superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Originally posted by quanchi112
this fight would be awesome to see no doubt. i see supes in the slgihest of a majority as possible. but its so close it really could go either way. but i still side with supes sundipped for the win.

While I agree that the fight (a more appropos phrase would be 'the beating'😉 would be awesome to see, I have to totally disagree with you when you state that it would be close. This fight (beating) would not be close to the slightest degree ....what it would be is one insane curb stomp.

Now, let me explain. Actually, before I do that I want to raise two issues that you yourself brought into this thread.

The first was your initial post, in which you said:

i)
'superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?'

You clearly state that both are out for the kill.

The second point I want to raise is the following (which comes from the KMC rules, a set of rules that EVERYONE should read before posting ...if people read those rules around 90-95% of the stupid junk posted on the forum would no longer be churned out):

ii)
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Now, what is the meaning of this? It means that per KMC rules both characters shall be fighting to the best of their abilities (meaning that Black Adam will be pushing the powers granted to him by SHAZAM to their fullest, while Kal-El will also be stretching his Kryptonian powers to their utmost). Thus none of them will be holding back!

Alright.

However, as we both know, Black Adam is more vicious than Superman is. That is one of 2 reasons why he is always protrayed as 'stronger' than Captain Marvel (the other reason, which is not as big, is that Cap Marvel tends to have his powers split between Mary marvel and Marvel Junior ....while Teth tends to have all of his to himself, although in a recent arc he had also split his powers ....but that is not important since the major thing that marks BA as 'special' is that he uses his powers in a very ruthless manner).

HOWEVER, in your rush to post you also stated that Superman would be (to quote you) have a state of mind to kill. That means that Superman would not ONLY be fighting per KMC rules, BUT THAT HE WOULD ALSO be out to kill Black Adam.

Not defeat Black Adam ....not soften him up .....not teach him a lesson.

Kill him!

Outrightly kill him.

What you just did, my dear Quanchi, is effectively negate the ONLY advantage that Black Adam MIGHT have had against Superman. You basically ensured that Black Adam would lose in your very first post on this thread.

BUT ...it doesn't end there. You decided to go further. This is what you said (and the third thing on my list):

iii)
The Title of the Thread:
superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Now, you stated that the fight would be between a sun-dipped Superman and Black Adam (based on his fight against the bunch of heroes in WW3).

Now, there are several things you need to realize. A sun-dipped Superman is something that is on an entirely different level. It is like bloody giving Popeye peyote-enriched Spinach! Or like enraging the Hulk for weeks on end while bathing him in enhanced Gamma radiation! Or like taking a Green Lantern and having his ring be able to tap into the ENTIRE power of Oa!

In essence, you are basically taking every single Kryptonian ability that Superman has, and amping it up to the nth level. (Note: The Sun Dip was a literary tool that DC could use when they wanted to take post-crisis Superman back to his pre-crisis ability levels for short-periods of time. It is a 'deus ex machina' (wiki the term) tool for when they wanted to have the powered-down post-crisis Superman achieve feat levels that were more akin to his pre-crisis days. Thus the sun-dip ....i.e. how do you have Superman handle a threat that is beyond his powers and would be against all logic ...simply have him spend some time near/on/in/at a/the yellow Sun).

What about BA in WW3? Well, that was simply BA being the same ol' bada$$ he is and stomping a bunch of heroes (although the whole thing with MM was stretched).

Anyways, having a sun-dipped Superman going against Black Adam (no matter how 'ruthless'😉 is simply tantamount to suicide for BA.

Conclusion:

This is a curbstomp!
Black Adam is attacked on Earth while Superman is still in the Sun's corona (you saw what some heat vision did to BA's face in that scan ....now imagine sun-amped heat vision striking a man sized object).

And I know someone will say that Black Adam is magically powered and that his powers (punches) could affect Superman.

Well, true ....but ask yourself this ....in a KMC fight (where none of the characters are holding back) when would BA have the opportunity to lay his hands on Kal El? BA is fast ....but not as fast as Superman (not to mention a sun-dipped one). And someone will say that BA will use the magical lightning to hit Kal (he had to use it on MM once)....but that would depower BA into his human state, and would that be prudent when you are facing a SUN-DIPPED SUPERMAN out to KILL YOU?

