Heihachi Mishima vs Hayate and Ayane

Originally posted by Sado22
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so does that mean that Nina is old and brittle too?
its an just in-game thing, IMO. if a man hurts himself doing a flip and falling on his butt, then he really shouldn't be fighting. In fact, i'm pretty sure that used to happen in tekken1 and 2 too but i'm not too sure. fact of the matter is Hachi has shown some of the greatest feat of endurance in his later years (falling from pyramid in T3, getting faceplanted through a wall t3, smacked across room T4, honmaru T5).

~Sado

Ok IMO Hayabusa taking a noticing start up time before teleporting is just in-game. Double Standards YAY.

Nina is a woman. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

Like I told you Heihachi > Hayate, but I am sure Hayate can survive long enough to buy Ayane the time she needs to perform the tri-tower blast. Heihachi won't be shrugging that off.

Heihachi might as well just go to a retirement home for seniors who have a bad relationship with their family, and just let Jindo the hard work.

Hachi doesn't need a transformation, and the only reason why he loses this bout in my opinion is because of the odds.

that aside, hachi hasn't really been in a desperate situation. it seems the devil is only triggered once the host is suffering from extreme anguish, hate or anger.
it happened to kazuya who was betrayed and tossed off a cliff.
it happened to Jin who was betrayed and shot the living hell out of.

both of them were dying at the point they submitted to devil. hachi has never been in such a situation. most of the time when he is suffering he's usually KO'd. the most desperate we ever saw Hachi was when he was trying to escape from Jin in T4...and he lost consciousness.

~Sado

Was Hachi near death? If so and he did have a devil gene in him, why didn't he just succumb to the devil gene?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Nina is a woman. Perhaps that has something to do with it.

Originally posted by Sado22
frankly T5 has a huge LOOPHOLE in the devil story. it is possible that the devil that has possessed Jinpachi is merely a demon. also it is speculated that Jinpachi was subjected to Ogre experiments which would explains Mokujin's reanimation. who knows?
storywise, Devil came to Kazuya. it wasn't in his blood.

that aside, hachi hasn't really been in a desperate situation. it seems the devil is only triggered once the host is suffering from extreme anguish, hate or anger.
it happened to kazuya who was betrayed and tossed off a cliff.
it happened to Jin who was betrayed and shot the living hell out of.

both of them were dying at the point they submitted to devil. hachi has never been in such a situation. most of the time when he is suffering he's usually KO'd. the most desperate we ever saw Hachi was when he was trying to escape from Jin in T4...and he lost consciousness.

~Sado

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Sexist 😛 Anyway, Hachi would beat Hayate cause he's a pathetic pussy 1 on 1, and I think in a 1 on 1 fight he may even beat Ayane.

Was Hachi near death? If so and he did have a devil gene in him, why didn't he just succumb to the devil gene?

this is unlike Kaz and Jin who were both FULLY conscious and betrayed. Hachi wasn't betrayed by either of them, these two were. and so was Jinpachi.

hence ore-sama's theory holds true 😮‍💨

~Sado

That old man needs to ust die in T6 if he won't show us his real power.