Beta Ray Bill vs Black Adam

Started by llagrok16 pages
Originally posted by BlackJackal
Black Adam isn't likely to use his lightning trick on Bill, so the energy channeling trick of Stormbreaker is moot at best. It takes alot to slow Adam down, let alone keep him down. I don't see Bill developing telepathy to assail Adam on the mental level like Manhunter did.
The best chance I'm willing to give Bill after reading Stormbreaker is a stalemate.

Stalemate 😱

We've never seen BRB bloodlusted on the same level as Black Adam during WW3, it's difficult to imagine BRB in that position.

Great battle. 2 ruthless characters in battle.

I give the edge to Adam for 3 reasons.

1 - Bills hammer blasts may not affect Adam completely due to Adams resistance to magic.

2 - Adam loves mangling heads and faces...and well, Bill's would probably be too tempting... imagine what Adam did to Sobek done to Bill...ouch.

3 - Adam is most likely faster. Bill should be faster than Thor though considering his cybernetic origin so it won't be that bad.

Adam 6/10

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Great battle. 2 ruthless characters in battle.

I give the edge to Adam for 3 reasons.

1 - Bills hammer blasts may not affect Adam completely due to Adams resistance to magic.

2 - Adam loves mangling heads and faces...and well, Bill's would probably be too tempting... imagine what Adam did to Sobek done to Bill...ouch.

3 - Adam is most likely faster. Bill should be faster than Thor though considering his cybernetic origin so it won't be that bad.

Adam 6/10

1. If they're using their abilities to their full extent, then BRB gets access to a lot of things with his hammer. Matter Manipulation is most of the most versatile things there is.

2. Yeah, if BRB tries to bite him. Sobek's only weapon was his bite, BRB wouldn't try to bite Adam.

3. Adam is definitely a lot faster than Bill, but what about reflexes?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Great battle. 2 ruthless characters in battle.

I give the edge to Adam for 3 reasons.

1 - Bills hammer blasts may not affect Adam completely due to Adams resistance to magic.

And yet, they affected Ego, Fenris, Stardust, etc. Plus, his hammer attack smashed the rest of the Twilight Sword.
It's not like every blast is concentrated magic.
Plus, even if it was, it still has planet dwarfing blasts.

Bill can put Teth down, just as easily as Teth can put him down (although I feel Bill has heavier attacks).

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
2 - Adam loves mangling heads and faces...and well, Bill's would probably be too tempting... imagine what Adam did to Sobek done to Bill...ouch.
Bill has survived getting torn apart basically.
Not really relevant, but neither is bringing up a chump like Sobek, in comparison to Bill.
Not to forget of course, Bill's jaw is way, way smaller than Sobek's.

Also, if Bill does try to bite him, it could turn ugly for Adam.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
3 - Adam is most likely faster. Bill should be faster than Thor though considering his cybernetic origin so it won't be that bad.

Adam 6/10

Probably. But, really?
Bill has bullrushed Stardust, from at least a couple planets away. And he did it before it could react.

Either way, speed really shouldn't be an issue in this fight. Although, Bill has really impressive showings of speed. He's also incredibly smart with his hammer throws.
Speed to my recollection, has never been a problem with Bill.

With that all said, call it bias, but I feel Adam pulls a win, although it could go either way.

Originally posted by Tyrant
And yet, they affected Ego, Fenris, Stardust, etc. Plus, his hammer attack smashed the rest of the Twilight Sword.
It's not like every blast is concentrated magic.
Plus, even if it was, it still has planet dwarfing blasts.

Bill can put Teth down, just as easily as Teth can put him down (although I feel Bill has heavier attacks).

Bill has survived getting torn apart basically.
Not really relevant, but neither is bringing up a chump like Sobek, in comparison to Bill.
Not to forget of course, Bill's jaw is way, way smaller than Sobek's.

Also, if Bill does try to bite him, it could turn ugly for Adam.

Probably. But, really?
Bill has bullrushed Stardust, from at least a couple planets away. And he did it before it could react.

Either way, speed really shouldn't be an issue in this fight. Although, Bill has really impressive showings of speed. He's also incredibly smart with his hammer throws.
Speed to my recollection, has never been a problem with Bill.

With that all said, call it bias, but I feel Adam pulls a win, although it could go either way.

I agree with almost everything here. (BrB for me, not Adam) Excellent show! 👆

Originally posted by llagrok
1. If they're using their abilities to their full extent, then BRB gets access to a lot of things with his hammer. Matter Manipulation is most of the most versatile things there is.

2. Yeah, if BRB tries to bite him. Sobek's only weapon was his bite, BRB wouldn't try to bite Adam.

3. Adam is definitely a lot faster than Bill, but what about reflexes?

Originally posted by Tyrant
And yet, they affected Ego, Fenris, Stardust, etc. Plus, his hammer attack smashed the rest of the Twilight Sword.
It's not like every blast is concentrated magic.
Plus, even if it was, it still has planet dwarfing blasts.

