Beta Ray Bill vs Black Adam

Started by quanchi11216 pages

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then MM's Vision has also upgraded with Superman's.
😆 🤣 😂 😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have it right here. I'm readign it now again. but I know in a book a read just recently, KK wanted to talk to batman about a fight they had. And batman seemed irritated becuz he'd lost. Batman dismisses him and tells him that next time, he'd win. I cna't member which book i just read it in. In lightning saga, kk was drugged or somethign right? Something was odd. I'll reread it.
Hmm. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
Hmm. lol.

Except it wasn't hearsay was it. I had the book right in front of me. even saying what was on the ad page. nice try tho. You made an incorrect statement and now instead of recanting you try to insult further. The insult is that you were incorrect. Try harder next time to be correct in your wrath and judgement.

Originally posted by UniOmni
And maybe Nvr has the right of it Avy.

Superman hit him with HV, and it hurt him but didn't injure him.

MM hit him with MV and it melted his face.

A direct comparison favors MM here.

Every dog has his day...let MM live son. 🙂

To compare it to Supes HV at it's best...is still ludicrous.

Originally posted by Juntai
The point is, you or no one else here have presented anything at all that has a bearing on the fight. Despite all evidence of Adam smashing teams left and right, dropping top tiers with ease, all that's in reply is "Bill wins, he has a hammer", when it's mostly not going to decide anything in this battle. Or claiming PIS or jobbing over Adam's feats, regardless of the consistancy and the calibre he's written at.

It's clear which character has been better debated and represented in this thread.

i know your quote was directed at nver but...

Au contraire...

So Adam wins because he goes through Alan, Fate et al, a crusher of the highest caliber among others...

despite the fact that no one here has presented any evidence that Adam is stronger than Bill, more durable than Bill, over-all more powerful than Bill...

i agree with UniOmni about DC concentrating more on strength, or does anyone truly believe that in a forum battle, Adam would decimate the Sentinel or Fate?...

so lol at the implication that Adam would run roughshod over Beta Ray Bill because he eats top tiers for breakfast in DC...

for all intents and purposes, barring the "awesome" rage that Teth posseses, against Bill in a forum fight, Adam is a flying brick...

his "uber" reputation notwithstanding, both are pretty much equal in strength and durability, if Bill can tussle with Stardust, an ethereal immune to physical attacks, i don't see why he can't against Adam...

IF not, plot device hammer for the edge, bfr ftw...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
You have let me down today.
I was wondering why KK was called a "her"... ermm

Meh, I've been wrong before...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except it wasn't hearsay was it. I had the book right in front of me. even saying what was on the ad page. nice try tho. You made an incorrect statement and now instead of recanting you try to insult further. The insult is that you were incorrect. Try harder next time to be correct in your wrath and judgement.
I wasn't incorrect in anything I've said.

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
i know your quote was directed at nver but...

Au contraire...

So Adam wins because he goes through Alan, Fate et al, a crusher of the highest caliber among others...

despite the fact that no one here has presented any evidence that Adam is stronger than Bill, more durable than Bill, over-all more powerful than Bill...

i agree with UniOmni about DC concentrating more on strength, or does anyone truly believe that in a [b]forum battle, Adam would decimate the Sentinel or Fate?...

so lol at the implication that Adam would run roughshod over Beta Ray Bill because he eats top tiers for breakfast in DC...

for all intents and purposes, barring the "awesome" rage that Teth posseses, against Bill in a forum fight, Adam is a flying brick...

his "uber" reputation notwithstanding, both are pretty much equal in strength and durability, if Bill can tussle with Stardust, an ethereal immune to physical attacks, i don't see why he can't against Adam...

IF not, plot device hammer for the edge, bfr ftw... [/B]

A battle with Stardust does not stand up to Adam's showings. Not much use in using it as a benchmark here for that reason, and that Adam isn't Stardust.
I didn't suggest he's just going to stomp all over Bill and him not be able to do anything about it. I was saying across the last so many pages why I felt he takes the win, and it's certainly applicable, whether you choose to ignore the last 15 pages of this demonstration is irrelivent. It's all opinions, I just happened to support my end better, why my opponents just said "Bill has a hammer" and "PIS" and "jobbing" over and over, rather than actual debating.

