The Chicken or the Egg?
Did God create the universe, or did the universe create God?
If God created the universe, what created God?
If the Universe created God, what created the Universe?
Everything has to have a beginning right?
This is a religion based question 🙂 Not asking for the evolutionary path 😄
Unless they are connected of course oh
Originally posted by RogerRamjet
err...i think that belongs into the philosophy section of this forum..😕
there is one on the philosophy question. This one has a Religious touch.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Every time I try think of something without a beginning I get a headache 😛It has to start somehow 😐
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You state that as if it was a fact, but it might not be.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Every time I try think of something without a beginning I get a headache 😛It has to start somehow 😐
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Originally posted by inimalist
[b]2) The brainOur brains are not perfect. Even in the most basic visual scenes, your brain is making HUGE generalizations and assumptions about the world around it in order to filter down the incredible ammount of stimuli information comming in at any one time. One of these automatic generalizing processes is the idea of cause and effect. Because we live in a world where everything that happens does have a very obvious cause (the level of reality where Newtonian physics hold) there is no need for our brain to have the ability to concieve of events without a cause in the classical Newtonian sense. This skill is what can lead people to believe in ghosts or other supernatural phenomena to explain events they can't understand, since our brains NEED that explanation. In fact, the more intense the effect, the more signifigant of a cause there must be, which is the root of conspiracy theories.
There are 2 major reasons for this:
a) Evolution: Since there are no "causeless" events in the environment that our anscestors came from, there would never have been a selection pressure for creatures that could comprehend causeless things. Also, it is easy to see why a creature that saw very signifigant causes in trivial events could have a higher survival hance than those who are less reactive. If every time some proto mammal heard a twig break behind it, it runs assuming it is a predator, that mammal will have a huge advantage over one that decides to investigate the sound.
b) Neuroplasticity: When a human is born, they have far more neurons in their brains than are necessary. What happens, is various sets of neurons release various hormones that allow other neurons to make the proper connections for brains to work properly. These hormones are released in response to incomming stimuli from the world around the developing child. An amazing thing to note is that, even though this process is unique to each individual, the fact that the world around us is so constant allows each of our brains to arrange themselves in VERY VERY similar ways. Again, since there are no causeless events in the world, there is no need for any neural connections to form that could interpret events without a cause. A proof of this whole thing comes from an experiment done with kittens. For the first part of the kitten's life, it was reared in an environment that lacked horizontal lines. Once the brain had finished developing, and the kitten was placed into a natural environment, they were incapable of processing horizontal stimuli. Moral of the story, if it isn't something that our brains have learned how to process from the environment they have been previously exposed to, there is no way we can immagine it.
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Originally posted by C. C. CowgirlCoupla things... 😈
[b]To create a circle you have to drop your pencil somewhere ✅ [/B]
1. I didn't say anything about creating the circle; just if I showed you one, already drawn. Where is the beginning?
2. Remember in geometry, when your teacher made a dot on the blackboard and said, "This represents a point"? This point -- as a concept -- is dimensionless, while the chalk dot obviously wasn't. The point (pun intended) was to focus on the concept, not the literal depiction. Same thing with the circle. The drawing of a circle is only a representation of the concept. In a circle -- as a pure geometric concept -- where does it start?
Re: The Chicken or the Egg?
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Did God create the universe, or did the universe create God?If God created the universe, what created God?
If the Universe created God, what created the Universe?
Everything has to have a beginning right?
This is a religion based question 🙂 Not asking for the evolutionary path 😄
Unless they are connected of course oh
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Man created god.
The universe was never created. The universe has always been in one form or another for all time.
No, according to Christian mythology, god does not have a beginning.
Re: The Chicken or the Egg?
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl
[b]Did God create the universe, or did the universe create God?If God created the universe, what created God?
If the Universe created God, what created the Universe?
Everything has to have a beginning right?
This is a religion based question 🙂 Not asking for the evolutionary path 😄
Unless they are connected of course oh
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Depends who you ask.
Abrahamic religions: The universe was created by God, God always was. Time is N/A to Him.
Hinduism: The universe is with in the womb of the sustainer Goddess. (Can't remember her name)
Taoism: They subscribe to the cosmic egg belief, which is similar to the big bang theory.