The Dark Knight Teaser Trailer Revealed!

Started by Il.Mozalini5 pages

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I think it's lame and it should stay the way it's supposed to be. The Joker is the Joker because of an accident and his appearance is a part of that one bad day he had.

What's next? Two face is just gonna tape a mardi gras mask to the other side of his face to demonstrate his madness? I mean is it REALLY that much for them to make the Joker look like that as apart of his accident? It's just another thing Nolan is changing to make Batman more "real" and I personally think it's lame because there is no real reason to do it. Joker was a psycho without having to put on lipstick and makeup every morning.

Two-Face and Joker's situations are VASTLY different, so don't compare the two. THEY ALREADY DID THE WHOLE "Joker's face was messed up as part of an accident' AND IT DID NOT WORK AND WAS LAME! You've got to allow them a shot at changing it a TINY bit. Other wise, DON'T watch the movie and DON'T go to any message boards to ***** about it.

That's not changing it a "tiny" bit, though. That's changing it a lot. The Joker in the comics is a tall, thin, lanky guy with pointy facial features, permanently dyed green hair and permanently dyed white skin. This Joker has a round face, normal features, isn't thin and lanky, doesn't have permanently dyed green hair or permanently dyed white skin, AND has a different style smile concept. There are a lot of things you can compare it to. The Joker's look is the Joker's look...you can't deny that. Its one of those things that makes the character. You know full well that if Nolan decided that Batman should have a blue cowl and everything else should be black, you'd be annoyed at it, so its the same situation. Some things obviously can be changed when going through different media, but there are some things that go against the character. If Spider-Man's eye lenses were squares, don't you think Spider-Man fans would be pissed? If Hulk was blue or Superman had red hair? See what I mean? The Joker is close enough to the Joker that people will know its supposed to be that character, but it isn't close enough that fans of the character aren't justified in being upset about the changes. The Joker using makeup to cover up the fact that he's a normal thug, in a way, simplifies his character and makes him less of a grandiose villain that has become easily the most well known villain in comics. Do you know where I'm getting at? Some little changes could easily be overlooked, but he's changed a lot, and although I LOOOOVED Batman Begins and I have no doubt in my mind that its the best comic book film to date, I'm having a tough time justifying his choices for The Joker in this one.

Well, tiny-bit or not, it adds another dimension to the character, I think, for the better.

Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
Well, tiny-bit or not, it adds another dimension to the character, I think, for the better.
how much more dimension does the the guy need. He's already Batman's most devious, infamous, insane, beloved (by the fans) and most evil of all Batman's villains. Seriously the Joker in B:TAS was phenomenal and had plenty of depth and he had the whole accident.

Originally posted by NoFate007
That's not changing it a "tiny" bit, though. That's changing it a lot. The Joker in the comics is a tall, thin, lanky guy with pointy facial features, permanently dyed green hair and permanently dyed white skin. This Joker has a round face, normal features, isn't thin and lanky, doesn't have permanently dyed green hair or permanently dyed white skin, AND has a different style smile concept. There are a lot of things you can compare it to. The Joker's look is the Joker's look...you can't deny that. Its one of those things that makes the character. You know full well that if Nolan decided that Batman should have a blue cowl and everything else should be black, you'd be annoyed at it, so its the same situation. Some things obviously can be changed when going through different media, but there are some things that go against the character. If Spider-Man's eye lenses were squares, don't you think Spider-Man fans would be pissed? If Hulk was blue or Superman had red hair? See what I mean? The Joker is close enough to the Joker that people will know its supposed to be that character, but it isn't close enough that fans of the character aren't justified in being upset about the changes. The Joker using makeup to cover up the fact that he's a normal thug, in a way, simplifies his character and makes him less of a grandiose villain that has become easily the most well known villain in comics. Do you know where I'm getting at? Some little changes could easily be overlooked, but he's changed a lot, and although I LOOOOVED Batman Begins and I have no doubt in my mind that its the best comic book film to date, I'm having a tough time justifying his choices for The Joker in this one.

