Originally posted by batdude123
Using that argument in every single scenario makes me laugh.If you want to use that logic, then every single feat of strength, speed, durability, etc. for either of them would be applicable for the other one.
You're specifically focusing on encounters they've had with one another (even though it encompasses a [b]minimal
percentage of their total feats) and then completely passing off their other showings like yesterday's garbage.Pretty shitty if I do say so myself.
Law of averages (which you "claim" to use in threads) are more pertinent to forum fights. You can't just discard Superman's other feats or make it seem like Adam can duplicate them.
That's why I hate when people say some nonsense like "well if Hal can do it, you KNOW Kyle could do the exact same thing." Wtf? They're two different Lanterns, don't give me that shit.
If you want to SOLELY use direct comparisons, then Superman is>>>Darkseid. Despite the fact that Darkseid's feats suggest otherwise.
And also, apparently Thor is>>>Galactus.
Now, using feat "law of averages" means that Superman is>>>Black Adam (along with the rest of DC's top tier heroes). I shouldn't even have to explain that one.
Next time Teth is referred to as the most powerful man on the planet, go ahead and let me know. Since that's not likely to happen anytime soon, don't hold your breath.
A sun amped Superman (regardless of whether the fight takes place near the sun) would murder Teth. Regular Superman vs. Adam makes it less of a stomp. [/B]
Now you're being dense.
Thor vs Galactus isn't the same as Superman vs Teth, since Galactus isn't an acknowledged peer to Thor.
Galactus in a weak unto death hungering state<Thor's Godblast.
That isn't to say Galactus<Thor, and you know it.
Batman has the winning record vs Superman, yet you'll never see me saying he's a peer in power, which is what DC says about the shazams.
And it doesn't throw out their feats to say Superman pushing a planet in one comic, isn't proof he's stronger than the Shazams.
It just says that while he's strong enough to overcome a planets weight and gravity, he's not strong enough to overcome the power of Shazam.
The feat still stands Batshit.
Because if you wanna go the direct feat route, GL Kyle>Superman, and Surfer>The conventional top tier as a whole.
But that's just going by feats.
Superman isn't >Darkseid, since we've seen Darkseid handle Superman fine in previous years.
Continuity helps Darkseid a bit.
Darkseid just isn't>>>Superman like we would've said 10 years ago, since in direct combat it's been proven that Darkseid can be beaten, if not for the majority.
Superman isn't as powerful as Surfer.
His powers can't access the range that Surfer's can, tho they can come close sometimes.
But Superman vs Surfer currently, goes to Superman, since he's more battle oriented than Surfer is.
All i'm saying, is that while Superman would likely get the nod in a comic, that comic hasn't been printed yet.
Superman can beat on all the multiversal(ha, the dude created faux realities, not entire universes which is the requirement for multiversal reality warping......keep touting it as that tho) ghoulies he wants, but as long as he stalemates Cap and Teth, he doesn't get the nod.
He gets a split.
And why would a sun amped Superman automatically defeat a powered up Teth?
Cuz he can drop mental blocks?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindteth fought a powered up sbp and didnt have green lamterns and all that backing him up. supermn still got knocked out. poor kal el. an old one died and thereg one got his ass kicked all by a weakened superboy prime. wow. teth doesnt need an older version to help him out. sure he couldnt beat sbp but theres no shame in that. kal el needed tons of help and still passed out. poor superman.
He fought one old clark on his own and then fought one standing in heaps of his own weakness...and lost.Teth got one shotted and laughed at.
There's no way around it.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindif u wanna talk about being a coward. talk about superman taking a year off after sbp kicked his ass. thats a coward. black adam was executing people on tv. teth hits harder than supes. face the facts,
LOL...he got Amazo from behind. What a p*ssy.When Teth had his chance to fight Supes...he backed out.
There is the "direct" encounter you and your boy Uni wanted.
Teth lost. He chickened out.
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Originally posted by batdude123yeah superman holding back is such a crappy argument. 🙄
Superman beat Dominus. Dominus. A multiversal reality warper. U fail.Seriously, get your bullshit out of this thread. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. He ripped Amazo's head off like nothing, but when he punched SBP, it literally tickled him.
