Woohoo, official off-topic thread!

Started by NemeBro3,949 pages

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Only the first half of the post was trolling.

I meant Tau, not Tyranids. Tyranids are fine.

Which is irrelevant because if you pull back the

Nobody complains about Cthulhu because he is a character in a single, extremely short, story. He didn't need to have character development or any real flavor besides being horrific because Cthulhu wasn't designed to hold people's interest long enough to sell more shit down the long. Gaunt's Ghosts, the by far most popular and best selling book series in the black library, consists of thirteen full length novels. Could Cthulhu with the mannerisms that he had in The Call of Cthulhu, carry 14 novels as the primary antagonist or protagonist? Nope. Ibram Gaunt can though, despite being a far less complex character. Buuuut that's just my point. There's a reason why, despite allll the fantastical and unique factions in the WH40K universe, it's the same old same old regular humans, the Imperial Guard, the Inquisition, etc etc, who are by far the most popular factions in the mythos. There's a reason why there's 14 Gaunt's Ghost novels, dozens of Space Marine novels and omnibuses, multiple ominbuses with Commisars as the Protagonist, and multiple Inquisition omnibuses, yet there are a whopping... zero stories that take place from a Necron perspective. There's like, 2 or 3 books that have Necrons in them at all. Again, there's a reason for this. GW is a for profit company. If there was a high demand for more Necron content then there would be more Necron content.

I don't understand the problem with the Tau that you seem to believe exists.

I could switch Cthulhu out with any cosmic horror, but that's really beside the point. And yes, Cthulhu could. Considering how he has become iconic and, despite not being the main antagonist in any more of Lovecraft's work, has been the primary antagonist in many other works, spin-offs, tabletops RPGs, etc. So clearly people are not bored of Cthulhu.

Because they are easier to relate to, but the idea that every character/faction needs to be relateable is a simplistic notion. Orkz do not have a book taking place from their perspective (Though I maintain a novel told from the point of view of a Gretchin would be amazing), same with Tyranids, or Dark Eldar. Dark Eldar in particular IIRC appear less often than Necrons actually. And wanna know why Necrons do not show up as, say, Orkz? Because if they showed up all the time, they would lose credibility as a threat. They are meant to be a looming, enigmatic threat that doesn't show up willy nilly all the time like the Orks do, while not the overall greatest threat in the galaxy at the moment, they are meant to be a very serious, frightening threat when they show up.

The Necrons are a villainous faction, beyond that, they are not even a somewhat sympathetic villainous faction, like the Thousand Sons are. They are monolithic, enigmatic, cosmic horrors, some change and expansion is good, but the notion that alien species should be humanised is frankly ridiculous. The Necrons were never meant to be a protagonist faction. Don't pretend they should be changed to make them one.

Because I told you to, Little Green.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It is a cool fight. If only because that is like the only time Zed fought.

Yeah.. He should've fought more often like Goldar if anything. Then again, probably would've just made him more of a joke than he already was when Saban started toning him down.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Besides as the evil green ranger you mean? That probably wouldn't count though I guess, since they completely tied in a martial arts tournament at the gym before Tommy became evil for awhile.

He occasionally asked Jason for advice when it came to leadership related stuff too, IIRC. Funny that Tommy admitted that though, since he arguably has some better feats against Goldar, Lord Zedd, and the like, in addition to that stopping a monster with one hand scenario.

Proof? 313 I don't remember this. mmm

They tied on points, but on impact, Jason did better. All of Jason's points came from solid hits that knocked Tommy on his ass. 2 of Tommy's points came from Jason going out of bounds and from a trip/takedown, which is less impressive. Jason also got the last hit in within that tournament, bragging rights.

Jason beat Goldar when Goldar was still a serious character. Tommy beat Goldar after he turned into a joke.

Originally posted by NemeBro
[B]I don't understand the problem with the Tau that you seem to believe exists.

That they're redundant and boring and not popular.