This is exactly what I am talking about right here. You are dead on. I love Batman Begins as well despite the fact I think they raped the Ras character but to do this to the Joker, IMO takes away some of who the character is. I'm bothered by it and I am surprised more Nolanites are not since they have always trumpeted how accurate his films are. This is Batman's most infamous villain I don't want him changed that much.

Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
Two-Face and Joker's situations are VASTLY different, so don't compare the two. THEY ALREADY DID THE WHOLE "Joker's face was messed up as part of an accident' AND IT DID NOT WORK AND WAS LAME! You've got to allow them a shot at changing it a TINY bit. Other wise, DON'T watch the movie and DON'T go to any message boards to ***** about it.

I'm not comparing the two characters I am talking about what Nolan is doing to the Joker I don't think is a good idea and I am showing how if you applied a similar concept to another character it STILL sounds ridiculous.

The Joker's face being messed up in an accident I think is one of the things that Batman I did very well especially with them having him have to put ON makeup to cover what he really looked like up. Plus I think the infamous mirror scene is stand out.

But I don't even need all of that in TDK I just need the Joker to have permanent scarring and not be a diva clown who dies his hair and puts on makeup everyday. That is lame.

I'm also kind of bugged about the rumor that Joker is the one who scars Harvey creating Two face.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
This is exactly what I am talking about right here. You are dead on. I love Batman Begins as well despite the fact I think they raped the Ras character but to do this to the Joker, IMO takes away some of who the character is. I'm bothered by it and I am surprised more Nolanites are not since they have always trumpeted how accurate his films are. This is Batman's most infamous villain I don't want him changed that much.
Well it would be kinda not realistic if he had included the Lazarus Pits and the immortal man...

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Well it would be kinda not realistic if he had included the Lazarus Pits and the immortal man...

I didn't need the Lazarus pit but I didn't need him as a trainer for Bruce either.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I didn't need the Lazarus pit but I didn't need him as a trainer for Bruce either.

I did not have a problem with Ra's training Bruce.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
I did not have a problem with Ra's training Bruce.

I viewed it as though I was a person who didn't know much about Batman and it did not take me out of the movie I think it worked in the context of the movie but I do not think it did the character any favors.

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I viewed it as though I was a person who didn't know much about Batman and it did not take me out of the movie I think it worked in the context of the movie but I do not think it did the character any favors.

It worked very well for the movie and served as a great prologue for the film.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
It worked very well for the movie and served as a great prologue for the film.

Yeah it was fine for the film but I don't think it did the character overall any favors.

Ten years down the road there will be Nolan hate for ruining the film. I agree this is 2 much change for the Joker. I like old school. Its just not Joker. The comic Joker would perhaps view this as a disgrace for how he is being shown here.

Originally posted by Joker1237
Ten years down the road there will be Nolan hate for ruining the film. I agree this is 2 much change for the Joker. I like old school. Its just not Joker. The comic Joker would perhaps view this as a disgrace for how he is being shown here.

I won't be the one hatin'. Besides in todays world you must allow for change. What worked when I was a child was fine. What worked for Tim Burton was fine. What is working for Chris Nolan will be a helluva lot better.

Ok in the next installment, lets have Bruce Wayne's brother died, and not his parents. Change.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Umm... cool?

I like that we got some new audio and a logo.... but really that needed to have a closing image of the Joker.

Ok for a Teaser, better as just an anouncement trailer... like they did with Transformers.

agreed.could not have said it better.

Getting bad vibes for this film, i will always go in open minded, but i unlike others did not think the first one was all that

Originally posted by starlock
Getting bad vibes for this film, i will always go in open minded, but i unlike others did not think the first one was all that

BOOOOO!!!!!!!! angrymob

Batman Begins was mint.

This one will be too.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Batman Begins was mint.

This one will be too.

What do you mean? In two weeks I'll be seeing the the teaser trailer and the first 6 minutes of The Dark Knight.