Superman (sun dipped) wins this 10/10.

It is not even a contest. Not the closest.

If you wanted to make it a fairer fight (note: I did not say fair) then you would have made it a fight between BA and Superman (none sun-dipped). And even then I would have given Superman the win (why? Read the KMC rules again ....the only way BA could hurt Superman is through the lightning, or by getting close enough to punch him. However, Superman has a variety of long-range attacks he could use that would put him out of range of BA's magically enhanced physical attacks). Now, in comic books what would happen is that the two would be trading physical blows within arm's length of each other, and then Superman would stupidly give BA a bear hug - at which point BA would call down the magical lightning that would smite Kal El like he was a rat inside a microwave. Goodness, that same approach has been used at least THREE TIMES in various depictions of fights against Captain Marvel and Superman. But in a KMC fight .....)

Anyways, Sun-dipped Superman vs Black Adam = Black Adam dies. Quickly.

Originally posted by spetznaz
While I agree that the fight (a more appropos phrase would be 'the beating'😉 would be awesome to see, I have to totally disagree with you when you state that it would be close. This fight (beating) would not be close to the slightest degree ....what it would be is one insane curb stomp.

Now, let me explain. Actually, before I do that I want to raise two issues that you yourself brought into this thread.

The first was your initial post, in which you said:

i)
[b]'superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?'

You clearly state that both are out for the kill.

The second point I want to raise is the following (which comes from the KMC rules, a set of rules that EVERYONE should read before posting ...if people read those rules around 90-95% of the stupid junk posted on the forum would no longer be churned out):

ii)
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Now, what is the meaning of this? It means that per KMC rules both characters shall be fighting to the best of their abilities (meaning that Black Adam will be pushing the powers granted to him by SHAZAM to their fullest, while Kal-El will also be stretching his Kryptonian powers to their utmost). Thus none of them will be holding back!

Alright.

However, as we both know, Black Adam is more vicious than Superman is. That is one of 2 reasons why he is always protrayed as 'stronger' than Captain Marvel (the other reason, which is not as big, is that Cap Marvel tends to have his powers split between Mary marvel and Marvel Junior ....while Teth tends to have all of his to himself, although in a recent arc he had also split his powers ....but that is not important since the major thing that marks BA as 'special' is that he uses his powers in a very ruthless manner).

HOWEVER, in your rush to post you also stated that Superman would be (to quote you) have a state of mind to kill. That means that Superman would not ONLY be fighting per KMC rules, BUT THAT HE WOULD ALSO be out to kill Black Adam.

Not defeat Black Adam ....not soften him up .....not teach him a lesson.

Kill him!

Outrightly kill him.

What you just did, my dear Quanchi, is effectively negate the ONLY advantage that Black Adam MIGHT have had against Superman. You basically ensured that Black Adam would lose in your very first post on this thread.

BUT ...it doesn't end there. You decided to go further. This is what you said (and the third thing on my list):

iii)
The Title of the Thread:
superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Now, you stated that the fight would be between a sun-dipped Superman and Black Adam (based on his fight against the bunch of heroes in WW3).

Now, there are several things you need to realize. A sun-dipped Superman is something that is on an entirely different level. It is like bloody giving Popeye peyote-enriched Spinach! Or like enraging the Hulk for weeks on end while bathing him in enhanced Gamma radiation! Or like taking a Green Lantern and having his ring be able to tap into the ENTIRE power of Oa!

In essence, you are basically taking every single Kryptonian ability that Superman has, and amping it up to the nth level. (Note: The Sun Dip was a literary tool that DC could use when they wanted to take post-crisis Superman back to his pre-crisis ability levels for short-periods of time. It is a 'deus ex machina' (wiki the term) tool for when they wanted to have the powered-down post-crisis Superman achieve feat levels that were more akin to his pre-crisis days. Thus the sun-dip ....i.e. how do you have Superman handle a threat that is beyond his powers and would be against all logic ...simply have him spend some time near/on/in/at a/the yellow Sun).

