Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeWhat does being an FPS have to do with being a good game or not? Like FPS' are inherently bad or something? That is the shittiest logic I have heard in a little while, and is also irrelevant to the point at hand.
Lol. Shut up FA, you think Marathon is a good game. It's an FPS. And nah, Red Skull is leagues above Joker.
Other than being the villain of Captain America, why is Red Skull so great? Joker is an icon.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
And nah, Red Skull is leagues above Joker.
Prove it. Like Neme said, he's one of the few villains that people love and sometimes even root for. The only person that I think compares to that is Doom. Skull really doesn't do anything, outside of Cap's death he's been unused and useless for a long time, getting owned by everyone and their grandma.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You realize Red Skull is basically Joker without the lame clown design, right?
How so? I say that he isn't, but how so? I personally don't like either but Joker is more iconic and successful than Red Skull. Joker has ****ed with and pissed Batman off in more ways and worse ways than Skull has ever affected Cap.
Originally posted by NemeBroWhile he is a an example of whats wrong with marvel currently, he actually has finnaly had some development and isnt as bad anymore. Just took way longer thne it should have
No, Red Hulk is by far a worse character than Wolverine. An incredible God Mode Sue whose only dialogue seems to consist of "I DONT GIVE A FAWK!" Red Hulk is a crippling blow to Marvel's credibility in my eyes.
Originally posted by Phanteros
Red Skull barely even has any outside screen time. Joker is everywhere on outside media. Why? because DC recognizes the character potential, while marvel realize that Red Skull is not so popular and keeps him in the dark because he's lame.
The fact that Red Skull is also a Nazi kind of limits his advertisement potential, imo. There are a lot of people/places in the world that still have a lot of animosity toward Nazi's. It's okay to glorify a mass murderer, like Joker, but it's not okay to glorify a mass murderer that is a Nazi.
Hell even in the DC/Marvel crossover, Joker wouldn't work with RS because he was a Nazi. I thought that was the absolute most idiotic thing I had ever read.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Why?Other than your inherent bad taste. estahuh
I just don't like non-super powerd Villains period. The fact that he's any kind of threat to Batman, and is still alive, irritates to me to no end, and bores me. Every Batman/Joker exchange ends in pretty much the same way.
I can't believe we're actually using popularity to discuss this. Popularity says shit like Twilight is fantastic literature and Dane Cook is absolutely hilarious. It's not always right.
I don't get to read any comics, but I don't remember Joker actually killing Batman, or if he even wants to for that matter. Red Skull actually killed Cap, and got a woman he was in love with (I think) to deal the death blow.
Red Skull is Hitler's apprentice, if I recall, and is probably more evil than Joker will ever be. I chalk up half of Joker's fanbase up to sometimes funny jokes and his lame clown design.
Originally posted by jalek moyeThis may be true, I admittedly have not read anything recent about him, was put off by the happenings of before.
While he is a an example of whats wrong with marvel currently, he actually has finnaly had some development and isnt as bad anymore. Just took way longer thne it should have
May look into it.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wolverine gets beaten a lot, anyone with range can do well against him like Cyclops. Cyclops hands him his ass every time. Rulk punching and killing cosmic entities, killing Surfer, killing and beating everyone and their grandma and then losing to everyone the next day is just horrible. Wolverine is bad, he became "Super great" over time, Rulk came out as the baddest Deus Ex Machina.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I can't believe we're actually using popularity to discuss this. Popularity says shit like Twilight is fantastic literature and Dane Cook is absolutely hilarious. It's not always right.I don't get to read any comics, but I don't remember Joker actually killing Batman, or if he even wants to for that matter. Red Skull actually killed Cap, and got a woman he was in love with (I think) to deal the death blow.
Red Skull is Hitler's apprentice, if I recall, and is probably more evil than Joker will ever be. I chalk up half of Joker's fanbase up to sometimes funny jokes and his lame clown design.
Hitler is no where near as evil as Joker.
Also, I do believe the Joker has killed Batman at some time or other.
And naw. Joker kills people just because. How do you get moar evil then that?
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeNon of that is nothing compared to what Joker has done. He cripple a bat girl, and blow up a robin and killed the mom of that said Robin was desperately looking for. Prior to that he beat that said robin to death Gordan freeman style.
I can't believe we're actually using popularity to discuss this. Popularity says shit like Twilight is fantastic literature and Dane Cook is absolutely hilarious. It's not always right.I don't get to read any comics, but I don't remember Joker actually killing Batman, or if he even wants to for that matter. Red Skull actually killed Cap, and got a woman he was in love with (I think) to deal the death blow.
Red Skull is Hitler's apprentice, if I recall, and is probably more evil than Joker will ever be. I chalk up half of Joker's fanbase up to sometimes funny jokes and his lame clown design.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican1. This part is actually true, Red Skull is not as well-known partly due to his SS background.
The fact that Red Skull is also a Nazi kind of limits his advertisement potential, imo. There are a lot of people/places in the world that still have a lot of animosity toward Nazi's. It's okay to glorify a mass murderer, like Joker, but it's not okay to glorify a mass murderer that is a Nazi.Hell even in the DC/Marvel crossover, Joker wouldn't work with RS because he was a Nazi. I thought that was the absolute most idiotic thing I had ever read.
I just don't like non-super powerd Villains period. The fact that he's any kind of threat to Batman, and is still alive, irritates to me to no end, and bores me. Every Batman/Joker exchange ends in pretty much the same way.
2. That was really ****ing stupid admittedly... People love to look at the Reich as some Cthulhu-esque organization of monsters, but Joker would in fact be viewed as a monster even among the Reich.
3. The Joker is still alive due to Batman's loser faggotry, which is one of the reasons I hate him. I would not mind Joker being so competent that he could elude being killed, but Batman letting Joker survive has resulted in many more deaths than there should be. Joker is awesome enough for me to forgive such things, Batman is not.