Windu & Dooku vs. Yoda & Jango Fett

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Windu & Dooku vs. Yoda & Jango Fett

Quite unlikely situation, but in my opinion they are quite tied.
As much as I hate, I'll have to go with Yoda and Jango on this one.
I think that Yoda is stronger then they, but only if he fights them one at a time. If they are combined they would destroy Yoda.
But don't forget about Jango, and his arsenal of weaponry...Flamethrowers can be nasty.... 😄

Team one.

Team one wins, no question. Dooku already proved himself capable of putting up a decent fight against Yoda while in the film Mace pwns Jango. Jango's jetpack was broken, in this case it isn't, but the fight still wouldn't last to long - Kenobi would have beaten Jango if Boba hadn't been helping from inside the Slave 1 and Mace is far stronger than AOTC Kenobi is. He would kill Jango far more quickly than Yoda could kill Dooku. Or else Dooku could just fry Jango with lightning while Mace holds off Yoda.

Once Jango is demolished, Mace and Dooku together beat Yoda comfortably or even easily. Dooku could just fight to the death while Mace watches and then Yoda would be to tired to beat Mace, who is nearly as strong as Yoda in the first place. Or else they could switch off, as soon as Yoda nearly gets past Dooku's defenses Dooku runs away and Mace charges in and if Yoda nearly beats him then he switches with Dooku. Yoda would get tired this way but yeah, team one wins for sure.

Yeah...But on the other hand it's quite hard to fight against the strongest Jedi, and at the same time watch for Jango's missiles.
Even Dooku's form of fighting doesn't do well against the missiles from blaster weapons, in other words it isn't even designed to do that.

Yeah...Now, that you stated the whole scenario what would happen, I guess my money would also go with the team 2. But it would be quite a fight 😄

I agree that Mace can take Jango, and I agree that Yoda can't take Mace and Dooku at the same time. But there is only a 50% chance that the scenario will be like that. The rest of the 50% chance is that it will be Yoda vs. Mace and Dooku vs. Jango. Then Dooku is stuck with Jango, and I have my doubts about the ability of any makashi user to fight Jango. Dooku might loose. Then it would be Jango and Windu vs. Yoda. That would be an even closer fight then the other scenario. I don't see any possible way to decide who would win that one. It would be another fifty-fifty fight.

Since that scenario only has a fifty-fifty chance anyway, though, I'd still give Windu and Jango a 75% chance, give or take.

Well...I like to think, that it would be something like this.

Yoda would try to hold his own against the 2 Jedi masters, and Jango would be above them...All over the place anyway, because of the jets. So he would be giving Yoda backup with his precise shots...
The problem is, that he has no real defense against force, so he is open to any lightning, grabbs...

Mace and Dooku

both Mace and Dooku could hold off yoda while the other kills Jango
then it would be a two on one fight that yoda would lose

Yeah...But on the other hand it's quite hard to fight against the strongest Jedi, and at the same time watch for Jango's missiles.

They wouldn't need to. One of them fight the strongest Jedi while the otehr pwns Jango, and then they double-team against the strongest jedi and take him down hard.he

Even Dooku's form of fighting doesn't do well against the missiles from blaster weapons, in other words it isn't even designed to do that.

Then he could fight Yoda while Mace pwns Jango, and then they double-team Yoda and take him down hard.

Yeah...Now, that you stated the whole scenario what would happen, I guess my money would also go with the team 2.

You mean team 1, right?

The rest of the 50% chance is that it will be Yoda vs. Mace and Dooku vs. Jango. Then Dooku is stuck with Jango, and I have my doubts about the ability of any makashi user to fight Jango. Dooku might loose.

That's absolutely riduculous. For one thing, yes, Makashi isn't as good against blaster wielding opponents as, say, Soresu or Djem So are, but just because one used Makashi doesn't mean they can't block blaster bolts, Dooku's still probably just as good as blocking blaster bolts as AOTC Kenobi is, and he blocked them fine from Jango. And he wouldn't have to use hsi saber, he could just fry Jango's ass with lightning. To even think that Jango > Dooku is riduculous.

Yoda would try to hold his own against the 2 Jedi masters, and Jango would be above them...All over the place anyway, because of the jets. So he would be giving Yoda backup with his precise shots...

Yes, and there's just one problem with that scenario - Mace and Dooku wouldn't be dumb enough to engage Yoda 2 on 1 while Jango's still alive. And Dooku/Mace/Yoda would be moving so fast that Jango might do as much damage as he'd do good, shooting at them, and his missle would likely doom all of them. Bad idea. A better idea would have been to put Maul in this fight or Sora Bulq or something, General Grievous ect. Cause Jango won't last more than 30 seconds against either Dooku or Mace.

