Volgin vs. The Boss
This fight takes place on top of Mount Olympus as shown in God of War 2. Boss gets a knife and her Patriot Gun, Volgin has his bullets wrapped around his torso like in the game but they are unlimited to make it fair. I say Volgin wins. An argument with Superboy Prime made me make this thread.
I was not arguing about who would win in a fight, but...the more MGS threads the better.
Just to clear my point I was telling you that Volgin feared The Boss out of respect. Not to mention that she put him on his ass in a second with 2 moves. I believe my point to be true because of the way he reacts when The Boss approaches him in hostile fashion after he implied she was a traitor.
As for the battle perse there is little doubt that The Boss is leagues above Volgin in skill. But Volgin is insane. I still remember all it took to put the russian mother ****er down.
List of things it took to put Volgin down:
1.A confrontation with Snake involving CQC takedowns and bullets
2. Having the indsides of Shagohod explode on his ass
3. being shot up by Snake
4. Being struck by lightning which light him on fire
5. Having the bullets tied around him go off.
Yeah, as far as durability goes, Volgin takes it.
This is the way I like to do things.
Strength: Volgin was able to punch holes in the hull of the Shagohod, which RPGs couldn't blemish.
Speed: Boss, although not by much.
Striking: Volgin, his punches are very powerful and have good speed as do the occasional kick.
Grappling: Boss certainly exibits more skill with grappling, though Volgin's massive strength would give him some advantage in this department. Also when we see him beating Snake we see some grapples that involve punching too, though Boss has more skill and has a better advantage in this department.
Equipment: Boss has a powerful gun which fires rapid shots with unlimited ammo and a knife, Volgin has bullets that he ignites with his electricity and fires them with his hands, he can also use weak electricity so that he can control multiple bullets and then fire them all by surging them with more electricity.
Brutality: Volgin, he makes Ocelot look like a carebear in terms of cruelty and brutality.
Versatility: Volgin has a constant charge of 10,000,000 volts in his body, fires bullets with his hands, and stuff. He has much more ways to win than Boss.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
This is the way I like to do things.Strength: Volgin was able to punch holes in the hull of the Shagohod, which RPGs couldn't blemish.
Speed: Boss, although not by much.
Striking: Volgin, his punches are very powerful and have good speed as do the occasional kick.
Grappling: Boss certainly exibits more skill with grappling, though Volgin's massive strength would give him some advantage in this department. Also when we see him beating Snake we see some grapples that involve punching too, though Boss has more skill and has a better advantage in this department.
Equipment: Boss has a powerful gun which fires rapid shots with unlimited ammo and a knife, Volgin has bullets that he ignites with his electricity and fires them with his hands, he can also use weak electricity so that he can control multiple bullets and then fire them all by surging them with more electricity.
Brutality: Volgin, he makes Ocelot look like a carebear in terms of cruelty and brutality.
Versatility: Volgin has a constant charge of 10,000,000 volts in his body, fires bullets with his hands, and stuff. He has much more ways to win than Boss.
IMO a well placed punch can do a lot more than an ultra powerful punch. True Volgin is the power puncher of the two, but The Boss will know where to hit to paralize an opponent. That's the concept of CQC and why it is so dangerous: taking out an opponent with minimal effort, speed and effciency.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeVolgin has quite the skill in punching too, Boss' striking style aims for ideal places to hit, Volgin's style as seen in cutscenes is similar to boxing and it really doesn't matter where Volgin hits her, a bone is getting broken.
IMO a well placed punch can do a lot more than an ultra powerful punch. True Volgin is the power puncher of the two, but The Boss will know where to hit to paralize an opponent. That's the concept of CQC and why it is so dangerous: taking out an opponent with minimal effort, speed and effciency.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeIn the cutscene he was not trying to kill him or cause mortal wounds, during the fight a punch from Volgin will break a bone, and Volgin punched through the hull of the friggin Shagohod, he can break bones. Also it's true that Boss' strikes are more effective, but Volgin's great strength makes up for it, and he's pretty fast with the punches too.
IMO The Boss's strike method >>> Volgin's because of it's effciency, but whatever.And...I don't think he will be breaking any bones. He did a lot of damage, but he never broke Snake's skull and believe me...he punched him a [b]lot
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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
In the cutscene he was not trying to kill him or cause mortal wounds, during the fight a punch from Volgin will break a bone, and Volgin punched through the hull of the friggin Shagohod, he can break bones. Also it's true that Boss' strikes are more effective, but Volgin's great strength makes up for it, and he's pretty fast with the punches too.
I know I would've broken a couple Snake's bones if I was torturing him. But perhaps it's just a matter of taste.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeWell maybe Kojima didn't have him do that for plot purposes or Volgin is a sick weirdo that refrains from using full strength so it lasts longer. I can't believe I forgot this, Volgin can also charge his punches with electricity to cause damage to where he's punching and throughout his whole body.
I know I would've broken a couple Snake's bones if I was torturing him. But perhaps it's just a matter of taste.
It's entirely up in the air for me... Volgin has electrical and Electromagnetics on his side, he can deflect the Bosses fire from himself, but on that same token, the Boss is incredibly accurate with her Patriot to the point where she can shoot down Snakes fully automatic LMG fire one handed.
Close combat grapples and countermovements belong to the Boss... Striking ability though is Volgins' as well as the occasional "Blanka" trap he uses to thwart grapples. That and his many bullet based techniques, like firing 8+ rifle rounds from hishand, or 5+ bullet electrically charged straight punch, or even better, the circular bullet throw.
Distance atacks are dead even, sinche Volgins bullets can be deflected, and his lightning bolts can be shot down (Ocelot did it with a Revolver easily, and the Boss seems to be a better shot in-game) But Volgin's EM shield will stop Patriot rounds.
Still... I can't shake someof the funnier weaknesses Volgin has, like the Raikov mask, the Frog weakness, the Green Glowcap weakness (This fungus absorbs Volgin';s lightning), or tossing a bucket of water on him (Interrogating one of the goldiers in the Shagohod hangar revealed this to me, it's also why he hates the rain.
I think the Bosses speed and experience would overpower Volgin's electricity and strength.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroShe doesn't get those, and her experience is greater and so is her speed, though it's by no means superhuman, I think you forget exactly HOW MUCH punishment Volgin's body took to be put down. I can honestly say Volgin is the most durable character in the series with the exception of Vamp.
Still... I can't shake someof the funnier weaknesses Volgin has, like the Raikov mask, the Frog weakness, the Green Glowcap weakness (This fungus absorbs Volgin';s lightning), or tossing a bucket of water on him (Interrogating one of the goldiers in the Shagohod hangar revealed this to me, it's also why he hates the rain.I think the Bosses speed and experience would overpower Volgin's electricity and strength.
His forcefield cuts down on his stamina, but anyway I believe boss could take this. Honestly, if she's as good of a soldier as they say than she should figure out a way to defeat Volgin.
Strength: Volgin has more raw power, but Boss uses her power more efficently than Volgin ever will. She could do more damage with less effort by a mile in my opinion. By using CQC she could break every bone in his body.
Speed: Meh, I give it to boss, Volgin wasn't show casing much.
Power: Volgin can discharge what I believe to be around 100,000 volts of raw electricity, Create an electric force field, Has fire arms built into the suit, and can use Electricity in pugilism.
Boss has emense fighting knowlede, and the know how to cripple a human being easily.
Honestly it comes down on who can use their power best, Volgin has more destructive power while boss is more versatile.
Durability: Volgin, no need to explain
Experience: Boss, she isn't called the "Goddess Of The Battlefield" for nothing.