What about BA in WW3? Well, that was simply BA being the same ol' bada$$ he is and stomping a bunch of heroes (although the whole thing with MM was stretched).

Anyways, having a sun-dipped Superman going against Black Adam (no matter how 'ruthless'😉 is simply tantamount to suicide for BA.

Conclusion:

This is a curbstomp!
Black Adam is attacked on Earth while Superman is still in the Sun's corona (you saw what some heat vision did to BA's face in that scan ....now imagine sun-amped heat vision striking a man sized object).

And I know someone will say that Black Adam is magically powered and that his powers (punches) could affect Superman.

Well, true ....but ask yourself this ....in a KMC fight (where none of the characters are holding back) when would BA have the opportunity to lay his hands on Kal El? BA is fast ....but not as fast as Superman (not to mention a sun-dipped one). And someone will say that BA will use the magical lightning to hit Kal (he had to use it on MM once)....but that would depower BA into his human state, and would that be prudent when you are facing a SUN-DIPPED SUPERMAN out to KILL YOU?

Superman (sun dipped) wins this 10/10.

It is not even a contest. Not the closest.

If you wanted to make it a fairer fight (note: I did not say fair) then you would have made it a fight between BA and Superman (none sun-dipped). And even then I would have given Superman the win (why? Read the KMC rules again ....the only way BA could hurt Superman is through the lightning, or by getting close enough to punch him. However, Superman has a variety of long-range attacks he could use that would put him out of range of BA's magically enhanced physical attacks). Now, in comic books what would happen is that the two would be trading physical blows within arm's length of each other, and then Superman would stupidly give BA a bear hug - at which point BA would call down the magical lightning that would smite Kal El like he was a rat inside a microwave. Goodness, that same approach has been used at least THREE TIMES in various depictions of fights against Captain Marvel and Superman. But in a KMC fight .....)

Anyways, Sun-dipped Superman vs Black Adam = Black Adam dies. Quickly. [/B]

just becuz superman sunamped beat down darkseid doesnt make him unbeatable. not by any stretch of the word. did u read ww 3 and did u see wha black adam was doing to all the heroes. he was smacking them around. hero after hero was being put down. so if ur asking me whats more impressive ww3 or superman sundipped i would have to say ww3. he was fighting more than one opponenet and it lasted a very long time. i still see supes winning a slight majority, but that is it at best.

and the last time i checked u dont need magic to hurt superman only u could punch his face in also. u act like its only magic alone that could beat him, wrong. black adam is his equal in terms of strength in my opinion. only thing giving supes a slight advantage in my opinion is supermans sun tan.

😉

Superman's ran through the Earth heroes as well. What black adam did in world war three was nothing that Superman couldn't do if he felt like it....

Black Adam and Superman are approximate equals when Kal-El ISN'T sundipped.

Sundipping exponentially raises Superman's power...

Originally posted by Soljer
Superman's ran through the Earth heroes as well. What black adam did in world war three was nothing that Superman couldn't do if he felt like it....

Black Adam and Superman are approximate equals when Kal-El ISN'T sundipped.

Sundipping exponentially raises Superman's power...

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes it raises supermans power. but still black adam has the tools ans the fists to punch superman around. this is very evenly matched.

Very" eloquently" Put. 😘

Originally posted by quanchi112
wow. u are so wrong, it isnt even funny here. while most disagree on who would win this outcome very few would dare call this a curbstomp in anyone's favor.

just becuz superman sunamped beat down darkseid doesnt make him unbeatable. not by any stretch of the word. did u read ww 3 and did u see wha black adam was doing to all the heroes. he was smacking them around. hero after hero was being put down. so if ur asking me whats more impressive ww3 or superman sundipped i would have to say ww3. he was fighting more than one opponenet and it lasted a very long time. i still see supes winning a slight majority, but that is it at best.

and the last time i checked u dont need magic to hurt superman only u could punch his face in also. u act like its only magic alone that could beat him, wrong. black adam is his equal in terms of strength in my opinion. only thing giving supes a slight advantage in my opinion is supermans sun tan.

