M. Bison vs Kasumi and Ayane

Started by StyleTime6 pages

Are you sure that was him? It didn't look like it was on his own.

What did it look like to you then?

It's very clear, it's Bison doing an unamplified Psycho Crusher. rushing towards the city, before Chun Li intercepts him with a shot from that gigantic gun.

Right there is the proof, he couldn't have been usingthe guns to either amp himself, or to shoot the city, because chunny is too busy redirecting it at Bison.

Oops. I just realized I am thinking about the Chun Li "bad" ending.

Yes, he was Psycho Driving there alone in the "good" one, but he never actually blew up the city. If we say he could, it'll lead to a situation like the one with Jinpachi.

I don't know why we're stuck on this. Bison should beat them without blowing up a city.

I was actually going to bring up what StyleTime just said. Apparently now when Tekken fighters have certain capabilities that haven't been demonstrated for the sake of the plot, they're not legitimate, yet when you're a Street Fighter what you could have done but failed to is automatically a feat for you since...well...you're a Street Fighter dammit!

Point: Not only did Bison ever destroy a city since Chun Li's ending isn't canonical, he wasn't even shown destroying a city, yet a few people here whine about Jinpachi not being shown destroying the planet as he planned on to from the start.

Not a feat for Bison. Next.

Bison was not shown doing anything but flying around like a bird, but we do know one thing. He can be destroyed by the psycho drive can he not? The answer to that would be yes, and I strongly believe that Ayane's destructive spell would do him in. Taking into consideration how fast Kasumi is in battle, and taking into account that she has a sword she could very well kill Bison, unless Bison could parry blades with his hands which I doubt he could do. I am aware that he can fly around using the Psycho Crusher. Though, if I'm not mistaken that energy is finite without the Psycho Drive, since he had at least once to retreat to the Psycho Drive when he was losing his energy against Ryu, and I could care less if it's PIS. It just happens to prove my point. The Psycho Drive is by all means a plot device since not only would it have to be carried to the place they're battling in (meaning whatever universe) he has to freaking retreat to it to get more of its energy. The Kunoichis can outlast him with speed and teleportation until he runs out of his energy. What would he do then? Most likely die by his opponents.

I'm not giving the girls greater chances here, but Bison's being ridiculously overrated, and he's definitely not as strong as some people give him credit for. That's a fact that some people here should understand.

Jinpaichi was never stated to be able to destroy anything. He just said he will destroy everything, and his ending indicated that the world would never be the same again.

1. It was revealed that he can. Watch Lei Wulong's storymode. The dialogue, despite not being canonical, between him and Jinpachi is a revelation nonetheless, of how Jinpachi was revived and the reason as to why the devil revived him. Search for Lei Wulong interludes on youtube.

2. Strange Charlie only stated that Bison was going to destroy the capital. You do know that right?

3. Yes, the world would not have been the same again, just like the capital in SFA3. Say if Bison did actually destroy the city with the psycho crusher. Would it still be there? Of course, just wrecked up like how Jinpachi would've done so to the entire planet.

1. He was just told by the monster to destroy the world, he was never indicated to be able to do so.

2. Okay, and?

3. Charlie said he was going to destroy the captial means he's going to destroy the capital. The world not being the same again means alot of things.

1. It would be kind of stupid to make it seem as if the devil could destroy the world, yet not make him able to do so. That would be like saying Namco is lying, not to mention is the equivalent of saying Charlie didn't know what the hell he was talking about, or simply believed that Bison was going to destroy the capital.

2. The only argument you have of Bison being capable of destroying a city is Charlie's words, really, since there's nothing else indicating that he can. It is assumed that he can do it, and it's plainly obvious that if he wasn't stopped he would've done so. Jinpachi's case is the same.

3. I've explained this. For all we know Charlie was delusional. What both of them can do is assumed and is obvious.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear
1. It would be kind of stupid to make it seem as if the devil could destroy the world, yet not make him able to do so. That would be like saying Namco is lying, not to mention is the equivalent of saying Charlie didn't know what the hell he was talking about, or simply believed that Bison was going to destroy the capital.

Nowhere did it seem that Jinpaichi could destroy the world.

Originally posted by Guilty Gear

2. The only argument you have of Bison being capable of destroying a city is Charlie's words, really, since there's nothing else indicating that he can. It is assumed that he can do it, and it's plainly obvious that if he wasn't stopped he would've done so. Jinpachi's case is the same.

3. I've explained this. For all we know Charlie was delusional. What both of them can do is assumed and is obvious.


Then same applies to everyone in Tekkens dialogue about jinpiachi, There all delusional.

Why is it ok to state Bison can destroy the capital city because Charlie said so; but it's not ok to say Jinpachi can destroy the world with quotes from characters in Tekken.

We either accept both or we do not is his point, I believe.

It may've not seemed like that to you. That's fine. If you want to believe Bison could destroy a city yet Jinpachi can't destroy the world, go for it.

That's it, dialogue. They are words and not actions. It is assumed (by a number of people) That Jinpachi could do said feat with support from diaolgue. Bison's case is no different, and he's the one relevant to this thread.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Why is it ok to state Bison can destroy the capital city because Charlie said so; but it's not ok to say Jinpachi can destroy the world with quotes from characters in Tekken.

We either accept both or we do not is his point, I believe.

Cosigned.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Why is it ok to state Bison can destroy the capital city because Charlie said so; but it's not ok to say Jinpachi can destroy the world with quotes from characters in Tekken.

What quotes indicated that Jinpaichi could destroy the world? Because that's what I've been asking. I'm not hell bent on denying him anything, but I want at least one quote.

That's up to Guilty to provide. I was just making sure you 2 were speaking on the same terms. 🙂

Last time I checked, Alpha 3's bad ending has the satellite destroying the city, meanwhile T5's bad ending just says the world will never be the same.

There is a BIG difference.

Jinpach destroyin the world is just ludicrous, he can destroy the world but get's soloed by Jin WTF?!

The Jinpachi over hype is running deep in this thread, yo.

No. Not really. It's only running through one person.

Anyway I don't see the point of any of the arguing is. Bison destroys both without using his hands and with his eyes closed. And, of course, he's smiling all the way.

Btw, Bison is the power source for the satellite and for the Psycho Drive. So it's his own damn power being used. 😛

Ayane is a beast when it comes to assit, but Kasumi won't be able to stall Bison on her own in order for Ayane to be real effective.

Doesn't matter how good she is, it won't help.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Doesn't matter how good she is, it won't help.

It would help, but I don't think she would overcome bison. The results would be much better as opposed to now.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
Doesn't matter how good she is, it won't help.
The odds would increase that's for sure.