And yes, Cthulhu could. Considering how he has become iconic and, despite not being the main antagonist in any more of Lovecraft's work, has been the primary antagonist in many other works, spin-offs, tabletops RPGs, etc. So clearly people are not bored of Cthulhu.

None of that implies Cuthhulu could carry 14 novels through strength of his character. The fact that he even exists only in spin-offs is also proof of that.

Because they are easier to relate to, but the idea that every character/faction needs to be relateable is a simplistic notion. Orkz do not have a book taking place from their perspective (Though I maintain a novel told from the point of view of a Gretchin would be amazing), same with Tyranids, or Dark Eldar. Dark Eldar in particular IIRC appear less often than Necrons actually. And wanna know why Necrons do not show up as, say, Orkz? Because if they showed up all the time, they would lose credibility as a threat. They are meant to be a looming, enigmatic threat that doesn't show up willy nilly all the time like the Orks do, while not the overall greatest threat in the galaxy at the moment, they are meant to be a very serious, frightening threat when they show up.

There's already a looming, enigmatic threat, and it's not a bunch of soulless robot zombies, either.

The Necrons are a villainous faction, beyond that, they are not even a somewhat sympathetic villainous faction, like the Thousand Sons are. They are monolithic, enigmatic, cosmic horrors, some change and expansion is good, but the notion that alien species should be humanised is frankly ridiculous. The Necrons were never meant to be a protagonist faction. Don't pretend they should be changed to make them one. [/QUOTE]

Necrons are meant to be very popular and make Games Workshop a lot of money, like the Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Inquisition etc. have. Nothing more.

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I say we turn this into a White Wimmen pitcher postin' thread like Comic Vs did some time ago.

Ahem.

WHERE DA WHITE WIMMIN AT?

God damn it now I'm stuck watching power rangers videos on youtube.

Thank you very much uhuh

You're welcome. evillaugh

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That they're redundant and boring and not popular.

None of that implies Cuthhulu could carry 14 novels through strength of his character. The fact that he even exists only in spin-offs is also proof of that.

There's already a looming, enigmatic threat, and it's not a bunch of soulless robot zombies, either.

Necrons are meant to be very popular and make Games Workshop a lot of money, like the Imperial Guard, Space Marines, Inquisition etc. have. Nothing more.

Blax we are all aware of your bad taste, no need to tell me. They are redundant only if you are trolling, which you are. "Boring" to you equals "not relateable/human," so clearly you're just close-minded. Not popular? Are they as popular as the Imperium? No, of course not, no other faction is. But the Necrons, like every faction, has a signifigant number of fans as well. Although humor me, what makes the Tau redundant?

Or, you know, because Lovecraft died at 41. And Cthulhu didn't carry Call of Cthulhu with strength of character either but that is besides the point. He exists in several very popular spin-offs, and continues to be a popular character to feature in said spin-offs, that make more money than the novel itself ever did for Lovecraft, sadly.

There are three looming, enigmatic threats. Stop trolling.

The Imperium makes the bulk of their money, yes. Is that supposed to be something new to me?

Perhaps you cannot appreciate cosmic horror in a faction, or just find the Necrons boring. That is fine, you're entitled to your opinion.

But don't tell me that something inherently is wrong with the Necrons just because you find them to be boring. Plenty do not, and changing their entire faction, retconning everything about them, completely alienates the fanbase, as well as several now established facts of the setting, and a few novels too. Nightbringer, for instance. 😐

Like man...I totally digged the "armored" look the rangers had in the first movie. Such a terrible movie though LOL But I can't blame it...it was aimed for kids and all of that.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
They tied on points, but on impact, Jason did better. All of Jason's points came from solid hits that knocked Tommy on his ass. 2 of Tommy's points came from Jason going out of bounds and from a trip/takedown, which is less impressive. Jason also got the last hit in within that tournament, bragging rights.

Jason beat Goldar when Goldar was still a serious character. Tommy beat Goldar after he turned into a joke.


Yeah, that's true. Forgot to take that into account about Goldar.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
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Nice... I kinda forgot about the extended theme up until now.