😉

👇 Spetnaz just destroyed all your points, as pitiful as they were as usual.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
👇 Spetnaz just destroyed all your points, as pitiful as they were as usual.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Very" eloquently" Put. 😘

Originally posted by spetznaz
While I agree that the fight (a more appropos phrase would be 'the beating'😉 would be awesome to see, I have to totally disagree with you when you state that it would be close. This fight (beating) would not be close to the slightest degree ....what it would be is one insane curb stomp.

Now, let me explain. Actually, before I do that I want to raise two issues that you yourself brought into this thread.

The first was your initial post, in which you said:

i)
[b]'superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?'

You clearly state that both are out for the kill.

The second point I want to raise is the following (which comes from the KMC rules, a set of rules that EVERYONE should read before posting ...if people read those rules around 90-95% of the stupid junk posted on the forum would no longer be churned out):

ii)
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Now, what is the meaning of this? It means that per KMC rules both characters shall be fighting to the best of their abilities (meaning that Black Adam will be pushing the powers granted to him by SHAZAM to their fullest, while Kal-El will also be stretching his Kryptonian powers to their utmost). Thus none of them will be holding back!

Alright.

However, as we both know, Black Adam is more vicious than Superman is. That is one of 2 reasons why he is always protrayed as 'stronger' than Captain Marvel (the other reason, which is not as big, is that Cap Marvel tends to have his powers split between Mary marvel and Marvel Junior ....while Teth tends to have all of his to himself, although in a recent arc he had also split his powers ....but that is not important since the major thing that marks BA as 'special' is that he uses his powers in a very ruthless manner).

HOWEVER, in your rush to post you also stated that Superman would be (to quote you) have a state of mind to kill. That means that Superman would not ONLY be fighting per KMC rules, BUT THAT HE WOULD ALSO be out to kill Black Adam.

Not defeat Black Adam ....not soften him up .....not teach him a lesson.

Kill him!

Outrightly kill him.

What you just did, my dear Quanchi, is effectively negate the ONLY advantage that Black Adam MIGHT have had against Superman. You basically ensured that Black Adam would lose in your very first post on this thread.

BUT ...it doesn't end there. You decided to go further. This is what you said (and the third thing on my list):

iii)
The Title of the Thread:
superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Now, you stated that the fight would be between a sun-dipped Superman and Black Adam (based on his fight against the bunch of heroes in WW3).

Now, there are several things you need to realize. A sun-dipped Superman is something that is on an entirely different level. It is like bloody giving Popeye peyote-enriched Spinach! Or like enraging the Hulk for weeks on end while bathing him in enhanced Gamma radiation! Or like taking a Green Lantern and having his ring be able to tap into the ENTIRE power of Oa!

In essence, you are basically taking every single Kryptonian ability that Superman has, and amping it up to the nth level. (Note: The Sun Dip was a literary tool that DC could use when they wanted to take post-crisis Superman back to his pre-crisis ability levels for short-periods of time. It is a 'deus ex machina' (wiki the term) tool for when they wanted to have the powered-down post-crisis Superman achieve feat levels that were more akin to his pre-crisis days. Thus the sun-dip ....i.e. how do you have Superman handle a threat that is beyond his powers and would be against all logic ...simply have him spend some time near/on/in/at a/the yellow Sun).

What about BA in WW3? Well, that was simply BA being the same ol' bada$$ he is and stomping a bunch of heroes (although the whole thing with MM was stretched).

Anyways, having a sun-dipped Superman going against Black Adam (no matter how 'ruthless'😉 is simply tantamount to suicide for BA.

Conclusion:

This is a curbstomp!
Black Adam is attacked on Earth while Superman is still in the Sun's corona (you saw what some heat vision did to BA's face in that scan ....now imagine sun-amped heat vision striking a man sized object).

And I know someone will say that Black Adam is magically powered and that his powers (punches) could affect Superman.