Sun amped Superman would own his ass. Regular Superman vs. regular Teth would still be in Superman's favor, because of the "bloodlust" rule where it takes away the character's inhibitions. That pretty much nullifies your "but... but... Superman HOLDS BACK!!!" argument.
😂 @ you.
he does i dont care about bloodlust u would need a rule like that and i stil believe black adam would win. u cant take honor out of superman becuz if u do he isnt the same character. its plain and simple.
batman has beaten superman before.
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teth would kill old brucey. i mean come on now aguy who just executes amazo like nothing. and tells the spectre off. teth doesnt take anyones shit while superman does.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewinddarkseid fought like a man when.
Yes. Even Darkseid fought like a man, even though he lost.Teth backed out like a bi@tch. Unless it's humans that are easy to kill. Then it's ok to go into bloodlust. 😉
the time he begged for quarter. ot the time he cheapshotted superman into the source wall.
why didnt superman see that coming. oh thats right cuz hes an idiot, he rescued darkseid and got planted into the source wall.
superman can be such a putz sometimes.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
if u wanna talk about being a coward. talk about superman taking a year off after sbp kicked his ass. thats a coward. black adam was executing people on tv. teth hits harder than supes. face the facts,
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The year he took off?
Well deserved...while Teth got slapped like a biatch...Supes was out there saving the universe.
Face the facts. Teth was pwned.
Originally posted by quanchi112
darkseid fought like a man when.the time he begged for quarter. ot the time he cheapshotted superman into the source wall.
why didnt superman see that coming. oh thats right cuz hes an idiot, he rescued darkseid and got planted into the source wall.
superman can be such a putz sometimes.
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DS begged for a quarter...BA cowered like a trick.
In Adams defence, its not his fault he was ported away. Les not forget that he was tricked into being there. When SBP hit him he was too far away from the machine and got ported back. Not under his own will. When they showed him right after a couple of panels later, he was fine and had a look of confusion on his face. Im sure that fight would have lasted longer.
I think SBP really felt the first 2 hits Adam gave him. Pain wise. After, thats when the mocking came in imo. Only because the suit was keeping him at 100% peak or powered or whatever you want to call it.
Les be honest here. Supes didnt even get to fight SBP when he was in the suit. If he did, he would have got slapped just like Adam did. BOTH Supermen was holding in to suited up SBP for dear life when going throught the k-nite field and the red sun. TRUE, Supes was weakened when he finally engaged SBP in combat, but so was SBP. Also, Our Superman got up BEFORE Earth 2 Superman, which didnt make sense at all. However he did get downed by a blast of heat vision and the slug fest they had was when BOTH SBP and our Supes was weakened.
If we're going to compare, les at least be fair about it.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindba doesnt cower. he kills people. superman doesnt have the guts to get things down like teth. id love to have seen superman fly in khandaq airspace. supes would hve left if not under his own power then teth woul dhave forced him out.
The year he took off?Well deserved...while Teth got slapped like a biatch...Supes was out there saving the universe.
Face the facts. Teth was pwned.
DS begged for a quarter...BA cowered like a trick.
message is dont f--k wit teth.
Originally posted by jrodslamthats how a lot of people argue on here. they arent fasir about it and try to twist things around. when the facts show us all something different. it took 2 supermen and a whole lotta backup to secure sbp. one of the supermen died.
I think SBP really felt the first 2 hits Adam gave him. Pain wise. After, thats when the mocking came in imo. Only because the suit was keeping him at 100% peak or powered or whatever you want to call it.Les be honest here. Supes didnt even get to fight SBP when he was in the suit. If he did, he would have got slapped just like Adam did. BOTH Supermen was holding in to suited up SBP for dear life when going throught the k-nite field and the red sun. TRUE, Supes was weakened when he finally engaged SBP in combat, but so was SBP. Also, Our Superman got up BEFORE Earth 2 Superman, which didnt make sense at all. However he did get downed by a blast of heat vision and the slug fest they had was when BOTH SBP and our Supes was weakened.
If we're going to compare, les at least be fair about it.
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poor old kal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
ba doesnt cower. he kills people. superman doesnt have the guts to get things down like teth. id love to have seen superman fly in khandaq airspace. supes would hve left if not under his own power then teth woul dhave forced him out.message is dont f--k wit teth.
