Pfft. Raiden wouldn't fight Hayabusa. He would consider him a great asset for the forces of earthrealm.
---
Raiden has mastered all of more than 750 documented varieties of Jujutsu. Jujutsu is Raiden's secondary fighting style.
^ That's nasty.
Raiden takes on Shang Tsung & QuanChi
Yes. Hayabusa is screwed. Only way Hayabusa will stand a chance is if Raiden adopts a mortal body, but those chances are slim.
Raiden 9-10/10. I give Hayabusa 1 if Raiden drops his immortality and fights in stupid mode.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeAnd none of it makes me think they are in Ryu's level. Really, they are fighting slow compared to Ryu.
Now you're under rating them. You need to take into consideration that during that time the Deadly Alliance was amped by countless souls. You see that green flame wall thing behind them? Those are the souls of countless warriors being manipulated and used by Shang Tsung and Quan Chi.
Smoke can destroy worlds I believe...
The elder gods could also.
Raiden was in a fight that was so intense it was tearing apart the world in fact.
Information such as how Hayabusa is fighting (H2H, with TDS, with DDB or PSMk.II) is not given. H2H I would say Raiden has greater chances. I see Ryu having the ability to take him down from seeing what Quan Chi and Shang Tsung did to take down Raiden. Ryu's ninpo and chi will be all that he needs. With his strongest weapons he can pull it off for sure.
As a side note Hayabusa is far from being overrated. The title of the most overrated character in versus would go to either Akuma or Bison, hands down. What I've also gotten sick of are the number of haters calling the TDS a plot device. Apparently anything else discussed in versus aren't plot devices. The Soul Edge, WMDs, the Master Sword, any energy weapons in general, etc. are all not plot devices because they're not from Ninja Gaiden, or at least that's what it seems to be. What some people fail to understand is that the TDS is a weapon holding power just like any other weapon that does, yet it's the only weapon called a plot device by haters.
People seem to have their own definition of plot device and I'm not going to bother to describe each one. What's sickening is that the TDS is referred to as a plot device in any thread regarding Ryu Hayabusa, yet in any other thread that involves a different characters using a weapon of power the weapon being used isn't referred to as a plot device. Heck even when nobody stated that the character is using a weapon people argue as if that character automatically has the weapon, yet everyone assumes Hayabusa is fighting with only his limbs and refers to the DS as a plot device for the heck of it.
Like I told you PIS is I don't like it it didn't happen.
When someone disagrees about a character being able to do something with a given weapon they just classify it as either PIS or Plot Device.
What irritates me about it is that Hayabusa beat more than one person with the TDS. Had he only used it against Vigoor with DDB and Murai with DDB then yes it's a plot device given it's the only weapon that can match the DDB. However Hayabusa took on Alma's 2nd form, Doku's energy form and the protector of the fiend realm. That CAN be used to gauge the TDS's power because it isn't a plot device for them.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeYou yourself have used this term on a number of occasions. Examples of PIS: Seph constantly underestimating Cloud, despite the fact he has killed him before, Link beating Ganon, and possibly Snake beating Boss but I'm not to sure about that.
PIS = "I don't like it it didn't happen."
I never said I'm not guilty.
However Sephiroth & Cloud's deal is CIS not PIS. Sephiroth is so stupid that he cannot realize he needs to take Cloud seriously. But then again if he actually did Cloud would be dead and the bad guy would win.
About Naked Snake & The Boss it is 50/50. You need to remember The Boss's mission was to die for her country. She also whooped Big Boss's ass more than 3 times. However Naked Snake did show slow improvement after each time they fought.
Link's Master Sword is a Plot Device for Ganon. Same as the TDS being a Plot Device for the DDB.
And once again, nothing states that the TDS only works on certain enemies. I've put up with a some ignorant members in particular about this and I found myself refuting statements such as, "Ryu only used the TDS in the Fiend Realm", "The TDS only works on the Fiends", "The TDS only works on the VE" and so on. It isn't surprising however since those were statements of people who've not played Ninja Gaiden apparently.
I agree that it works more effectively against evil, but it's still a powerful weapon against countless adversaries. I'm not sure the same thing applies to the DDB though. Gamov was evil and look at how the the blade destroyed him with a hit.
As a side note colonel40 is a DOA hater, though he's still somewhat my friend...for a reason...