Devil Lance vs. Roldz

Judge's Vote

Great match. Both competitors presented some very solid arguments. I'll just get straight to my decision for a change. I usually have a long drawn out explanation but I've been pressed for time lately and I want to have a drink and relax.

The main problem I have with Roldz method of attack is the fact that Carol Danvers' mind, which is not present, has the mental link to the white hole. It's not a "physical" link. I don't see how you can re-establish Carol's mental link without Carol's mind. Dane's mind doesn't have the link, and increasing Dane's mental powers in Carol's body, sans powers, in my mind isn't going to give you the abilities you're saying you'll get. As Devil Lance stated many times in his posts, Warbird is you body character and Dane is your mind. Binary's manipulation and connection to the white hole are psionic, it's true, but it's a link with Carol's mind. Unlike with a cybernetic body which would essentially be turned off as stipulated by Goob in the rules, having an organic body is a lot different as was spelled out. The symbiote doesn't have Carol's link to enhance. I'm just not convinced.

With that said, Devil Lance didn't really provide a manner in which he would put Roldz down after the initial post and spent too much of his time attempting to disprove Roldz attack rather than presenting his own. From what I see he also didn't provide any proof of his mental defenses with scans. This is what tipped the scales in Roldz favor to me.

So where as I don't think Roldz could unlock Carol's mental link without Carol's mind, Devil Lance didn't provide any proof of the defenses he possesses against TP, and unfortunately, if you don't present it I can't consider it.

Good fight DL, but my vote goes to Roldz. If you'd shown proof of Guardian's telepathic defenses it would have changed a lot, but as it stands with the argument and evidence you provided, you'd be vulnerable.

My Vote: Roldz 👆

On a side note, the misting away DL's armor is banned under the offensive matter manipulation rule.

Ok then. Congrats to both participants! And thanks to our judges! DL, well fought. Roldz, congrats and welcome to the semis!

You'll fight Scoobless next. More info in the discussion thread....

Originally posted by illadelph12
[b]Judge's Vote
The main problem I have with Roldz method of attack is the fact that Carol Danvers' mind, which is not present, has the mental link to the white hole. It's not a "physical" link. I don't see how you can re-establish Carol's mental link without Carol's mind. Dane's mind doesn't have the link, and increasing Dane's mental powers in Carol's body, sans powers, in my mind isn't going to give you the abilities you're saying you'll get. As Devil Lance stated many times in his posts, Warbird is you body character and Dane is your mind. Binary's manipulation and connection to the white hole are psionic, it's true, but it's a link with Carol's mind. Unlike with a cybernetic body which would essentially be turned off as stipulated by Goob in the rules, having an organic body is a lot different as was spelled out. The symbiote doesn't have Carol's link to enhance. I'm just not convinced.

My Vote: Roldz 👆

On a side note, the misting away DL's armor is banned under the offensive matter manipulation rule. [/B]

Thanks for the vote judges..

I guess i didnt present a solid argument for Carols Binary's transformation, it was not clear..

What im trying to point out in this debate is that i do not require the mental link to the whitehole, it wouldnt work anyway sans u mentioned it requires Carols mind.. Dane however does have a link to unlimited supply of psionic energy " the Psi-Plane" which would become the powersource for the Binary situation not the Whitehole. As its stated in Newavengers 17-18 Carols Binary powers are still present, it just needs an ample supply of energy to maintain them at that level, Dane's link to the Psi-Plane should be a suitable supply of energy for Binary..

As for the body ive already discuss this w/ Darth prior to the final confirmation thread and he specifically say that the remaining powers within a body that does not belong to physical attribute would be shunt/turned off. Then i mentioned Synergy; she has the ability to activate latent abilities/powers (You get the picture) he says this is okay as long as i can provide proof and would be up to the judges to present my case..

Same w/ Misting armors and weapons, so long as its not towards the body itself..

This is basicly why i changed my privious picks to present..

Anyhow id like to hear from the judges and DG rule on this as Darth is preoccupied right now w/ more personal matters..

Thanks.. And good match DL..

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
A'ight.

Ouch... this is why I prefer Scoob's character. Less of a headache to nitpick with, in terms of powers and strategy.

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