Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirli saw raker beat down ds. ds had no hits in before was saved. i saw what doomsday did to apokolips. supes had to save ds. without supes interference. ds would have never regained apokolips. he was dying. imagine mangog on apokolips. now imagine betay ray bill, the frost giants along with ymir, loki, and the destroyer. yeah i left out loads of enemies and apokolips would be in trouble.
So you don't think the new Gods' have a chance yet you make the thread? I tell you what, DS stalemated the Guardians on his own with no help from highfather. And I am for damned sure the guardians could beat the crap out of Asgard. There's the verdict right there. NG for the win. One Geneisis Box wins the fight as well.
Originally posted by quanchi112
i saw raker beat down ds. ds had no hits in before was saved. i saw what doomsday did to apokolips. supes had to save ds. without supes interference. ds would have never regained apokolips. he was dying. imagine mangog on apokolips. now imagine betay ray bill, the frost giants along with ymir, loki, and the destroyer. yeah i left out loads of enemies and apokolips would be in trouble.
You are a ****ing broken record. The point is, the guardians tried to erase apok out of existance and couldn't. They had to truce becuz they couldn't do it. I can imagine Mangog getting his ass kicked on apok. I can also imagine Ds creating Thousands of Brimstones. Did you forget he can do that? Yup you did. He makes them at a whim. Or all those Superman lvl parademons. ANd let's not forget about the Father boxes. A grand father box somewhere and a genesis box. Also, let's not forget, DS now has the power to seriously upgrade his Gods. New Gods for the win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
i saw raker beat down ds. ds had no hits in before was saved. i saw what doomsday did to apokolips. supes had to save ds. without supes interference. ds would have never regained apokolips. he was dying. imagine mangog on apokolips. now imagine betay ray bill, the frost giants along with ymir, loki, and the destroyer. yeah i left out loads of enemies and apokolips would be in trouble.
They are called lowshowings. I saw Thanos getting arrested by cops(cuffed and everything) and i saw Thanos chasing Mantis in a Helicopter that said Thanos on the side. I saw Thanos getting owned by smoke but that doesnt mean i bring it up everytime i debate someone.
You really hate Darkseid dont you?
Originally posted by KRS-Brandonno i dont hate darkseid. darkseid losing to superman on more than one occasion and thanos flying around in a chopper robbin banks are two totally different things. i dont bring up darkseid stalking people in barns do i? its utter crap darkseid shouldnt act like jason voorhees while thanos shouldnt act like some bank robber. him losing to superman isnt pis. its the way supes is portrayed over in dc. supes is always taking down powerful characters. so why excuse just darkseid. i do like darkseid as a character. i think hes very cool. i see darkseid for what he is. thanos's inferior. 😆
They are called lowshowings. I saw Thanos getting arrested by cops(cuffed and everything) and i saw Thanos chasing Mantis in a Helicopter that said Thanos on the side. I saw Thanos getting owned by smoke but that doesnt mean i bring it up everytime i debate someone.You really hate Darkseid dont you?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlwhy did darkseid get raped by doomsday then. why didnt someone use a genesis box. why was his whole planet and him raped by doomsday. u cant argue facts. darkseid in theory is tough on paper. but when he gets involved physically he usually gets tko'd.
You are a ****ing broken record. The point is, the guardians tried to erase apok out of existance and couldn't. They had to truce becuz they couldn't do it. I can imagine Mangog getting his ass kicked on apok. I can also imagine Ds creating Thousands of Brimstones. Did you forget he can do that? Yup you did. He makes them at a whim. Or all those Superman lvl parademons. ANd let's not forget about the Father boxes. A grand father box somewhere and a genesis box. Also, let's not forget, DS now has the power to seriously upgrade his Gods. New Gods for the win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
no i dont hate darkseid. darkseid losing to superman on more than one occasion and thanos flying around in a chopper robbin banks are two totally different things. i dont bring up darkseid stalking people in barns do i?
Actually you do bring that up pretty constantly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
its utter crap darkseid shouldnt act like jason voorhees while thanos shouldnt act like some bank robber. him losing to superman isnt pis. its the way supes is portrayed over in dc. supes is always taking down powerful characters. so why excuse just darkseid.
Good point. You've just admited that nobody is immune to Superman's jobber aura.
What you miss is that there's no reason he would fight someone like Thanos in the same way he would fight Superman. DS has a fecking lot of power (he's taken down gods under his own power whether you like it or not). The way he fights depends on his opponent which is why he loses to Superman nowadays.
