Hayden kills these films

I think it is a combination of three things as to why the Anakin Skywalker character kills the PT movies:

-Hayden is a not an awful actor, but he is not a good one either. His delivery of whatever he says is flat and unconvincing, and I guarantee if he weren't a good looking guy, he wouldn't even be an actor. Lucas needed a great actor cause he had to carry all these dramatic moments for everyone to feel his tragedy. A great actor is able to seize on dramatic moments to cement themselves in the role, and Hayden didn't do it once in AOTC/ROTS.

-Lucas dialogue and direction were pretty poor, and that is because he is making a tragic dramatic story of this character in the realm of a 1930's cheesy serials he grew up with, and the two don't mix! If you watch those Flash Gordon serials Lucas & Spielberg loved, they didn't have any dramatic moments and they didn't flesh out any characters the way the PT did with Anakin, so it comes off as......cheesy, just the way Lucas wanted it.

-The Anakin character was never sympathetic or even cool from the first minute of AOTC. He should have been this cool ass cocky jedi who was cool under pressure and the audience would want to be like him, so when he finally becomes that tragic figure because of his arrogance, you could relate to him. The problem was Lucas made him a whiny, stalker-like, misfit, who turned out to be a prick in many ways and I ended up rooting for Kenobi to kick his ass in ROTS!

-You need to check out the interview where Hayden says that his "Flat" and "monotone" delivery (kinda like JEJ as Darth) was modeled off of a combination of Mark Hamill's and Vaders speech patterns to match their way of delivering dialogue in the OT.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
-You need to check out the interview where Hayden says that his "Flat" and "monotone" delivery (kinda like JEJ as Darth) was modeled off of a combination of Mark Hamill's and Vaders speech patterns to match their way of delivering dialogue in the OT.

I agree greatly.

Which is rather lame... he should have made Anakin a person all by himself. Not ripping off other people's performances. I doubt JEJ ever thought when he was doing the ESB Vader lines: oh... maybe I should try sounding more like Hammill now....

Originally posted by Schecter
oh but werent you paying attention? the heroic anakin we were supposed to be cheering existed between eps 1 and 2, and between 2 and 3. sure we didnt actually get to see him but he was written into the story. oh and what about when he rescued obiwan from that pit of gundarks? so many examples of cheer-worthy heroism. oh but unappreciative and overdemanding fans like you actually want to SEE it with your own two eyes. tsk tsk.

LOL, Paul, LOL.

i thought he did a good job.

hm. interestingly enough, we are now seeing "more" of Anakin's heroism in the clone wars tv shows.

and hayden's not exactly in it. and lucas... I don't know much about CW to tell if Lucas is totally wrapped up in it or not - he is, right? idk.

hm... considering that lots of the clone wars - the tv show today, anyway - episodes "suck" (I for one "irrationally" don't think so), and it being blatantly ignoring canon (*sigh*), now we're seeing less whiny Anakin and more heroic Anakin.

as I have said, blatantly ignoring canon >>.

I saw Jumper... Hayden can actually act fairly decently.

Originally posted by queeq
I saw Jumper... Hayden can actually fairly decently.

That is what my friend tells me. I need to see it, he says it is pretty good.

I think the script is what threw him off a bit for ROTS.

I thought jumper was retarded.

I think Hayden did a great job in both films. watch life as a house that was a good film of his.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
I think Hayden did a great job in both films.

I thought he was pretty good most of the time. I like his hair better in ROTS though.

Originally posted by sweersa
I thought he was pretty good most of the time. I like his hair better in ROTS though.

agreed. His hair in AOTC didn't look too good on him.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
agreed. His hair in AOTC didn't look too good on him.

Well, he didn't have a choice. Apparently it's in the Jedi Code to leave a ponytail as an apprentice. I think.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Well, he didn't have a choice. Apparently it's in the Jedi Code to leave a ponytail as an apprentice. I think.

yeah, something like that. human male padawans apparently have a haircut code... thing...

that doesn't mean it looks good on everyone.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
yeah, something like that. human male padawans apparently have a haircut code... thing...

that doesn't mean it looks good on everyone.

Nah, just Ewan I guess.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Nah, just Ewan I guess.

as a Ewan fangirl I'm inclined to agree, but as a fan I have to admit there are shots in which even Ewan looks ridiculous.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
I thought jumper was retarded.

It was. I wasn't saying the movie was excellent, fairly enjoyable for a tv viewing. My point was that Hayden's acting was not as cringeworthy as it was in AOTC and ROTS. And I doubt it's just the script, it may just be the director.

I admit Hayden didn't do so well playing Anakin in AOTC but in ROTS he did better job.

Better, yes.

Meh. i LIKED HIM IN ROTS. To each their own.