Ayane vs Sagat

Snafu's Notes: You can't say that this is a good matchup. I like both Ayane and Sagat and this was done at the request of a dear friend of mine.

In an attempt to heal the rift between Kasumi and Ayane following Kasumi's return to the clan, Hayate decides that the three of them should go on a small holiday.

They travel to Hawaii, where Hayate has friends who run a Karate Dojo. During this time, Ayane reluctantly comes to a truce with her half-sister (and admits that she would have done the same thing concerning Raidou).

When they return to the Karate Dojo, they find one of the members out cold. Hayate learns that one of the senior members had challenged a kickboxer to a match. Said kickboxer knocked the guy out in one blow.

Seeing that he haven't had a good fight since the Tritower, Hayate decides to seek this man out, much to Kasumi and Ayane's chagrin. The trio find the man training on a beach.

There was one problem: he was kicking at a palm tree, knocking coconuts out of it with each strike.

Then the man notices his visitors. Hayate, Kasumi and Ayane look up at the mountain of muscle which is the bald, one-eyed, seven-foot-three, 300 pound Emperor of Muay Thai, Sagat.

Sagat's one eye looks down at Hayate. "Let me guess...you came for a match?"

Sagat was in Hawaii to meditate and reflect on his career as a kickboxer.

Hayate charged in. "You know what they say. 'The bigger they are...'"

"Tiger...Crush!"

Knee meets face as Hayate is KO'ed before he hits the ground.

Kasumi winced. "The more bones they break?"

Ayane decides to take a crack at Sagat. She issues a direct challenge at Sagat in the name of the Mugen Tenshin clan.

Sagat accepts the challenge. "Never fought a ninja before. This will prove to be interesting indeed. You will be a good match before I meet up with him again."

Ayane, easily.

Ayane will obliterate him.

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What's with the Ayane over rating?

I mean...she is fast, powerful and skilled...but people just assume she will always nimpo blast the crap out of her opponents for an instant win.

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Strength: Sagat. 'Nuff Said.

Speed: Ayane. No doubt.

Durability: Sagat. Taking dark hadou amped shoryukens and living.

Technique: Tie. Sagat is very skilled. He became the emperor when he was a teenager. Was undefeated until Ryu cheapshotted him. Ayane on the other hand beat Genra as a teenager. I'd say both of them are equally skilled in their respective arts.

Chi/Nimpo: Ayane has capacity for more destructive power. However that does not mean Sagat's chi abilities are weak.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
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What's with the Ayane over rating?

They didn't even bother to state why she wins. They are doing exactly what ruins threads.

"Character x wins."

No argument. No feats. Nothing.

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ROFL@Sagat saying he has never fought a ninja before after taking out Hayate(ninja) in one shot. Well...he's right it wasn't even a fight.

Sagat is maybe not so fast as Ayane

but Sagat in Sf 2 had the fastest projectile in the game

and to me, Ayane is not so special

Originally posted by shin_remy
Sagat is maybe not so fast as Ayane

but Sagat in Sf 2 had the fastest projectile in the game

and to me, Ayane is not so special

I was talking about combat speed. Her teleport can make his projectile useless.

I can post two videos, once of which show Ayane incinerating a building and the residents in it, and another showing her destroying multiple soldiers and the bridge connecting the DOATEC scyscrapers. What "feats" does Sagat have that comes anywhere close to that?

Originally posted by Guilty Gear
I can post two videos, once of which show Ayane incinerating a building and the residents in it, and another showing her destroying multiple soldiers and the bridge connecting the DOATEC scyscrapers. What "feats" does Sagat have that comes anywhere close to that?

Also, the building was ablaze before she performed the Ninpo.

YouTube video

And as I proved a couple of weeks ago her ninpo took at most 5-6 seconds to do due to all the slow motion sequences. The instant she starts doing it everything's clearly in slow motion. The bullets passing by Hayate and Ayane are moving so incredibly slow that it might've actually taken less time that what I just mentioned.

Take away those feats and Sagat still loses badly.

I'm talking about the one shown in Bayman's ending. That was not on fire before the attack was unleashed.

Sagat rapes her like the wannabe black man he is. And in fighting, 5-6 seconds is a long, long time.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear
And as I proved a couple of weeks ago her ninpo took at most 5-6 seconds to do due to all the slow motion sequences.

Nope, the slow motion sequences occured before she performed the Ninpo And when she released it. again, Hayate had to cover her and she was almost shot.

The real question is, can Sagat beat Scorpion? If he can then he can beat Ayane easily. Behold my golden A>B>C argument.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear

I'm talking about the one shown in Bayman's ending. That was not on fire before the attack was unleashed.

It's the same ninpo and the bridge was already on fire.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Nope, the slow motion sequences occured before she performed the Ninpo And when she released it.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
again, Hayate had to cover her and she was almost shot.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
It's the same ninpo and the bridge was already on fire.

Exactly, so why are you saying it takes so long to charge up?

You just said it took 5-6 seconds. That's an awfully long time.

Also she's not trying to wreck a building is she no she's trying to destroy one person, Sagat.

You might as well be trying to take down a building. Thsi is Sagat we're talking about.

It'll destroy Sagat within two seconds, because it vaporized those people in the buildings.

Nah, in the supposedly 5-6 secodns it takes she'll have already been t-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-iiiii gerrr UPPERCUT'ed.

Whatever..believe what you want. I'm not going to get you to agree regardless.

I love you for that.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear
Exactly, so why are you saying it takes so long to charge up?

*Sigh* because the charge up happened after the slow motion sequence. She was in-realtime during said conjuring, and not in-slow motion like you claimed.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear

By multpile soldiers armed with rifles at once, not to mention while she was performing the ninpo she was doing in some soldiers herself.

No, she wasn't, she stood still while performing said ninpo. The soldiers were taken out by hayate.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear

Also she's not trying to wreck a building is she no she's trying to destroy one person, Sagat.
It'll destroy Sagat within two seconds, because it vaporized those people in the buildings.

Do you have any proof to support your claim that time would be different because of the target?

Infact, during DOA 2 when she performeed a ninpo on Kasumi it tookf forever to finish.