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Originally posted by EvilAngel
Hmmm, emo pants.

Don't care for either but Gangster pants look more comfy.

Are you a boy or a girl btw? (Not that i suppose you'll answer me ๐Ÿ˜› )

I am a male, but MooBull of Justice doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Emo and Gangster pants exist. By Emo pants I mean pants like jeans that are WAY too tight. And everybody knows what I mean by Gangster pants. The kids that wear pants two sizes too large and don't wear a belt.

I have both pants types and I am neither ๐Ÿ™‚

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
YAY! Another DMC clone.
It is not a clone of DMC, read the previous comments. Plus I seen nothing of War that makes it silmar to DMC. or Could you be judging it on the Hellish back background, which if you are is not the case because DMC wasn't the first game to center arround hell.

Originally posted by Phanteros
It is not a clone of DMC, read the previous comments. Plus I seen nothing of War that makes it silmar to DMC. or Could you be judging it on the Hellish back background, which if you are is not the case because DMC wasn't the first game to center arround hell.

Both are demon-related who are going against their own kind, use big swords, use guns, are stylish action games, etc.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Emo and Gangster pants exist. By Emo pants I mean pants like jeans that are WAY too tight. And everybody knows what I mean by Gangster pants. The kids that wear pants two sizes too large and don't wear a belt.

If the day comes where pants actually have "emo" or "gangster" labeled on the tags at stores or somethin', then I'll believe you. Until then, I'll dismiss it as a silly stereotype. ๐Ÿบ

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Both are demon-related who are going against their own kind, use big swords, use guns, are stylish action games, etc.
Then they all copied Spawn. ๐Ÿ˜›

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
YAY! Another DMC clone.

Lemme guess, it's also because War has white hair and he's in red?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Both are demon-related who are going against their own kind, use big swords, use guns, are stylish action games, etc.

FAIL
War is not a demon nor is he demon-related. He's not going against his own kind.

Devil May Cry itself was inspired by some elements from Onimusha. Yet you don't go around saying "DMC is an Onimusha clone", because by your logical views, it is.

Originally posted by Phanteros
It is not a clone of DMC, read the previous comments. Plus I seen nothing of War that makes it silmar to DMC. or Could you be judging it on the Hellish back background, which if you are is not the case because DMC wasn't the first game to center arround hell.

It has some elements that are possibly inspired by DMC, but it obviously isn't a 'clone' as Sin believes.

War is a Horseman and a force, not a demon. War is actually doing what he's been raised to do, keep balance. if War resembled anyone it would be arthas. plus I don't see War saying crappy one liners and cracking jokes either.

as matter fact Demons are beneath War and you could say he's the grittier and darker version of Link.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
If the day comes where pants actually have "emo" or "gangster" labeled on the tags at stores or somethin', then I'll believe you. Until then, I'll dismiss it as a silly stereotype. ๐Ÿบ

Clever choice; if I do say so myself ๐Ÿ˜›

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I am a male, but MooBull of Justice doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Emo and Gangster pants exist. By Emo pants I mean pants like jeans that are WAY too tight. And everybody knows what I mean by Gangster pants. The kids that wear pants two sizes too large and don't wear a belt.

Bull! ๐Ÿ˜›

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lemme guess, it's also because War has white hair and he's in red?

FAIL
War is not a demon nor is he demon-related. He's not going against his own kind.

Devil May Cry itself was inspired by some elements from Onimusha. Yet you don't go around saying "DMC is an Onimusha clone", because by your logical views, it is.

It has some elements that are possibly inspired by DMC, but it obviously isn't a 'clone' as Sin believes.

It's a GoW clone which is a DMC clone. Therefore, Darksiders is a DMC clone.

Originally posted by Phanteros
War is a Horseman and a force, not a demon. War is actually doing what he's been raised to do, keep balance. if War resembled anyone it would be arthas. plus I don't see War saying crappy one liners and cracking jokes either.

as matter fact Demons are beneath War and you could say he's the grittier and darker version of Link.

The 4 horseman are demon-like, even if they're supposed to be symbolic. He might be different in this game, but he's still demon-like. Someone said he has white hair and dresses red. I didn't even notice; more proof that it's a DMC clone.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
It's a GoW clone which is a DMC clone. Therefore, Darksiders is a DMC clone.