Originally posted by quanchi112
no the tard would be the guy who cant remember anything and needs others to back up their arguments. remember things, wuit arguing with ur hazy ass mind. 😆
Pretty much. But he still didn't know what he was talking about. He couldn't even remember any of the events of the story clearly.

Like right here, after Tyrant and I were discussing the CURRENT Karate Kid of the Legion of Superheros, fighting Batman in BRAVE AND THE BOLD in THIS WEEKS ISSUE.

He replies;

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But later on, KK goes to batman to offer his gratitude at fighting such a great martial arts master and batman gets upset. Batman tells kk that the next time, KK wont' win. So what the ****. KK must have beaten batman at some point.
Originally posted by Juntai
You're confusing different arcs.
Kind of what happens when your knowledge is from random scans and hearsay.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I read this myself in one of the books I just bought from the comics store. It was in one of the newer JLA or Justice Society books. So uch for scans and hearsay. I would have said I read it on a scan.
Really, so he read a Brave and the Bold issue inside of a JLA/JSA issue?
And then continues to act like he's right when Mungi comes in and talks about an old issue like there's some point to be made.
We're talking about the CURRENT future Karate Kid, he's talking about the ancient version who recently popped up again somehow.

The part I like, is how one moment earlier in the thread, he tells us he hasn't read anything of Black Adam or Eclipso, but then tries to convince us he collects Justice Society, which is the book Adam primarily appears in, and Eclipso had an entire arc in[multiple in fact, but only one as this female version who is a new host]. Not to mention Eclipso has appeared in nearly every DC title at least once during the Crisis time, and build ups to it. And she's starting to do so again. And she was one the major catalysts in Day of Vengeance, and had a huge part in Crisis altogether.

Then he tells us he's has the BOOK IN HIS HAND AND IS READING IT, but can't describe what is going on?
"What's going on here? Is he drugged? I dunno? Maybe Mungi and Tyrant can talk about it and correct me or bring in scans. AHA I WAS RIGHT!"

Flaws like this can be found all over every thread he's in. Just as I said before, it's part of the problem when you use internet scans and hearsay rather than books as your material source. Plus I'll add that jumping into a conversation you know nothing about, will only make you look like an idiot.

Originally posted by Juntai
Pretty much. But he still didn't know what he was talking about. He couldn't even remember any of the events of the story clearly.

Like right here, after Tyrant and I were discussing the CURRENT Karate Kid of the Legion of Superheros, fighting Batman in BRAVE AND THE BOLD in THIS WEEKS ISSUE.

He replies;

Really, so he read a Brave and the Bold issue inside of a JLA/JSA issue?
And then continues to act like he's right when Mungi comes in and talks about an old issue like there's some point to be made.
We're talking about the CURRENT future Karate Kid, he's talking about the ancient version who recently popped up again somehow.

The part I like, is how one moment earlier in the thread, he tells us he hasn't read anything of Black Adam or Eclipso, but then tries to convince us he collects Justice Society, which is the book Adam primarily appears in, and Eclipso had an entire arc in[multiple in fact, but only one as this female version who is a new host]. Not to mention Eclipso has appeared in nearly every DC title at least once during the Crisis time, and build ups to it. And she's starting to do so again. And she was one the major catalysts in Day of Vengeance, and had a huge part in Crisis altogether.

Then he tells us he's has the BOOK IN HIS HAND AND IS READING IT, but can't describe what is going on?
"What's going on here? Is he drugged? I dunno? Maybe Mungi and Tyrant can talk about it and correct me or bring in scans. AHA I WAS RIGHT!"

Flaws like this can be found all over every thread he's in. Just as I said before, it's part of the problem when you use internet scans and hearsay rather than books as your material source. Plus I'll add that jumping into a conversation you know nothing about, will only make you look like an idiot.