These were some of my favorite songs from Ron that I remember in the show, even though the lyrics still hardly make any sense to me.

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Kinda makes me wish I had gotten the Power Rangers soundtrack from back in the day, lol. Ah well...

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Like man...I totally digged the "armored" look the rangers had in the first movie. Such a terrible movie though LOL But I can't blame it...it was aimed for kids and all of that.

You mean the one with Ivan Ooze? Yeah. I just wish it had been made when Jason and Zack were still in the show, and when Tommy was the green ranger. Kinda liked him better as that than I did the White.

If you never saw the Turbo movie or any of the ones after MMPR, then consider yourself lucky.

I never saw them. Now I wonder if I should...just to see how bad they were...and yep. Season 1 will always be the best cast. I don't know why but the only replacement I could somewhat tolerate was Adam.

Ninja Storm and Dino thunder where my favorites. I can't keep NS's theme song out of my head.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I never saw them. Now I wonder if I should...just to see how bad they were...and yep. Season 1 will always be the best cast. I don't know why but the only replacement I could somewhat tolerate was Adam.

Well it doesn't get much worse than that little kid taking Rocky's place as the blue turbo ranger just because he broke his arm in a ring (the kid always automatically grew a few inches each time he morphed), not to mention all the zords being typical looking cars (I facepalm'ed when the kid said this would be the only car he wouldn't have to get his driver's license for). And yeah, that was all in the Turbo movie. The only thing refreshing about it was the appearances Jason and Kimberly made as fanservice. They may have not been rangers anymore, but they could still kick ass.

Agreed about the season 1 cast and about Adam kinda. Still find it sad how Trini's actress died in a car accident, mostly because she wasn't wearing her seatbelt...

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Well it doesn't get much worse than that little kid taking Rocky's place as the blue turbo ranger just because he broke his arm in a ring (the kid always automatically grew a few inches each time he morphed), not to mention all the zords being typical looking cars (I facepalm'ed when the kid said this would be the only car he wouldn't have to get his driver's license for). And yeah, that was all in the Turbo movie. The only thing refreshing about it was the appearances Jason and Kimberly made as fanservice. They may have not been rangers anymore, but they could still kick ass.

Agreed about the season 1 cast and about Adam kinda. Still find it sad how Trini's actress died in a car accident, mostly because she wasn't wearing her seatbelt...

Wow sounds completely retarded. Agreed about Trini. I used to think she died when she left the series(you know...childhood gossips and shit) then I was glad I found out she was alive only to lose her in 01. =\

I think they deliberately tried to destroy Power Rangers as we knew it with Turbo if anything, or they were just trying to appeal to a new or different brand of audience, but either way it was a hiccup, and Tommy leaving in the midst of the season/series sealed the deal for most.

Strangely enough, I used to think she died too for some reason just after leaving the show. Forgot why now, but I guess our predictions or whatever before '01 weren't too far off.
=(

Also, wth. I had no idea this game existed for the PS2/PC. Was apparently made for Power Ranger's 15 anniversary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlo3sZLzrfs

Glad I didn't get the game, as it looked terrible even for its time, but it kinda made me think about what a much more up-to-date version of a PR game would be like (in terms of graphics, voice acting, and all that), especially if it involved some free roaming or somethin' and not mere sidescrolling. Meh, it seems unlikely to ever happen anytime soon anyway, just like there being a good Superman game that doesn't get cancelled.

Power Rangers had its moments after Mighty Morphin. So it's worth a little credit gais. 😛

Dino Thunder comes to mind. I personally also liked NS and Mystic Force for some reason, along with SPD. I know a lot of people liked Time Force and considered it the best of the series ever. And then there is In Space.

I remember when they teamed up with the Ninja Turtles.

In Space was the best series. estahuh

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Proof? 313 I don't remember this. mmm

Behold the secret to my knowledge!

Its 3.30 minutes in. I recommend watching the other episodes in his retrospective. They are soooooooo good.