No it isn't ๐Ÿ˜. Your belief that it is a clone based on trivial similarities is laughable at best.
By this logic, Darksiders is an Onimusha clone as DMC itself is an Onimusha clone.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
The 4 horseman are demon-like, even if they're supposed to be symbolic. He might be different in this game, but he's still demon-like. Someone said he has white hair and dresses red. I didn't even notice; more proof that it's a DMC clone.

They aren't demon-like ๐Ÿ˜.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
No it isn't ๐Ÿ˜. Your belief that it is a clone based on trivial similarities is laughable at best.
By this logic, Darksiders is an Onimusha clone as DMC itself is an Onimusha clone.

NO! DMC is a DMC clone.

๐Ÿ˜  Not funny!

4 horsemen? That makes me think Apocalypse! woot

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
NO! DMC is a DMC clone.

๐Ÿ˜  Not funny!

I'm not kidding, I'm trying to show the foolishness in calling a newer game a clone of an older game, simply because a very few of the trivial details or mechanics are the same.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
4 horsemen? That makes me think Apocalypse! woot

Your talent for thinking about the obvious is extraordinary ๐Ÿ˜›.
Planning on playing Darksiders?

Yeah, maybe/probably.

In all seriousness, Onimusha and Devil May Cry are spawns of Resident Evil. DMC also had similarities to Castlevania (which then allowed Konami to make a DMC-like Castlevania game). DMC started to differ in DMC2/DMC3.

GoW is still a DMC clone. I can list all the reasons here:

1. Both have red and white colors in their appearance.

2. Their main weapons (Rebellion and Athena's Blades) tend to be useful throughout the entire game.

3. Both collect red orbs which is used as currency. Also in both games, it symbolizes blood.

4. Both have green orbs which is used for healing.

5. Both collect round objects to increase the health bar (Blue Orbs and Cyclop eyes).

6. Both have a stronger form which lasts briefly and can be regained by dealing damage (Devil Trigger and Rage of the Gods/Titans).

7. Dante is referred as Son of Sparda while Kratos is sometimes called the Ghost of Sparta.

8. Both games enable stylish combos with a combo counter.

9. Both double jump.

10. Both have 4 levels of difficulty (that was until DMC3 SE).

11. Both franchises were born on the PS2

12. In their first games, they kill their antagonist with a big sword. Also their antagonists are fought in at least two different battles.

13. Mundus's and Ares's defeat causes an explosion.

14. Mundus and Ares are gods (or in Mundus case, god-like).

15. Both games have weapon-switching at the press of a button.

16. Dante and Kratos won't stay dead (though Kratos might at GoW3)

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah, maybe/probably.

DEW EET.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
In all seriousness, Onimusha and Devil May Cry are spawns of Resident Evil. DMC also had similarities to Castlevania (which then allowed Konami to make a DMC-like Castlevania game). DMC started to differ in DMC2/DMC3.

GoW is still a DMC clone. I can list all the reasons here:

1. Both have red and white colors in their appearance.

2. Their main weapons (Rebellion and Athena's Blades) tend to be useful throughout the entire game.

3. Both collect red orbs which is used as currency. Also in both games, it symbolizes blood.

4. Both have green orbs which is used for healing.

5. Both collect round objects to increase the health bar (Blue Orbs and Cyclop eyes).

6. Both have a stronger form which lasts briefly and can be regained by dealing damage (Devil Trigger and Rage of the Gods/Titans).

7. Dante is referred as Son of Sparda while Kratos is sometimes called the Ghost of Sparta.

8. Both games enable stylish combos with a combo counter.

9. Both double jump.

10. Both have 4 levels of difficulty (that was until DMC3 SE).

11. Both franchises were born on the PS2

12. In their first games, they kill their antagonist with a big sword. Also their antagonists are fought in at least two different battles.

13. Mundus's and Ares's defeat causes an explosion.

14. Mundus and Ares are gods (or in Mundus case, god-like).

15. Both games have weapon-switching at the press of a button.

16. Dante and Kratos won't stay dead (though Kratos might at GoW3)

Doesn't change the fact that DMC shares some similarities with and was inspired by Onimusha, hence DMC is a clone of Onimusha, if we use your point of view that is.

1. Kratos is bald. Dante is not.

2. Kratos has a tattoo. Dante does not.

3. Dante has a brother. Kratos does not (that stupid little extra in GoW about his brother is non-canon).

4. Kratos killed his family. Dante did not.

5. Both games have different sets of enemies.

6. GoW uses finishing moves via QTE's for most enemies. DMC does not.

7. DMC has a combo system that revolves around style and chaining different moves together. Using the same move over and over again will not work. GoW's combo system just revolves around getting in as many hits as you can.

