rest of genome) could have unpredictable if not disastrous consequences for the overall organism. But I could be wrong.

exactly. It isn't that at some point when we understand much more about genetics that we might be able to customize certain properties of creatures it would be possible, but even at this point, our clones are imperfect at best.

There have been some remarkable advances, like being able to produce spider silk in goat's milk, and in agriculture especially, but the days of being able to selectively effect qualities like size are long off.

Something like size is unfortunately mediated by much more than just a single gene. Bones and skeletal arrangements have evolved for a very limited range of variation within a species, organ placement is much the same. Hell, even the speed of conduction in nervous responses from head to toe would be alarmingly high. Were it even possible, basic biology will limit some of the excesses of what can be done with genetic engineering alone.

Re: Mutations

Originally posted by Ultimate Hulk43
Can mutations like in movies happen for real?

Like Godzilla, could an iguana really be exposed to enough radiation to make it so large? If someone gets bitten by a spider what would happen? Scientific explanations please.


Beneficial mutations are rare and at the most, they help in the case of adaptation and do not transform you in to a "Super Living Being" like you saw in Godzilla movie. In most cases, mutations produce bad results or maintain neutrality.

And exposure to massive amounts of radiation (released from the explosion of an Atomic Bomb) will prove to be fatal for a living being. Such level of Radiation is in no way friendly to any living body.