Team one probably wins, but you have to understand that Mace's Vaapad will not work in the same fashion that it did against Darth Sidious. Yoda is a Jedi, therefore he will not fall susceptible to the dark side properties as Sidious did.

I could see Yoda and Jango winning, because Yoda is - as AC, Advent, and myself have proven - a firm two or three steps above Dooku. If Jango is on his A-game, he could prove to be a sizeable distraction enough to incapacitate or occupy the combatants. Remember: Mace pwned Jango in a melee confrontation. If Jango has his jetpack, he is capable of mobility that would keep him as a threat.

Assuming that Dooku or Mace did crush Jango, though, they would be hardpressed to defeat Yoda. One of 'em might even die.

Dude, Dooku could just zap Jango or Mace could Force Crush him, there's no way Jango and Yoda even have a chance. The sw.com databank says that Yoda and Mace are "on par", aka equals. And Dooku >>> Jango.

Yeah, i think that team 1 may win but if them, it would be a VERY hard fight. First, mace can't just use yoda's power against him, which is a huge disadvantage... Hmm, i think this is a really tough fight, i mean, yoda with boba fett helping him, flying around, sending blasts and missiles... I don't know, really.

Originally posted by kamhal
Yeah, i think that team 1 may win but if them, it would be a VERY hard fight. First, mace can't just use yoda's power against him, which is a huge disadvantage... Hmm, i think this is a really tough fight, i mean, yoda with boba fett helping him, flying around, sending blasts and missiles... I don't know, really.

Okay, yes, Yoda isn't a darksider, but that doesn't mean Mace is way weaker against him than against Sidious, it only makes a small difference.

And it's Jango, not Boba. And, as I already stated before, Yoda will NOT be fighting Dooku and Mace 2 on 1 while Jango shoots at them:

Originally Posted by darthsith19
Yes, and there's just one problem with that scenario - Mace and Dooku wouldn't be dumb enough to engage Yoda 2 on 1 while Jango's still alive. And Dooku/Mace/Yoda would be moving so fast that Jango might do as much damage as he'd do good, shooting at them, and his missle would likely doom all of them. Bad idea. A better idea would have been to put Maul in this fight or Sora Bulq or something, General Grievous ect. Cause Jango won't last more than 30 seconds against either Dooku or Mace.
it only makes a small difference.

Proof?

Originally posted by Gideon
Proof?

Well, why can't Mace use Yoda's power against him anyways, Yoda still fights offensively. Proof that it makes a huge difference?

Because yoda is not a darksider... Also, windu said yoda was quite better then himself both with the force and with his lightsaber. I agree that windu is not that far from yoda, but without his vaadpad, windu's lightsaber skill would be closer to dooku's one rather then closer to sidious or yoda's one.

it is also possible that Mace and Dooku would team up right away to kill yoda, since they would all be in close combat together it would be hard for Jango to shoot them without risking hitting yoda
after they would easily kill Jango

Because yoda is not a darksider...

Where does it say that only dark siders can have their power used against them?

Also, windu said yoda was quite better then himself both with the force and with his lightsaber.

He also states that Depa is stronger than he is, yet when they fight he is injured and trying not to hurt her and is still the last one standing. He also states that he couldn't beat Kar Vastor on his best day, yet he does beat Kar on what he calls one of his worst days. To top it off, in the ROTS script/novel 9can't remember which one) he states that Kenobi has better saber skills than he does. The point is, Mace is very humble about his skills and just because he says someone is stronger than him doesn't mean that it's true. The databank, on the otehr hand, says that Mace and Yoda are on par, aka, their equals.

I agree that windu is not that far from yoda, but without his vaadpad, windu's lightsaber skill would be closer to dooku's one rather then closer to sidious or yoda's one.

Even if that was true, he and Dooku would still win.

I'll copy the book's statements when I get back.

Originally posted by tulakhordpwns
Mace and Dooku

both Mace and Dooku could hold off yoda while the other kills Jango
then it would be a two on one fight that yoda would lose

I think you are underestimating Jango's marksmanship, one of them would need to pay attention to Jango or he could easily shoot one of them in the back. Plus Yoda's size would make it a little harder for Jango to team kill. But I do agree Mace and Dooku takes this.

but the three saberist aren't going to be standing in 1 spot, they will be moving around very fast