Originally posted by Entity
Strength is hardly all there is to a fight. Both Angel and Angelus have defeated Buffy as well. I say Angel is greater than Buffy because he's been doing stuff like that for a couple hundred years and has faced on regular occasions people Buffy has barely defeated or only beat with his and her friend's help.And Yes Spike did rough Angel up a bit once in the last series but he was being mentally screwed with and the whole fight was set up to mess with his head without either him or Spike knowing about it. They were both just pawns that time. And how many times has Angel owned Spike before that one? 😕
Blade vs Buffy - Yea he's as strong and fast as her. Even much greater in the movie by far. And your right he's definitely got a better arsenal.
Blade vs Angel - They are about even in every category. Semi equal Strength, speed, and reflexes. Hell Blade experience is almost equal to Angel considering how many years he spent just in seclusion form the world after the regained his soul and conscience. All and all it would depend on which versions.
Angelus = Movie Blade > Angel > Comic Blade! IMO
Everyone roughed up Spike as he was teh jobber before he gained his soul.
I find it funny how the only Vampire to kill not one but two slayers hand to hand folds so easily to Angel and Buffy.
IIRC Spike beat Angel cause according to Angel he wanted it more, it also proved that Spike with a purpose is bad ass.
Even with the Experience I don't see Angel as >>>>>>Buffy, he could possibly be slightly above her hand to hand wise but your first post suggested that he was leagues ahead of her which he cleary is not.
Angel proved he could handle a slayer when he took on Faith but I wouldn't say he was leagues ahead of Buffy or Faith.
I think Buffy would fair better against Blade than Angel or Angleus, just based on the fact that all Blades arsenal is for taking Vampires down and taking them down fast.
Movie Blades taken on Dracula hand to hand as well as Reapers and Frost, Angelus or Angel isn't in their league imo.
Originally posted by Hercules
Everyone roughed up Spike as he was teh jobber before he gained his soul.I find it funny how the only Vampire to kill not one but two slayers hand to hand folds so easily to Angel and Buffy.
IIRC Spike beat Angel cause according to Angel he wanted it more, it also proved that Spike with a purpose is bad ass.
Even with the Experience I don't see Angel as >>>>>>Buffy, he could possibly be slightly above her hand to hand wise but your first post suggested that he was leagues ahead of her which he cleary is not.
Angel proved he could handle a slayer when he took on Faith but I wouldn't say he was leagues ahead of Buffy or Faith.
I think Buffy would fair better against Blade than Angel or Angleus, just based on the fact that all Blades arsenal is for taking Vampires down and taking them down fast.
Movie Blades taken on Dracula hand to hand as well as Reapers and Frost, Angelus or Angel isn't in their league imo.
Exactly!!! Half of Blades arsenal is built to destroy the undead. Last time I checked Blade is Still a vamp. A daywalker yes? Was it ever confirmed that he CAN be killed with a stake to the heart? If yes then why can't Buffy get 5 or 6/10?
Originally posted by Hitman911
Exactly!!! Half of Blades arsenal is built to destroy the undead. Last time I checked Blade is Still a vamp. A daywalker yes? Was it ever confirmed that he CAN be killed with a stake to the heart? If yes then why can't Buffy get 5 or 6/10?
Those weapons Blade has can easily kill a human too...those bullets are still sharp...Buffy couldn't stand up to that. That sword would slice her in half too. If you look at on screen skill....Buffy is so much slower than Blade...Blade could dice her up before she knew what hit her.
OK I'll admit Angel isn't like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Buffy. That was mostly just my opinion of them and a comment about them altogether. Actually in skill and all I'd say its more accurately Angel >> Buffy. Maybe a even slighter than that. Its was mostly just a statement I didn't expect to be analyzed so closely. Anyway
Yea Buffy's beat some badasses but so has Angel and they've both worked each other over a few times but Angelus had owned Buffy and just toyed with her during his whole run basically. Which shows that allot of her beating him is really just about Angel's natural holding back. And if Angel/Angelus ever really let lose and didn't want to play games but just to have her dead. I'm bettin she'd either be dead or so close she'd wanna be.
As for Buffy taken out Blade so easily because she'd made to kill vampires. Well normally I'd agree with your logic. Because on the surface it sounds pretty damn concrete and sound but if you know your vampires then you also know were talking about 2 entirely different breeds. Buffy has tons of experience dealing with her vamps which just says to me she'd attack Blade with the same strategy. If she does that she's gonna die. One because marvel's vamps aren't anything like Buffy's and wood ain't gonna do squat. Neither is crosses, or holy water. Not even to mention the fact Blade is immune to all their weaknesses anyway. So all she can do to kill him would be either decapitate him or burn his ass and the fire would take to long for someone like Blade.
Same goes with either Blade or Angelus fighting each other. They don't know each other like they would think they did.
I'm a big fan of the Buffy series but movie Blade anyway (I don't really know the comics) would beat her due to his weapons alone. All buffy really has is a stake.
If it was hand to hand, that's tougher. I would give buffy the strength advantage. she has bent metal with her bare hands before, punch through brick, etc. Blade seems to have better skill though. If this was on a tv show or something I would say buffy wins cus she seems to have more "i'm beaten half to death but I suddenly find the strength to kill my opponent in 1 hit" but in a neutral arena i'd give a slight majority to blade. (Been a long time since I saw the movies though I can be swayed either way
Originally posted by Hitman911I just always assumed it was only things that both humans and vampires are vulnerable to.
Does anyone know Blade's weaknesses.???
ex. Silver Stake through the heart. Thou both sides may cancel this out entirely.
Decapitation. He ain't surviving that.
Fire. Can't see him surviving that unless he just get out in time.
Thats about all I can think of. 😕