Actually you didnt' make anyone look like an idiot. I had the book in my hand and described the page in question and th actual ad across the page. So come again? I coudlnt' remember which book it was in, but when someone said it was in countdown, i found the page right there. I thought i saw it in justice society or jla, but it was countdown. to which I described the page. So where you are getting this hate for me is rediculous. But it doesn't matter. Becuz the event still stands. i was still correct. batman said that KK outfought him. So if you must decide to be an *******. Then be one. I dont' use internet scans. And just becuz you are such a ***** about it. and a dick ass hole, I'll take a pic of the comics i just bought and link them in. Just to see the ire in your eyes that you would suggest that I use scans when I just said that I read it somewhere. It amazes me that you would be such an ******* about nothing. I was correct in what I said. Batman said he lost to KK. Get over it. All I did was make a statement that Batman lost to kk and you want to have a cow over it. Well if comics are that much of your life that you would make eroneous statements about me that obviously aren't true since I actually described the page that I was talking about, then so be it. and for you to even think about agreeing with quachi, shows that you are the smartest at all. quanchi has no clue as to what is going on and jumps at any chance he gets. he feels rather retarded becuz he's the one who made the statement that I didn't know what I was talking about in the first place when actually I did. And I didn't say I have the book in my hands i'm reading it, I said I have the books in my hand i'm reading them. As in I'm trying to find out where I saw the even. Once I was told wich book it was in, Then I described not only the event, but the actual ad page across the event. Since when do people scan ad pages? HUH? Please enlighten us oh one of all the answers. Since you know me so damned well, and know that I just must have been looking at a scan, of course if I were, It would have been readily available for me to say what was on the page, instead of me having to look it up, but since when do people scan ad pages? I'd love to hear how I knew what was on the ad page since I go off of hearsay and scans. enlighten us all. As far as Eclipso goes, what the **** are you talking about? I already said that I hadn't read any eclipso in years. So what's your point again? I asked a simple question and that was had he gotten a power up of some kind. Becuz the last I remember, he was happy about having other's bodies and thier powers. So exactly what is your point with eclipso? Was there one? I have already stated that I hadn't read much with him. So you were saying again about someone being an idiot? Maybe I dont' remember the books that well, or even the order of events, hell I dont' even read the comics more than once and then I do something else, But Idiot? LOL. I provide some argument and logic off of what I remember and ask a couople of questions for stuff I can't. As I did in this one. But idiot would hardly apply to someone who makes Hundred thousand dollar deals and finds experts in the fields of medicine, technology, finance, ect, and places them in the correct setting. Forgive me if I haven't developed my comics arguing side to a science. I'll give up my outside life and concentrate more on being like you.

Originally posted by Juntai
A battle with Stardust does not stand up to Adam's showings. Not much use in using it as a benchmark here for that reason, and that Adam isn't Stardust.

it's to show that if the match would be decided through sheer physicality, which is the brunt of Adam's offense, that Bill is no slouch in that department and can give as good as he gets...

it wasn't meant to imply that Adam or even Fate or Alan is similar to Stardust, since none of them are immune to physical attacks anyway... 😛

as you said, it's all opinions, and i agree...

let's just agree to disagree then...

It's all opinions, I just happened to support my end better, why my opponents just said "Bill has a hammer" and "PIS" and "jobbing" over and over, rather than actual debating.

well, half the forum doesn't debate objectively anyway, so you have my sympathies...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually you didnt' make anyone look like an idiot.
I didn't. You did.
I had the book in my hand and described the page in question and th actual ad across the page. So come again? I coudlnt' remember which book it was in, but when someone said it was in countdown, i found the page right there. I thought i saw it in justice society or jla, but it was countdown. to which I described the page. So where you are getting this hate for me is rediculous. But it doesn't matter. Becuz the event still stands. i was still correct. batman said that KK outfought him.
The point is, that is not relivent to what were were discussing, it's not the same event. It's not the same Karate Kid. It's not even the same Legion. I tried telling you were getting the issues & arcs confused from the start. We were discussing Wednesday's issue of Brave and the Bold, you're talking about a scuffle that happened a while back, and acting like it had relivence on what were discussing. It doesn't. I clearly pointed out your cluelessness and your other foolishness in my last post. Refer back to there if you have to.

