Originally posted by Endless MikeNo, Am was weakened immensely. I don't care if they were near equals. You don't transfer feats and he was weakened. Greatly weakened.
Sorry but Earth-2 Superman fought Earth-1 equally and COIE was in the Bronze Age where Superman had officially been depowered from the Silver Age. And A-M in that state was still pretty damn strong.
Originally posted by Endless MikeDrax has ripped a star in half. What does that prove ? Nothing.
It's called powerscaling. And he was still strong enough to fly through an exploding star unharmed.BTW, the one who weakened him was Darkseid, who you think is worthless, so therefore more of the feat goes to Superman 😆
Darkseid's tech through Luthor iirc. Huge group effort to win. You act like Kal-L just decked him.
Originally posted by Endless MikeIt proves Kal-L's strength when he was extremely weakened. This isn't Kal-L. I love how you can't name a single instance of PC Superman's awesome oneshotting yet you are convinced he ways. I am sure it's(your case) based entirely on reputation alone.
It proves his physical strength. And yeah, he did just deck him. I'd bet flaming head Anti-Monitor is at least Herald level.
Originally posted by Endless MikeI can show him not being ko'd by a cancerverse universally empowered blade. You can't even give me one single showing of Kal-el.
Yeah, and Kal-L at that point (Bronze Age) was way weaker than Silver Age Kal-El. Get over it. Why don't you show me Thanos taking a punch from a guy who can pull a billion planets at once and remaining conscious?
Originally posted by Endless MikePunching also requires skill. If a bodybuilder benches 500 pounds that doesn't mean he hits as hard as an experienced boxer. I wish people understood this very simple concept.
Do you somehow not understand the concept that punching is a type of physical motion, thus all feats of physical strength with the arms count for it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Punching also requires skill. If a bodybuilder benches 500 pounds that doesn't mean he hits as hard as an experienced boxer. I wish people understood this very simple concept.
Everyone understands the concept.
But unfortunately you are talking about a tiny scale where technique still matters; the human scale.
Once you get past a certain pay grade, slightly differing form maximizing things like torque and what not, e.g. technique; become next to irrelevant factors.
Originally posted by Endless MikeDrax can rip stars in half yet his strength is nothing compared to Thanos'. We aren't comparing Superman to normal human beings.
The difference between the maximum lifting ability of a boxer and a weightlifter is nonexistent compared to the difference between a boxer and a guy WHO PUSHES AROUND ****ING PLANETS AND STARS.
Compare ripping one star with both hands to pushing a star at FTL speed by blowing on it. Arm muscles >>>>>>>>>>>> mouth and throat muscles. Or Supergirl punching through War World, which was not only bigger than a star, but armored with advanced alien tech, and doing so while she was unconscious. Or throwing a spaceship to the other side of the galaxy (which requires throwing it at a ridiculous speed faster than light).
Here he is beating the crap out of Mongul (who was partially the inspiration for Thanos, and who Starlin worked on before. PC Mongul >>>>> Thanos in the physical department):
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul1.jpg
Originally posted by Endless MikeInteresting both scans have Superman admitting he is probably not as strong as his opponent and that he has to keep him distracted.
Compare ripping one star with both hands to pushing a star at FTL speed by blowing on it. Arm muscles >>>>>>>>>>>> mouth and throat muscles. Or Supergirl punching through War World, which was not only bigger than a star, but armored with advanced alien tech, and doing so while she was unconscious. Or throwing a spaceship to the other side of the galaxy (which requires throwing it at a ridiculous speed faster than light).Here he is beating the crap out of Mongul (who was partially the inspiration for Thanos, and who Starlin worked on before. PC Mongul >>>>> Thanos in the physical department):
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul1.jpg
Like I said the star feats don't really have anything to do with these characters otherwise Hulk and any regular hero just is flat out stronger feat based. This doesn't have anything to do with how these guys match up.
I see Superman admitting Thanos' superiority in strength before he goes down. Thanos has tanked far superior power than Superman's punches.
Originally posted by Endless MikeThose are just feats which don't determine anything. Thanos never tore a star in half but that doesn't mean someone who can has a shot at the title.
Yeah, and Mongul would tear Thanos a new one too, so your point? Show me Thanos tanking a physical blow comparable to that of a guy who can tow a galaxy full of planets and move stars with his breath.
Quit making baseless claims that he'd end Thanos. Just a little bit ago you tried using a Kal-L feat for Kal-el.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Compare ripping one star with both hands to pushing a star at FTL speed by blowing on it. Arm muscles >>>>>>>>>>>> mouth and throat muscles. Or Supergirl punching through War World, which was not only bigger than a star, but armored with advanced alien tech, and doing so while she was unconscious. Or throwing a spaceship to the other side of the galaxy (which requires throwing it at a ridiculous speed faster than light).Here he is beating the crap out of Mongul (who was partially the inspiration for Thanos, and who Starlin worked on before. PC Mongul >>>>> Thanos in the physical department):
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Precrisis/?action=view¤t=supermanvsmongul1.jpg
Mongul was a beast.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Interesting both scans have Superman admitting he is probably not as strong as his opponent and that he has to keep him distracted.Like I said the star feats don't really have anything to do with these characters otherwise Hulk and any regular hero just is flat out stronger feat based. This doesn't have anything to do with how these guys match up.
I see Superman admitting Thanos' superiority in strength before he goes down. Thanos has tanked far superior power than Superman's punches.