Well, true ....but ask yourself this ....in a KMC fight (where none of the characters are holding back) when would BA have the opportunity to lay his hands on Kal El? BA is fast ....but not as fast as Superman (not to mention a sun-dipped one). And someone will say that BA will use the magical lightning to hit Kal (he had to use it on MM once)....but that would depower BA into his human state, and would that be prudent when you are facing a SUN-DIPPED SUPERMAN out to KILL YOU?

Superman (sun dipped) wins this 10/10.

It is not even a contest. Not the closest.

If you wanted to make it a fairer fight (note: I did not say fair) then you would have made it a fight between BA and Superman (none sun-dipped). And even then I would have given Superman the win (why? Read the KMC rules again ....the only way BA could hurt Superman is through the lightning, or by getting close enough to punch him. However, Superman has a variety of long-range attacks he could use that would put him out of range of BA's magically enhanced physical attacks). Now, in comic books what would happen is that the two would be trading physical blows within arm's length of each other, and then Superman would stupidly give BA a bear hug - at which point BA would call down the magical lightning that would smite Kal El like he was a rat inside a microwave. Goodness, that same approach has been used at least THREE TIMES in various depictions of fights against Captain Marvel and Superman. But in a KMC fight .....)

Anyways, Sun-dipped Superman vs Black Adam = Black Adam dies. Quickly. [/B]

Originally posted by Juntai
👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
so u think black adam gets destroyed here and rather quickly at that? 🙄

Any sensible DC Fan would think so.

Originally posted by spetznaz
While I agree that the fight (a more appropos phrase would be 'the beating'😉 would be awesome to see, I have to totally disagree with you when you state that it would be close. This fight (beating) would not be close to the slightest degree ....what it would be is one insane curb stomp.

Now, let me explain. Actually, before I do that I want to raise two issues that you yourself brought into this thread.

The first was your initial post, in which you said:

i)
[b]'superman from the story where he fought ds and took him to the sun vs black adam from ww 3. they both have the stae of mind to kill the ohter. who wins this anger fest?'

You clearly state that both are out for the kill.

The second point I want to raise is the following (which comes from the KMC rules, a set of rules that EVERYONE should read before posting ...if people read those rules around 90-95% of the stupid junk posted on the forum would no longer be churned out):

ii)
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.

Now, what is the meaning of this? It means that per KMC rules both characters shall be fighting to the best of their abilities (meaning that Black Adam will be pushing the powers granted to him by SHAZAM to their fullest, while Kal-El will also be stretching his Kryptonian powers to their utmost). Thus none of them will be holding back!

Alright.

However, as we both know, Black Adam is more vicious than Superman is. That is one of 2 reasons why he is always protrayed as 'stronger' than Captain Marvel (the other reason, which is not as big, is that Cap Marvel tends to have his powers split between Mary marvel and Marvel Junior ....while Teth tends to have all of his to himself, although in a recent arc he had also split his powers ....but that is not important since the major thing that marks BA as 'special' is that he uses his powers in a very ruthless manner).

HOWEVER, in your rush to post you also stated that Superman would be (to quote you) have a state of mind to kill. That means that Superman would not ONLY be fighting per KMC rules, BUT THAT HE WOULD ALSO be out to kill Black Adam.

Not defeat Black Adam ....not soften him up .....not teach him a lesson.

Kill him!

Outrightly kill him.

What you just did, my dear Quanchi, is effectively negate the ONLY advantage that Black Adam MIGHT have had against Superman. You basically ensured that Black Adam would lose in your very first post on this thread.

BUT ...it doesn't end there. You decided to go further. This is what you said (and the third thing on my list):

iii)
The Title of the Thread:
superman(sundipped)vs black adam (ww3)

Now, you stated that the fight would be between a sun-dipped Superman and Black Adam (based on his fight against the bunch of heroes in WW3).

Now, there are several things you need to realize. A sun-dipped Superman is something that is on an entirely different level. It is like bloody giving Popeye peyote-enriched Spinach! Or like enraging the Hulk for weeks on end while bathing him in enhanced Gamma radiation! Or like taking a Green Lantern and having his ring be able to tap into the ENTIRE power of Oa!