So if you must decide to be an *******. Then be one. I dont' use internet scans. And just becuz you are such a ***** about it. and a dick ass hole.
lol.

for you to even think about agreeing with quachi, shows that you are the smartest at all. quanchi has no clue as to what is going on and jumps at any chance he gets. he feels rather retarded becuz he's the one who made the statement that I didn't know what I was talking about in the first place when actually I did.
Most of that doesn't even pertain to me, except the part you're seemingly try to say I'm stupid because he, like myself, both pointed out how big of a hole you were digging.

And I didn't say I have the book in my hands i'm reading it, I said I have the books in my hand i'm reading them. As in I'm trying to find out where I saw the even. Once I was told wich book it was in, Then I described not only the event, but the actual ad page across the event. Since when do people scan ad pages? HUH? Please enlighten us oh one of all the answers. Since you know me so damned well, and know that I just must have been looking at a scan, of course if I were, It would have been readily available for me to say what was on the page, instead of me having to look it up, but since when do people scan ad pages? I'd love to hear how I knew what was on the ad page since I go off of hearsay and scans. enlighten us all.
Interesting. I just scanned the last few pages since this began - twice, and nowhere is the mentioning of what's on any ad-page that I saw. All I see is you eventually randomly claiming you did. I might have missed it, can you point it out?

As far as Eclipso goes, what the **** are you talking about? I already said that I hadn't read any eclipso in years. So what's your point again? I asked a simple question and that was had he gotten a power up of some kind. Becuz the last I remember, he was happy about having other's bodies and thier powers. So exactly what is your point with eclipso? Was there one? I have already stated that I hadn't read much with him. So you were saying again about someone being an idiot? Maybe I dont' remember the books that well, or even the order of events, hell I dont' even read the comics more than once and then I do something else, But Idiot? LOL. I provide some argument and logic off of what I remember and ask a couople of questions for stuff I can't. As I did in this one. But idiot would hardly apply to someone who makes Hundred thousand dollar deals and finds experts in the fields of medicine, technology, finance, ect, and places them in the correct setting. Forgive me if I haven't developed my comics arguing side to a science. I'll give up my outside life and concentrate more on being like you.
I never said you were an idiot for not reading comics, or your utter lack of debating skills, tact, manners, or anything. I said you make yourself LOOK like one, because you didn't know what you were talking about.

Of course Karate Kid and Batman fought in the Lightning Saga arc, and then the fight scene was extended in Countdown, and then in a later issue Batman having that conversation with him that it wouldn't happen again. No one was denying that at any point. I certainly wasn't. -- And it would stupid for me to do so, since I own all of those comics. -- But you started parading around that you were 'Right', and everyone else was 'Wrong', when that wasn't even the situation at all. It just shows even still how clueless you are about the whole ordeal, because neither of those moments at all pertain to the conversation Tyrant and I were having about the current Brave and the Bold issue. You lunged into it headfirst and ended up looking bad on your own with that one. The rest of the thread though? That was me.

But yeah, you would definately need to quit your other daily routines and put in a lot of training to be remotely close to a stud like me. 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
I didn't. You did.
The point is, that is not relivent to what were were discussing, it's not the same event. It's not the same Karate Kid. It's not even the same Legion. I tried telling you were getting the issues & arcs confused from the start. We were discussing Wednesday's issue of Brave and the Bold, you're talking about a scuffle that happened a while back, and acting like it had relivence on what were discussing. It doesn't. I clearly pointed out your cluelessness and your other foolishness in my last post. Refer back to there if you have to.

lol.

Most of that doesn't even pertain to me, except the part you're seemingly try to say I'm stupid because he, like myself, both pointed out how big of a hole you were digging.

Interesting. I just scanned the last few pages since this began - twice, and nowhere is the mentioning of what's on any ad-page that I saw. All I see is you eventually randomly claiming you did. I might have missed it, can you point it out?

I never said you were an idiot for not reading comics, or your utter lack of debating skills, tact, manners, or anything. I said you make yourself LOOK like one, because you didn't know what you were talking about.

Of course Karate Kid and Batman fought in the Lightning Saga arc, and then the fight scene was extended in Countdown, and then in a later issue Batman having that conversation with him that it wouldn't happen again. No one was denying that at any point. I certainly wasn't. -- And it would stupid for me to do so, since I own all of those comics. -- But you started parading around that you were 'Right', and everyone else was 'Wrong', when that wasn't even the situation at all. It just shows even still how clueless you are about the whole ordeal, because neither of those moments at all pertain to the conversation Tyrant and I were having about the current Brave and the Bold issue. You lunged into it headfirst and ended up looking bad on your own with that one. The rest of the thread though? That was me.