Superman went up to Adam himself and pushed him to fight.
Teth backed off like a bi@tch.
But just like with Thanos threads...you won't see the truth.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindu exaggerate. superman backed down like a bich for a whole year. thats called not manning up. a whole year. black adam doesnt back down from the spectre, if he wanted supermans head on a platter hed have it.
Superman went up to Adam himself and pushed him to fight.Teth backed off like a bi@tch.
But just like with Thanos threads...you won't see the truth.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Now you're being dense.Thor vs Galactus isn't the same as Superman vs Teth, since Galactus isn't an acknowledged peer to Thor.
Galactus in a weak unto death hungering state<Thor's Godblast.
That isn't to say Galactus<Thor, and you know it.
Batman has the winning record vs Superman, yet you'll never see me saying he's a peer in power, which is what DC says about the shazams.
And it doesn't throw out their feats to say Superman pushing a planet in one comic, isn't proof he's stronger than the Shazams.
It just says that while he's strong enough to overcome a planets weight and gravity, he's not strong enough to overcome the power of Shazam.
The feat still stands Batshit.
Because if you wanna go the direct feat route, GL Kyle>Superman, and Surfer>The conventional top tier as a whole.
But that's just going by feats.
Superman isn't >Darkseid, since we've seen Darkseid handle Superman fine in previous years.
Continuity helps Darkseid a bit.
Darkseid just isn't>>>Superman like we would've said 10 years ago, since in direct combat it's been proven that Darkseid can be beaten, if not for the majority.
Superman isn't as powerful as Surfer.
His powers can't access the range that Surfer's can, tho they can come close sometimes.
But Superman vs Surfer currently, goes to Superman, since he's more battle oriented than Surfer is.
All i'm saying, is that while Superman would likely get the nod in a comic, that comic hasn't been printed yet.
Superman can beat on all the multiversal(ha, the dude created faux realities, not entire universes which is the requirement for multiversal reality warping......keep touting it as that tho) ghoulies he wants, but as long as he stalemates Cap and Teth, he doesn't get the nod.
He gets a split.
And why would a sun amped Superman automatically defeat a powered up Teth?
Cuz he can drop mental blocks?
LOL @ Omnifag calling me dense.
I’m using direct comparisons just as you are. But I guess direct comparisons just don’t count unless you deem them equals? And what exactly in the first place makes Supes/BA “equals” in your mind? Direct comparisons. So by that logic, Superman is >> Darkseid and Spider-man is>>Firelord. Obviously those are exaggerations, but you get my meaning.
Simply because they can go toe to toe with one another for a little bit doesn’t mean that Black Adam is directly equal to Superman in strength, Omnifag. It doesn’t work that way. If Superman towed a planet, that feat isn’t correlative to Black Adam. In other words, you can’t use Superman’s strength feats for Teth.
Actually, it was stated in War of the Gods that Wonder Woman = Captain Marvel in strength iirc. And Diana is respectfully<Superman.
In a forum style fight, Superman owns Adam. This doesn’t have to be a toe to toe slugfest like in the comics.
Adam is vulnerable to high frequency noises:
http://img139.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=caf0f_justice14.jpg
Super sonic whistle ftw. And just for the record, three hundred decibels is less than twice the volume of a shotgun blast.
Superman can vibrate his body’s molecules on any frequency he wants. He could make himself virtually untouchable.
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman617fi2.jpg
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/5iwJ/view-image/superman-v-2--26.html
So basically what this comes down to is a less versatile wannabe Superman flunky vs. Superman himself. Teth loses. Adam’s power output is not = to Superman’s. End of story. We’ve seen enough crazy feats from Superman in the past five years that can attest to that.
black adam hits harder than superman/ its that simple. strength they are roughly equal. but teth gets the advantage becuz he doesnt hold back while supes does. i love how people who favor superman completely ignore his weakness to magic. its like the want to push it under the rug. sorry u cant do that.
Here's what I'm guessing you said: "Blah blah blah some nonsensical bullshit about how Adam doesn't hold back blah blah blah."
You just can't accept the fact that Superman is all around more impressive and more powerful than Adam, can you? 😂
Meh. You have no credibility as far as I'm concerned, and you're opinions mean nothing to me.