In essence, you are basically taking every single Kryptonian ability that Superman has, and amping it up to the nth level. (Note: The Sun Dip was a literary tool that DC could use when they wanted to take post-crisis Superman back to his pre-crisis ability levels for short-periods of time. It is a 'deus ex machina' (wiki the term) tool for when they wanted to have the powered-down post-crisis Superman achieve feat levels that were more akin to his pre-crisis days. Thus the sun-dip ....i.e. how do you have Superman handle a threat that is beyond his powers and would be against all logic ...simply have him spend some time near/on/in/at a/the yellow Sun).

What about BA in WW3? Well, that was simply BA being the same ol' bada$$ he is and stomping a bunch of heroes (although the whole thing with MM was stretched).

Anyways, having a sun-dipped Superman going against Black Adam (no matter how 'ruthless'😉 is simply tantamount to suicide for BA.

Conclusion:

This is a curbstomp!
Black Adam is attacked on Earth while Superman is still in the Sun's corona (you saw what some heat vision did to BA's face in that scan ....now imagine sun-amped heat vision striking a man sized object).

And I know someone will say that Black Adam is magically powered and that his powers (punches) could affect Superman.

Well, true ....but ask yourself this ....in a KMC fight (where none of the characters are holding back) when would BA have the opportunity to lay his hands on Kal El? BA is fast ....but not as fast as Superman (not to mention a sun-dipped one). And someone will say that BA will use the magical lightning to hit Kal (he had to use it on MM once)....but that would depower BA into his human state, and would that be prudent when you are facing a SUN-DIPPED SUPERMAN out to KILL YOU?

Superman (sun dipped) wins this 10/10.

It is not even a contest. Not the closest.

If you wanted to make it a fairer fight (note: I did not say fair) then you would have made it a fight between BA and Superman (none sun-dipped). And even then I would have given Superman the win (why? Read the KMC rules again ....the only way BA could hurt Superman is through the lightning, or by getting close enough to punch him. However, Superman has a variety of long-range attacks he could use that would put him out of range of BA's magically enhanced physical attacks). Now, in comic books what would happen is that the two would be trading physical blows within arm's length of each other, and then Superman would stupidly give BA a bear hug - at which point BA would call down the magical lightning that would smite Kal El like he was a rat inside a microwave. Goodness, that same approach has been used at least THREE TIMES in various depictions of fights against Captain Marvel and Superman. But in a KMC fight .....)

Anyways, Sun-dipped Superman vs Black Adam = Black Adam dies. Quickly. [/B]

😖mart:

Superman uses anti-Black Adam vision. Then he teaches Black Adam to love his fellow man. 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
Any sensible DC Fan would think so.

Originally posted by Smurf's Martian
Superman uses anti-Black Adam vision. Then he teaches Black Adam to love his fellow man. 🙂

[QUOTE=9297398]Originally posted by quanchi112
wow. u are so wrong, it isnt even funny here. while most disagree on who would win this outcome very few would dare call this a curbstomp in anyone's favor.

Actually it is a curb stomp in Superman's favor ....particularly since you decided to give him a sun-dip and have him killing-mad against BA.\

just becuz superman sunamped beat down darkseid doesnt make him unbeatable. not by any stretch of the word.

It does not make him unbeatable ....it just makes him unbeatable for the likes of Black Adam.

did u read ww 3 and did u see wha black adam was doing to all the heroes. he was smacking them around. hero after hero was being put down.

So freaking what? Take the same set of heroes and have Superman go berserk amongst them. The same thing that BA did to them Superman ('normal' Superman) would do to them as well ....he would just do it to them FASTER than BA since Superman has a whole set of powers that Teth does not have. What happened in WW3 was amazing ....but it is perfectly replicable by someone like Superman. Easily. Goodness!

And if you give Kal a sun dip ......

so if ur asking me whats more impressive ww3 or superman sundipped i would have to say ww3. he was fighting more than one opponenet and it lasted a very long time.

