Originally posted by quanchi112You do know, that the space time continuum, is real right?
ive torn ur weirdo space time continuum thing apart and it doesnt matter anyways. gds darkseid doesnt fight sbp. its reg darkseid. so ITS IRRELEVANT. ur wrong anyways. 😆
This is why I call you names, you ignore logic to make your own rules.
Originally posted by quanchi112respond to this.
absorbing peoples powers still changes his makeup. it all doesnt get converted back to ds power. he abosrbed a freaking abstract. an abstract. i created this thread. gds darkseid doesnt count. i cant beat it into ur head why. so ill just flat out deny ur request. his feats hiold no weight here i have told u why they havent. u keep saying all ds from all altenrate univserse count. that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard of. but ds losing to superman doesnt count though right. hypocrit. answer me this do siilver surfers feats from guardians of the galaxy count? does darkseid enter heaven like he does in the future? i guess he does cuz all ds feats count no matter when or where they happen.
Originally posted by starking
Hypocrite much? I shouldn't make insults, but you can?
Great, but we go by a character's abilities, rather than their "history", to determine the outcome of a match. That's great, you have an I opinion and respect that. But that DOESN'T mean your correct. George Bush's opinion, is that the Usa should stay in Iraq, and fight for our country. However, the public and the congress, DISAGREES with it.
Man...I hope you never breed. How many Darwin Awards have you accumulated in your life-time ? I'm willing to wager heavily that you hold the world record.
Originally posted by quanchi112That's so fukcing stupid, if your not at full power, even after absorbing that much, then how is that pointless, to his feats?
absorbing peoples powers still changes his makeup. it all doesnt get converted back to ds power. he abosrbed a freaking abstract. an abstract.
Originally posted by quanchi112No, you can't compare a moment of pis, to a feat that happened, to the same being, from the SAME universe.
i created this thread. gds darkseid doesnt count. i cant beat it into ur head why. so ill just flat out deny ur request. his feats hiold no weight here i have told u why they havent. u keep saying all ds from all altenrate univserse count. that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard of. but ds losing to supermn doesnt count though right. hypocrit.
Originally posted by quanchi112Well if they came from the SAME universe, then yes, because time doesn't spontaneously effect, ones abilities.
answer me this do siilver surfers feats from guardians of the galaxy count. does darkseid enter heaven like he does in the future. i guess he does cuz all ds feats count no matter whehnor where they happen.
Originally posted by BlackJackalWhat's up metaphor whore, been taking some Shakespeare, out of context, and then randomly place it, in some of your post?
Man...I hope you never breed. How many Darwin Awards have you accumulated in your life-time ? I'm willing to wager heavily that you hold the world record.
Originally posted by starkingno it doesnt. its called an alternat efuture. that is what the whole alternate word means. nver understand this. he even said foundatiojns didnt count. this is all alternate. u pick and choose what counts and doesnt. its plain to see for all. its like me saying thanos won with the ig becuz in a differnet timeleine u saw him and maelstrom fighting becuz thanos never lost it. heres why u dont count it becuz in differnt timelines differnt things happen. cause and effect. ww and superman have a child in some realities and in some they dont. u cant say it counts. u cant count all of supermans feats from all different universe. u count each ones feats from each universe. 😆
That's so fukcing stupid, if your not at full power, even after absorbing that much, then how is that pointless, to his feats? Know, you can't compare a moment of pis, to a feat that happened, to the same being, from the [b]SAME universe. Well if they came from the SAME universe, then yes, because time doesn't spontaneously effect, ones abilities. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112Go to colledge, take some class on how the universe works, the we'll talk.
no it doesnt. its called an alternat efuture. that is what the whole alternate word means. nver understand this. he even said foundatiojns didnt count. this is all alternate. u pick and choose what counts and doesnt. its plain to see for all. its like me saying thanos won with the ig becuz in a differnet timeleine u saw him and maelstrom fighting becuz thanos never lost it. heres why u dont count it becuz in differnt timelines differnt things happen. cause and effect. ww and superman have a child in some realities and in some they dont. u cant say it counts. u cant count all of supermans feats from all different universe. u count each ones feats from each universe. 😆
Originally posted by starking
You do know, that the space time continuum, is real right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_timeThis is why I call you names, you ignore logic to make your own rules.
What part of alternate or divergent is not filtering through ?
Darkseid exists at the dark center of his own universe which exists parallel to the main DCU. He is one being with a certain set of experiences, skills and powers.