Bill can put Teth down, just as easily as Teth can put him down (although I feel Bill has heavier attacks).

Bill has survived getting torn apart basically.
Not really relevant, but neither is bringing up a chump like Sobek, in comparison to Bill.
Not to forget of course, Bill's jaw is way, way smaller than Sobek's.

Also, if Bill does try to bite him, it could turn ugly for Adam.

Probably. But, really?
Bill has bullrushed Stardust, from at least a couple planets away. And he did it before it could react.

Either way, speed really shouldn't be an issue in this fight. Although, Bill has really impressive showings of speed. He's also incredibly smart with his hammer throws.
Speed to my recollection, has never been a problem with Bill.

With that all said, call it bias, but I feel Adam pulls a win, although it could go either way.

Who said anything about Bill trying to bite Adam? Adam seems to have a kink for attacks heads/faces/mouths...and Bills would probably be damn tempting considering how it sticks out.

Speedwise, like I said, It won't be that bad since Bill is cybernetic but Adam does have an advantage with it anyway.

And 6/10 means close in my book. Bill has his Stardust battle feats...Adam has WW3.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Who said anything about Bill trying to bite Adam? Adam seems to have a kink for attacks heads/faces/mouths...and Bills would probably be damn tempting considering how it sticks out.

Speedwise, like I said, It won't be that bad since Bill is cybernetic but Adam does have an advantage with it anyway.

And 6/10 means close in my book. Bill has his Stardust battle feats...Adam has WW3.

Because Sobek looked like he was trying to bite Adam before he got popped.

Also, Bill's mouth isn't as big, and he still has modes of defense if that happens.
Hands, hammer, knees.

Maybe not. It really doesn't matter if Bill is cybernetic.
What matters is him taking someone planet distances away, and smashing through them before they could react.
Plus, he showed exemplary speed throughout that whole comic series.

Bill also has his taking down of Ego twice in the same issue.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Who said anything about Bill trying to bite Adam? Adam seems to have a kink for attacks heads/faces/mouths...and Bills would probably be damn tempting considering how it sticks out.

Speedwise, like I said, It won't be that bad since Bill is cybernetic but Adam does have an advantage with it anyway.

And 6/10 means close in my book. Bill has his Stardust battle feats...Adam has WW3.

BRB wouldn't have any trouble going through all the chumps that Adam faced in WW3. He was killing kids for crying out loud.

Originally posted by Tyrant

It's not like every blast is concentrated magic.

Exactly he can summon mutiple forms of energy. PLus he can use strombreaker for other purposes other than magical blasts. He can transmute elements through matter manipulation, create shields, create portals, throw the dam thing at Adams head etc...

Originally posted by nimbus006
Exactly he can summon mutiple forms of energy. PLus he can use strombreaker for other purposes other than magical blasts. He can transmute elements through matter manipulation, create shields, create portals, throw the dam thing at Adams head etc...
with all this evidence may be i did understimate beta ray bill. ill rethink this one and get back to u. some great points have been made.

BRB. He was tuff before Surfer Super charged him with the power cosmic. BRB 6/10. He's likely just as tuff and strong as BA. But he's also a rediculous warrior with that hammer. no matter how tuff adam is, that magic hammer is going to hurt. And BRB is not the type to swing and miss.

after reviewing the evidence presented to me in here i have reversed my decision. even though black adam was impressive in ww3 it seems like beta ray bill could accomplish the same kind of ruckus he did. brbr coould hav ebalsted multiple dc heroes around like ragdolls like black adam did. beta ray bill beats black adam in a slight majority. beta ray bill for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
after reviewing the evidence presented to me in here i have reversed my decision. even though black adam was impressive in ww3 it seems like beta ray bill could accomplish the same kind of ruckus he did. brbr coould hav ebalsted multiple dc heroes around like ragdolls like black adam did. beta ray bill beats black adam in a slight majority. beta ray bill for the win.

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I am very impressed

I'd like to see Quanchi post some WW3 scans. To prove that he has actually read it.

Originally posted by llagrok
I'd like to see Quanchi post some WW3 scans. To prove that he has actually read it.
Don't overestimate the little one.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Don't overestimate the little one.

Does Steven have a toothbrush in his chair?

Originally posted by starlock
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I am very impressed

thanks. i change my mind when i see that the evidence presented is very credible. i aditted i was wrong. brb for the win. 😉

Originally posted by llagrok
Does Steven have a toothbrush in his chair?
I thought it looked like a straw...

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanks. i change my mind when i see that the evidence presented is very credible. i aditted i was wrong. brb for the win. 😉
What evidence?

Originally posted by llagrok
I'd like to see Quanchi post some WW3 scans. To prove that he has actually read it.
why should i post scans i could tell u word for word what happened in any of the issues. 😉 i dont post scans anyways. 😉

Originally posted by Tyrant
I thought it looked like a straw...

What evidence?

not going to even respond to ur feeble attempts at trolling me. brb for the win.