Now, that is the most asinine comment to grace this forum since the days of Wolverine8888! You are ranking Black Adam's feats in WW3 over what Superman is capable of sun-dipped!?! That is just plain foolish. It actually explains something quite well ....you do not know the DCU at all. If you did you would recognize the level of Deus ex Machina that a Kryptonian sun-dip is. And you are saying that BA was more impressive because he was fighting more than 'one opponent' at the same time! Goodness, Superman has done the same (and against far more powerful opponents) while under the influence of Kryptonite poisoning and having been blasted point-blank by a nuclear weapon (and still under Krypto poisoning). And THAT was 'normal' Superman.

And you claim BA is more impressive than a sun-dipped Superman!

i still see supes winning a slight majority, but that is it at best.

Nope. BA wins nothing. Superman with a sun-dip wins every single time. Read up on just what a sun-dip is to a Kryptonian who has the ability to store yellow-sun radiation in his cells.

and the last time i checked u dont need magic to hurt superman only u could punch his face in also. u act like its only magic alone that could beat him, wrong. black adam is his equal in terms of strength in my opinion.

Now, I'd say that Black Adam is Superman's strength equivalent. That is true. However what the magic does is that it adds extra oomph to already prodigious strength. Thus, not only is Superman receiving punches from a person who has his strength levels, but those punches are imbued with magic that weakens Superman (thus producing a 'double whammy' effect). This is why Superman always has issues fighting against BA and Cap. Marvel .....the strength alone would be a problem, but add the magical nature of Cap/BA and Superman ends up having a tough time. The magic makes a tough situation tougher.

However, Black Adam is not the equal in strength of a sun-dipped Superman, and he still needs to be within physical striking range of Superman to hurt him. The only other alternative would be to call upon the magical lightning, although that would have the side-effect of turning BA into his human form.

You did say that this was a Sun-dipped Superman out to kill Black ADam. How prudent would such an action be?

only thing giving supes a slight advantage in my opinion is supermans sun tan.

LOL.

It's been quite some time since I browsed KMC, and last I remember you were primarily a Marvel fan with very little knowledge of DC. From this thread it appears very little has changed ....you still know very little of the DCU (particularly when you say things like BA in WW3 being more impressive than a sun-dipped Superman). The only difference is that at least now you are posting scans (like the one you put up of BA beating up a buunch of heroes).

The thing is ....'normal' Superman could do the same (and has done so). Even people like WonderWoman have easily done so. Supergirl was dislocating jawbones (Superboy) and messing up people like a joke. Actually come think of it several members of the JLA have done the same. That is not that special really ....especially if you READ DC.

And thus stating that what BA did was more impressive than what a sun-dipped Superman could do is just plain silliness.

Goodness, Supergirl could have done what Black Adam did in WW3, done it with far greater efficiency, far greater speed, and killed more people. Without a sun-dip.

Spetz ftw!

You don't even have to read what he write. You just KNOW he's correct.

😛.

Originally posted by spetznaz
[QUOTE=9297398]Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]wow. u are so wrong, it isnt even funny here. while most disagree on who would win this outcome very few would dare call this a curbstomp in anyone's favor.

Actually it is a curb stomp in Superman's favor ....particularly since you decided to give him a sun-dip and have him killing-mad against BA.\

just becuz superman sunamped beat down darkseid doesnt make him unbeatable. not by any stretch of the word.

It does not make him unbeatable ....it just makes him unbeatable for the likes of Black Adam.

did u read ww 3 and did u see wha black adam was doing to all the heroes. he was smacking them around. hero after hero was being put down.

So freaking what? Take the same set of heroes and have Superman go berserk amongst them. The same thing that BA did to them Superman ('normal' Superman) would do to them as well ....he would just do it to them FASTER than BA since Superman has a whole set of powers that Teth does not have. What happened in WW3 was amazing ....but it is perfectly replicable by someone like Superman. Easily. Goodness!

And if you give Kal a sun dip ......

so if ur asking me whats more impressive ww3 or superman sundipped i would have to say ww3. he was fighting more than one opponenet and it lasted a very long time.