But yeah, you would definately need to quit your other daily routines and put in a lot of training to be remotely close to a stud like me. 😉

🙂 nice job,juntai. u go boy. 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
I didn't. You did.
The point is, that is not relivent to what were were discussing, it's not the same event. It's not the same Karate Kid. It's not even the same Legion. I tried telling you were getting the issues & arcs confused from the start. We were discussing Wednesday's issue of Brave and the Bold, you're talking about a scuffle that happened a while back, and acting like it had relivence on what were discussing. It doesn't. I clearly pointed out your cluelessness and your other foolishness in my last post. Refer back to there if you have to.

lol.

Most of that doesn't even pertain to me, except the part you're seemingly try to say I'm stupid because he, like myself, both pointed out how big of a hole you were digging.

Interesting. I just scanned the last few pages since this began - twice, and nowhere is the mentioning of what's on any ad-page that I saw. All I see is you eventually randomly claiming you did. I might have missed it, can you point it out?

I never said you were an idiot for not reading comics, or your utter lack of debating skills, tact, manners, or anything. I said you make yourself LOOK like one, because you didn't know what you were talking about.

Of course Karate Kid and Batman fought in the Lightning Saga arc, and then the fight scene was extended in Countdown, and then in a later issue Batman having that conversation with him that it wouldn't happen again. No one was denying that at any point. I certainly wasn't. -- And it would stupid for me to do so, since I own all of those comics. -- But you started parading around that you were 'Right', and everyone else was 'Wrong', when that wasn't even the situation at all. It just shows even still how clueless you are about the whole ordeal, because neither of those moments at all pertain to the conversation Tyrant and I were having about the current Brave and the Bold issue. You lunged into it headfirst and ended up looking bad on your own with that one. The rest of the thread though? That was me.

But yeah, you would definately need to quit your other daily routines and put in a lot of training to be remotely close to a stud like me. 😉

Well Master Yoda, Get ready for my training. Since you are a stud at this, you will now teach me. Anyway, confusion Aside, Most of my anger was directed at quanchi for jumping your bandwagon. Let's just squash this. I dont' like arguing with knowlegeable forumners. You just rubbed me the wrong way. And yes I did describe the mountain dew ad that was on the opposite page of what I was reading. So let's just squash it so i can go back to my quanbashing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
🙂 nice job,juntai. u go boy. 😉

You are an idiot to the highest power. then add infinity on top of that, and it still wouldn't be enough to equal your idiotcy.That will be all.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well Master Yoda, Get ready for my training. Since you are a stud at this, you will now teach me. Anyway, confusion Aside, Most of my anger was directed at quanchi for jumping your bandwagon. Let's just squash this. I dont' like arguing with knowlegeable forumners. You just rubbed me the wrong way. And yes I did describe the mountain dew ad that was on the opposite page of what I was reading. So let's just squash it so i can go back to my quanbashing.
bashing is not tolerated and i will not stand for it. just becuz he proved u wrong and badly now u want to make peace with him. 😆 so stick to debating becuz bashing is not tolerated on kmc.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are an idiot to the highest power. then add infinity on top of that, and it still wouldn't be enough to equal your idiotcy.That will be all.
he proved u wrong. i was just agreeing with him. not keep the bashing to a minimum. lets keep this place,kmc respectful. 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well Master Yoda, Get ready for my training. Since you are a stud at this, you will now teach me. Anyway, confusion Aside, Most of my anger was directed at quanchi for jumping your bandwagon. Let's just squash this. I dont' like arguing with knowlegeable forumners. You just rubbed me the wrong way. And yes I did describe the mountain dew ad that was on the opposite page of what I was reading. So let's just squash it so i can go back to my quanbashing.
I'd rather get back to the comic books myself, rather than arguing like that. 👆

Beta Ray Bill 7/10...Black Adam is awesome but I still have to give the edge to Bill

Tough fight to call. I like them both.