8. DMC(3) uses different styles. GoW does not.

9. DMC(3) uses a lot of different techniques, such as buffering (v1, v2), canceling, jump canceling, etc. while GoW only uses minimal canceling and buffering.

10. Dante usually has to purchase his double jump. Kratos does not.

11. GoW uses magic as an aid in battle. DMC does not.

12. DMC uses items such as health stars, holy waters, etc. as an aid in battle. GoW does not.

13. GoW weapons are upgraded via levels. Each level grants new moves. In DMC, we have to purchase moves for weapons.

14. Sparda (DMC) is a person. Sparta (GoW) is a place. Sparta is well known to historians and the like, and I've never heard of a Sparda in history.

15. GoW uses chests to replenish health, etc. DMC does not.

16. GoW uses chain blades as its main weapon. DMC does not.

17. DMC's on-the-fly weapon switching is a little different from the on-the-fly switching in GoW, GoW:CoO and GoWIII. GoWII has a completely different method of weapon switching, one that was not continued as it led to a number of "game-breaking" exploits.

18. DMC sucks at platformer elements. GoW does a decent job.

19. Rebellion is often left in favor of the newer weapons that are unlocked (at least, that is the case with DMC3). GoW's chain blades do not suffer from the same dilemma.

20. Kratos is mainly white (was brown before). Dante is mainly colored red, but has pale skin. He has some black on him as well iirc.

21. Kratos' father is the king of the gods. Dante's father is not the king of the demons.

22. DT is mainly regained by the style bar (i.e. if you are stylish, you gain DT). RotG/T is gained via taking damage/dealing damage. I doubt you gain DT if you take damage.

23. Dante can run on walls under his own power. Kratos cannot (under his own power)

24. Dante is a half-demon. Kratos is a demi-god.

25. Kratos rips apart some enemies with his hands. Dante prefers to shoot them or slice them.

26. Dante has never used a bow and arrow in his games. Kratos has.

27. GoW is set in a timeline of the myths. DMC is in the present/near future.

28. Kratos is growing insane as time goes by. Dante is not.

29. Dante has some corny one-liners. Kratos does not.

30. Dante has rotten luck with teh chicks. Kratos bangs two of them each time, and has done so countless times before that obviously.

31. Which leads me to another difference, GoW has that minigame. DMC does not.

32. GoW uses feathers to increase the magic bar. DMC doesn't even have a magic bar.

33. GoW is a shallower than DMC when it comes to combat. Instead it focuses more on puzzle-solving, platforming (small aspects here and there), brutally finishing off opponents, and the story.

34. GoW does a much better job at conveying the story than DMC does.

35. GoW is made to look like it is a movie (seamless transitions between levels, no mission screens, etc). DMC is not.

36. DMC gives us bonus orbs in the mission results screen. GoW does not as it does not even have a results screen.

37. Frankly, GoW's boss battles feel a lot more epic than DMC's does.

38. Ares tries to destroy a city. Mundus tries to escape and then destroy the world.

39. Mundus looks like a statue at first and then a blob. Ares does not.

40. Ares is actually a decent antagonist, using psychology and what not against us. All Mundus does is try to kill us and Trish.

41. GoW is heavily laden with glitches and glitch exploits ('good' glitches). I don't think DMC suffers from the same thing (numerous good glitches).

42. Typically, one can very easily make it through GoW runs by using a number of these exploits. DMC does not afford this to us.

43. I'm growing tired of these trivial differences, but I have one last one, DMC and GoW's plot are different (OMIGAWD! HAR HAR, DERP)

~ Bravo if you went through this whole list. I could go on and on and on and on about their differences (trivial idiocies or otherwise), but it is a pointless waste of time as we're both losers trying to debate this; seeing as I'm obviously right when I say that GoW is not a clone because of some trivial similarities ๐Ÿ˜›.

too long didn't read but yep that sums up the deal

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I am a male, but MooBull of Justice doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

Emo and Gangster pants exist. By Emo pants I mean pants like jeans that are WAY too tight. And everybody knows what I mean by Gangster pants. The kids that wear pants two sizes too large and don't wear a belt.

No, they are tight jeans and large, baggy pants.

The "emos" and "gangsters" are just wearing their pants at a larger or smaller size than their own.

How someone wears them does not change what the pants are, this is not an arguable point, this is a factual statement.