Re: Onslaught vs Defenders
Originally posted by golem370
Who wins? This is Onslaught with the Charles,Magneto,X-Man & Franklin Richards. He has the Cyttorak gem too.No prep. This is a 80s line upDefenders
Doctor Strange, Hulk, Namor, Silver Surfer,Captain America, Clea, Cloud, Daredevil, Devil Slayer, Falcon, Gargoyle, Ghost Rider, Havok, Hercules, Hawkeye, Hellcat, Hellstorm, Howard the Duck, Iceman, Iron fist, Interloper, Jack of Hearts, Manslaughter, Moondragon, Nighthawk, Nova,Overmind,Spiderman,Stingray, Torpedo,Valkyrie, Vision, Wasp, White Tiger,Wonder Man, Yellowjacket. Captain Ultra,Paladin, Nomad, Spider-Woman, Namorita, Sleepwalker, Thunderstrike, War Machine, Northstar, Nova, Doctor Druid, Luke Cage, Shadowoman, Cadaver, Giant-Man,US Agent, Dagger, Deathlok II.
Dr. Strange, SS, Hulk, Nova and Moondragon (w/ Mind Gem) are basically the frontrunners here.
the rest are distractions
Originally posted by Nihilist
Classic Dr strange would beat onslaught imo, surfer would also give him a hard time as well.
totally wrong. The thing that breaks this is that Franklin Richards was walking around with near celestial level reality warping abilities. Onslaught has those. Sufficient enough to make exact clones of heroes to fight for him, will entire suns into being, or create dimensions at a whim. Strange has blown up planets and stopped time, but nothing on this level.
Remember that celestials were such a threat that Odin + in asgard combined (minus thor) couldn't defeat one. How does strange's magic fare vs. the gods of asgard? Not well at all. Even classic strange runs from his life from Loki alone.
Magic, even strange's magic..isn't going to get it done here.
Onslaught is also totally immune to physical damage (having no body). it took Thor + Mjolnir (and don't kid yourself, Thunderstrike is nowhere in the same league) PLUS a fully unleashed hulk to break his armor, which only made him more powerful.
NO ONE on this list has psi abilities sufficient enough to take out a combination of Professor X + Xman. period. this entire list minus surfer and moondragon should be mindwiped from the get-go.
full potential onslaught wins this easily, imho.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
totally wrong. The thing that breaks this is that Franklin Richards was walking around with near celestial level reality warping abilities. Onslaught has those. Sufficient enough to make exact clones of heroes to fight for him, will entire suns into being, or create dimensions at a whim. Strange has blown up planets and stopped time, but nothing on this level
Remember that celestials were such a threat that Odin + in asgard combined (minus thor) couldn't defeat one. How does strange's magic fare vs. the gods of asgard? Not well at all. Even classic strange runs from his life from Loki alone.Loki could only stalemate dr strange and loki had prep and all of stranges trinkets.
Onslaught is also totally immune to physical damage (having no body). it took Thor + Mjolnir (and don't kid yourself, Thunderstrike is nowhere in the same league) PLUS a fully unleashed hulk to break his armor, which only made him more powerful.stange took hits from galactus,death,inbetweener and had no great damage to but name a few.
NO ONE on this list has psi abilities sufficient enough to take out a combination of Professor X + Xman. period. this entire list minus surfer and moondragon should be mindwiped from the get-go.strange bested moondragon w/mind gem and he beat umar, dormammu's more powerful telepatic sister
full potential onslaught wins this easily, imho.Stange has beaten inbetweener,shuma gorath,stalemated mephisto and satannish in their own dimension.so onlsaught winning easily i highly doubt