Now, that is the most asinine comment to grace this forum since the days of Wolverine8888! You are ranking Black Adam's feats in WW3 over what Superman is capable of sun-dipped!?! That is just plain foolish. It actually explains something quite well ....you do not know the DCU at all. If you did you would recognize the level of Deus ex Machina that a Kryptonian sun-dip is. And you are saying that BA was more impressive because he was fighting more than 'one opponent' at the same time! Goodness, Superman has done the same (and against far more powerful opponents) while under the influence of Kryptonite poisoning and having been blasted point-blank by a nuclear weapon (and still under Krypto poisoning). And THAT was 'normal' Superman.

And you claim BA is more impressive than a sun-dipped Superman!

i still see supes winning a slight majority, but that is it at best.

Nope. BA wins nothing. Superman with a sun-dip wins every single time. Read up on just what a sun-dip is to a Kryptonian who has the ability to store yellow-sun radiation in his cells.

and the last time i checked u dont need magic to hurt superman only u could punch his face in also. u act like its only magic alone that could beat him, wrong. black adam is his equal in terms of strength in my opinion.

Now, I'd say that Black Adam is Superman's strength equivalent. That is true. However what the magic does is that it adds extra oomph to already prodigious strength. Thus, not only is Superman receiving punches from a person who has his strength levels, but those punches are imbued with magic that weakens Superman (thus producing a 'double whammy' effect). This is why Superman always has issues fighting against BA and Cap. Marvel .....the strength alone would be a problem, but add the magical nature of Cap/BA and Superman ends up having a tough time. The magic makes a tough situation tougher.

However, Black Adam is not the equal in strength of a sun-dipped Superman, and he still needs to be within physical striking range of Superman to hurt him. The only other alternative would be to call upon the magical lightning, although that would have the side-effect of turning BA into his human form.

You did say that this was a Sun-dipped Superman out to kill Black ADam. How prudent would such an action be?

only thing giving supes a slight advantage in my opinion is supermans sun tan.

LOL.

It's been quite some time since I browsed KMC, and last I remember you were primarily a Marvel fan with very little knowledge of DC. From this thread it appears very little has changed ....you still know very little of the DCU (particularly when you say things like BA in WW3 being more impressive than a sun-dipped Superman). The only difference is that at least now you are posting scans (like the one you put up of BA beating up a buunch of heroes).

The thing is ....'normal' Superman could do the same (and has done so). Even people like WonderWoman have easily done so. Supergirl was dislocating jawbones (Superboy) and messing up people like a joke. Actually come think of it several members of the JLA have done the same. That is not that special really ....especially if you READ DC.

And thus stating that what BA did was more impressive than what a sun-dipped Superman could do is just plain silliness.

Goodness, Supergirl could have done what Black Adam did in WW3, done it with far greater efficiency, far greater speed, and killed more people. Without a sun-dip. [/B]

superman has gone toe to toe with mm. ba put him down quick. if he would have finished him off mm he couldnt have attacked his mind. prove ur point. superman has also beaten ds without a sunsamp. beatsing darkseid is no big whoop anymore. twenty years ago sure but not nowadays.

Originally posted by quanchi112
why dont u enlighten me about sundipped superman then. provide the scans. i know superman could cause the same amount of damge sundipped thats why i have sundipped supes winning in the slighest of majorities. i do belive superman would win this but u are faling and miserably as to showing how he curbstomps ba.

superman has gone toe to toe with mm. ba put him down quick. if he would have finished him off mm he couldnt have attacked his mind. prove ur point. superman has also beaten ds without a sunsamp. beatsing darkseid is no big whoop anymore. twenty years ago sure but not nowadays.

Easy ....KMC has a Superman Respect thread. It has a lot of scans. Go through them.

What a sun-dip would do is enhance all the abilities you see Superman using to the nth level.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Easy ....KMC has a Superman Respect thread. It has a lot of scans. Go through them.

What a sun-dip would do is enhance all the abilities you see Superman using to the nth level.