Controversy rant

it annoys the hell out me!!!! religions are so threatened by something that hasn't effected anything. I mean for goodness sake,can a person have an imagination or does their world have to be taken over by religion.

wikipedia

Harsh criticism against the books also comes from the official Roman Catholic exorcist of Rome, Gabriele Amorth, who believes that, "Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness, the devil."[26] He further told the Daily Mail that the books make a false distinction between black and white magic, while, in reality, the distinction "does not exist, because magic is always a turn to the devil." Amorth believes that the books can be a bad influence on children by getting them interested in the occult.

Disney is the devils domain obviously..it is were the magic live. God hates magic. it just agravates me. to get permission to read the book at certain schools...ugh..

I mean I am of a cathiloc upbringing and my parents are fine with the books. the controversy is too strong

any comments?

Do you mean you want to start a topic about Harry Potter and religion, and the controversy therein?

yes I do

Not a very good thread starter really 😬

Surprisingly I don't think I've seen a thread souly based on this topic.

Really. In my eyes. It isn't much of religions fault. You just have the fanatics out there who overdo it.

Harry Potter is pro-Christianity. It's a Christian tale. Harry Potter is a Christian hero, and no, not in a derogetry way; he exemplifies all the virtues of Christianity.

However, you can't blame these fundamentalists. The Christian meaning ain't particuarly explicit, but Harry Potter would never have been succesful if it was not. All you can do is pity these peoples ignorance.

Laura Mallory is going straight to her very own Special Hell...

Originally posted by exanda kane
Harry Potter is pro-Christianity. It's a Christian tale. Harry Potter is a Christian hero, and no, not in a derogetry way; he exemplifies all the virtues of Christianity.

However, you can't blame these fundamentalists. The Christian meaning ain't particuarly explicit, but Harry Potter would never have been succesful if it was not. All you can do is pity these peoples ignorance.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Harry Potter is pro-Christianity. It's a Christian tale. Harry Potter is a Christian hero, and no, not in a derogetry way; he exemplifies all the virtues of Christianity.

However, you can't blame these fundamentalists. The Christian meaning ain't particuarly explicit, but Harry Potter would never have been succesful if it was not. All you can do is pity these peoples ignorance.

good argument.I do not think it is like uber christan. it does represents some qualities of other religions. the characters do celebrate christmas. magic is no more then a harmless exstenstion of their characters. harry is not worshiping the devil or anything. that is the complete opposiate (sp)

Besides I highly doubt one morning,JK rowling woke up and said " I think I shall write a book that shall lead children away from god and create an occult all to myself!"

This is why I don't partake in any religion whatsoever. I hear it's good for real estate, though.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Those kinda comments ruin books for people.

Yeah, well, the truth can be a hard hitter occasionally.

I would say that it's an opinion that Harry Potter is a Christian hero - he certainly does have elements of "Christ-like" about him, fighting temptation, choosing what is right instead of what is easy, but I feel Rowling wanted to instead make the point that all of us, everyday people, could do the same thing.

or.... there is a hero is every one of us.... But as DD said " its the choice we make that counts

Originally posted by siriuswriter
I would say that it's an opinion that Harry Potter is a Christian hero - he certainly does have elements of "Christ-like" about him, fighting temptation, choosing what is right instead of what is easy, but I feel Rowling wanted to instead make the point that all of us, everyday people, could do the same thing.

Your contradicting yourself. Everyone fights temptation, everyone must attempt to choose between the easy and the right, yet is this exactly what Christ had to do. So it is "Christ-like", as you put it, despite yours truly not even suggestion that direct a comparison. It's the looosing of innocence, the gaining of experience as Blake would have it.

Loyalty, sacrifice and selflessness are all virtues in the world of Harry Potter, the very virtues the doctrine tries to teach. You can attempt to ignore the Christian meaning underlining the book, maybe because you think it's "cool" or "neat" to hate religion, but Harry Potter isn't about indoctrinating you into the Church, but making sure kids grow up in the best possible way.

The triumph of Harry Potter is that Rowling manages to get past the "watchful dragons" of the population with a generally fascinating tale, so the message is subliminal. There's nothing wrong with that.

frankly i don't care what others think because i like to read the books. If some religious nuts want to say it heresy then thats fine by me.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Your contradicting yourself. Everyone fights temptation, everyone must attempt to choose between the easy and the right, yet is this exactly what Christ had to do. So it is "Christ-like", as you put it, despite yours truly not even suggestion that direct a comparison. It's the looosing of innocence, the gaining of experience as Blake would have it.

Loyalty, sacrifice and selflessness are all virtues in the world of Harry Potter, the very virtues the doctrine tries to teach. You can attempt to ignore the Christian meaning underlining the book, maybe because you think it's "cool" or "neat" to hate religion, but Harry Potter isn't about indoctrinating you into the Church, but making sure kids grow up in the best possible way.

The triumph of Harry Potter is that Rowling manages to get past the "watchful dragons" of the population with a generally fascinating tale, so the message is subliminal. There's nothing wrong with that.

Originally posted by ndfreak
frankly i don't care what others think because i like to read the books. If some religious nuts want to say it heresy then thats fine by me.

Only those that are ignorant of the true values that Christianity is trying to teach will say that its heresy

Originally posted by The Phantom
Personally, those I think she just wants people to learn those virtues. Picking them out as "Oh, this is Christianity. Look people, it has virtues of Christianity" just kinda bugs me. I'm pretty sure she didn't have Christianity on her mind the entire time she wrote the books.

Then her Inkling aspirations have won the day and her readers are none the wiser. Your attitude is exactly the "watchful dragon" C.S Lewis once wrote an essay about. People don't like being preached too.

exactly

Originally posted by exanda kane
Then her Inkling aspirations have won the day and her readers are none the wiser. Your attitude is exactly the "watchful dragon" C.S Lewis once wrote an essay about. People don't like being preached too.

Vague.