Now, at some point along this time-line he dies. An unknown amount of time passes and he re-awakens from his "death" in the 30th century. In this far flung future this Darkseid will have had eons more experiences and quite possibly grown in power along with age and knowledge. This is to say that they are the same character in name only. Present Darkseid and Future Darkseid are different in that they display vastly different feats of power. It is possible that present Darkseid has the potential ability to enthrall 3 billion Daxamites, but doesn't know HOW to at the current moment. The 2 are not inter-changeable as the same character as the memories and experiences will be radically different. It is also very likely that Future Darkseid will be more powerful from his time spent on the "other-side" as most characters are invigorated by the phenomenon of resurrection.
One person+different time-frame=different person.
Case in point. Are you the same person today as the day you started grade-school ? Can you swap out your current self for your younger self ?
Originally posted by BlackJackalcosigned. its very simple. we both understand this.
What part of alternate or divergent is not filtering through ?Darkseid exists at the dark center of his own universe which exists parallel to the main DCU. He is one being with a certain set of experiences, skills and powers.
Now, at some point along this time-line he dies. An unknown amount of time passes and he re-awakens from his "death" in the 30th century. In this far flung future this Darkseid will have had eons more experiences and quite possibly grown in power along with age and knowledge. This is to say that they are the same character in name only. Present Darkseid and Future Darkseid are different in that they display vastly different feats of power. It is possible that present Darkseid has the potential ability to enthrall 3 billion Daxamites, but doesn't know HOW to at the current moment. The 2 are not inter-changeable as the same character as the memories and experiences will be radically different. It is also very likely that Future Darkseid will be more powerful from his time spent on the "other-side" as most characters are invigorated by the phenomenon of resurrection.
One person+different time-frame=different person.Case in point. Are you the same person today as the day you started grade-school ? Can you swap out your current self for your younger self ?
Originally posted by starkingif u have a muiltverse and u have multiple characters, u cant attribue all feats to ww. if she possesses the godwave in one but dies in the other which do u count. each ww gets her own set of feats and accomplishments. 😉
Btw, your logic is flawed. If you go back to the past, and kill yourself, then you'll cease to exist. Meaning my theory was correct, people from the future should be the [b]SAME exact person, unless an event changed them in someway(in Ds's case, he was weakened). [/B]
Originally posted by starking
Btw, your logic is flawed. If you go back to the past, and kill yourself, then you'll cease to exist. Meaning my theory was correct, people from the future should be the [b]SAME exact person, unless an event changed them in someway(in Ds's case, he was weakened). [/B]
So it's only a theory and not gospel. And I'd say dying is a rather significant event, don't you ?
Originally posted by BlackJackalSo you agree with me?
What part of alternate or divergent is not filtering through ?Darkseid exists at the dark center of his own universe which exists parallel to the main DCU. He is one being with a certain set of experiences, skills and powers.
Originally posted by BlackJackal
Now, at some point along this time-line he dies. An unknown amount of time passes and he re-awakens from his "death" in the 30th century. In this far flung future this Darkseid will have had eons more experiences and quite possibly grown in power along with age and knowledge. This is to say that they are the same character in name only. Present Darkseid and Future Darkseid are different in that they display vastly different feats of power. It is possible that present Darkseid has the potential ability to enthrall 3 billion Daxamites, but doesn't know HOW to at the current moment. The 2 are not inter-changeable as the same character as the memories and experiences will be radically different. It is also very likely that Future Darkseid will be more powerful from his time spent on the "other-side" as most characters are invigorated by the phenomenon of resurrection.
One person+different time-frame=different person.
Originally posted by BlackJackalNice metaphor and all, but one shall posses his same abilities, despite existing in another timeline. Meaning temporal retcons, DO NOT effect ones abilities 🙂
Case in point. Are you the same person today as the day you started grade-school ? Can you swap out your current self for your younger self ?
Originally posted by BlackJackalI was adressing Quan, but OBVIOUSLY if yourself is killed in the past, then you shouldn't exist in the future. So yeah, my point is proven, there's only one you, in the entire universe.
How is it flawed ? you don't go back in time and kill yourself, you swap places. Kind of like in Butterfly Effect.
Having abilities doesn't mean knowing the full extent of them.
It's more a combination of knowledge and experience than anything else. New applications for old powers. Figuring out exactly what you can do or in this case, returning from the Source to a corporeal existence, bringing that knowledge and experience back with him. So my argument is based around that aspect of temporal phenomenon. I've grown up with Dr. Who and Star Trek, I know how these things work.