When he fights more powerful people he fights on a different level. Thanos or Odin or Highfather or what have you are noticeably more powerful than Superman and as such will get a different response from him. His pseudo-honor is a weakness against Superman and it hardly applies when he's fighting people who operate on a different level.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoswell there have been so may posts on this topic. i keep bringing up ds low showings while ds fans bring up high showings. i dont get this jobber aura thing. when superman lost to ds in the past where was his jobber aura then. i admit dc is ridicuolus sometimes with superman. but what has happened we cannot change. the reason ds lost to superman is becuz it came to blows. with powers, ds has supes beat but if his omega or his powers fail to do what he intended to do then ds can be beaten down physically. his psuedo honor? i dont get that in apokolips now it was fair. are u saying that ds needed to cheat to beat supes. they fought a fair faight one on one. couldnt be any more legit than that. that is when ds admitted he lost and was humiliated. i understand what ur saying but u have to agree supes is tougher than ds with regards to hand to hand. supes wouldnt have a thing with hand to hand over thanos. thanos is a monster with his fists while ds avoids fistacuffs.
Actually you do bring that up pretty constantly.Good point. You've just admited that nobody is immune to Superman's jobber aura.
What you miss is that there's no reason he would fight someone like Thanos in the same way he would fight Superman. DS has a fecking lot of power (he's taken down gods under his own power whether you like it or not). The way he fights depends on his opponent which is why he loses to Superman nowadays.
When he fights more powerful people he fights on a different level. Thanos or Odin or Highfather or what have you are noticeably more powerful than Superman and as such will get a different response from him. His pseudo-honor is a weakness against Superman and it hardly applies when he's fighting people who operate on a different level.
Originally posted by quanchi112
well there have been so may posts on this topic. i keep bringing up ds low showings while ds fans bring up high showings. i dont get this jobber aura thing. when superman lost to ds in the past where was his jobber aura then. i admit dc is ridicuolus sometimes with superman. but what has happened we cannot change. the reason ds lost to superman is becuz it came to blows. with powers, ds has supes beat but if his omega or his powers fail to do what he intended to do then ds can be beaten down physically. his psuedo honor? i dont get that in apokolips now it was fair. are u saying that ds needed to cheat to beat supes. they fought a fair faight one on one. couldnt be any more legit than that. that is when ds admitted he lost and was humiliated. i understand what ur saying but u have to agree supes is tougher than ds with regards to hand to hand. supes wouldnt have a thing with hand to hand over thanos. thanos is a monster with his fists while ds avoids fistacuffs.
People aren't bringing up just his high showings. DS's average just happens to be very high.
Darkseid "honor" makes him fight on the level of his opponent which is why he goes H2H with Superman or fires the OE to match Superman's HV rather than going around it. Superman is almost unstoppable in a H2H fight, he's good enough that he could take Thanos or Darkseid or Drax or whoever in such a match up.
Darkseid simply won't go h2h with Thanos (or Odin 🙄 ) because he's not an idiot. He would lose that match up currently. He still has a great number of other powers that he can and would use against people more powerful than Superman.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaossome people do just bring up his high showings. superman isnt good enough to beat thanos in a hand to hand fight no way in hell. im saying with thanos vs darkseid it would boil down to a close encounter. and thanos would win hands down. i wish ds would get more physical and not rely on his omega as much as he does.
People aren't bringing up just his high showings. DS's average just happens to be very high.Darkseid "honor" makes him fight on the level of his opponent which is why he goes H2H with Superman or fires the OE to match Superman's HV rather than going around it. Superman is almost unstoppable in a H2H fight, he's good enough that he could take Thanos or Darkseid or Drax or whoever in such a match up.
Darkseid simply won't go h2h with Thanos (or Odin 🙄 ) because he's not an idiot. He would lose that match up currently. He still has a great number of other powers that he can and would use against people more powerful than Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
superman isnt good enough to beat thanos in a hand to hand fight no way in hell.
Sure he is. Wanna try comparing feats? 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
im saying with thanos vs darkseid it would boil down to a close encounter. and thanos would win hands down. i wish ds would get more physical and not rely on his omega as much as he does.
How can you say that he overuses the OE and would get into a physical fight?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoswell who has beaten down thanos physically. who using their fists has just beat him down? i wish ds would get more physical. why have him fire that omega all the time. have him beat some people down. not hand waves. beatdowns.
Sure he is. Wanna try comparing feats? 🙂How can you say that he overuses the OE and would get into a physical fight?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoscould we start a feat war thread. would it not get shut down. superman might have more feats than thanos sinces hes been in 20 times as many comics. but thanos has bigger feats than superman. go read kingdom sequel to kingdom come. great book on supes. 😆
I'd rather see a feat war 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
could we start a feat war thread. would it not get shut down. superman might have more feats than thanos sinces hes been in 20 times as many comics. but thanos has bigger feats than superman. go read kingdom sequel to kingdom come. great book on supes. 😆
Better feats? I think not 🙂
You mean where the guy with the power of 5 gods killed Superman over and over? How the hell does that say anything bad about him? Gog would destroy Thanos or current DS.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaoshas supes ever taken over the universe. i think not. thanos has. 😛 i love that story. he killed supes over and over again. 😆 i loved the cover. i have always hated superman. but i give him the credit he deserves.
Better feats? I think not 🙂You mean where the guy with the power of 5 gods killed Superman over and over? How the hell does that say anything bad about him? Gog would destroy Thanos or current DS.