Originally posted by FishyYes they create jobs but not jobs one can keep and still have a livelihood. They lack the money to afford everything needed to be able to live well in our society which keeps them from bettering themselves, perpetuating their situation.
It's my understanding that Walmart creates more jobs then it destroys, so why try to keep it out? Besides keeping it out is not really the way to go. It serves no purpose except for destroy the marketing position of your town and the economical gain of everybody with a job.
Originally posted by FishyGood idea. Except its so hard to raise minimum wage. New Jersey has had $7.25/hour for its minimum wage before the federal minimum wage was raised to the same. Before that? $5.15/hour. Tell me how one is supposed to raise children with wages like that.
Well give them that then.
Originally posted by FishyYea man.
Even communists are bound to get things right every now and then. If workers can't get what they need from a job they need to demand more. Now a company can get more workers easily so they will fire them and leave them on the street, this hurts the economy. If there are to few workers to do jobs that require no real training or education then immigrants are the easiest way to go. Unfortunately that creates a lot of unfortunate downsides and of course economical problems. So raising minimal wages a bit is more beneficial to the country.
Originally posted by Marxman
Good idea. Except its so hard to raise minimum wage. New Jersey has had $7.25/hour for its minimum wage before the federal minimum wage was raised to the same. Before that? $5.15/hour. Tell me how one is supposed to raise children with wages like that.
isn't it glaringly irresponsible of a person to have a child that they know they do not have the means to raise?
I know things happen and you can't always prepare for the future, but someone living on minimum wage should not be complaining to the government when they cannot feed their kids, and imho, are committing gross neglect
Originally posted by MarxmanOh I understand it. Its you who don't. Its not supposed to be something to live off of. Do you know how they figure out minimum wage?
Oh! Good idea! Except most of the people with minimum wage jobs can't. You obviously don't understand the point of having a minimum wage.
Do you realize the effects of raising minimum wage such as inflation?
Originally posted by Bardock42wallbash I'm done with you
Better than you will ever be.
Originally posted by inimalistThat's a bit naive. In the eternal words of Forrest Gump, shit happens.
isn't it glaringly irresponsible of a person to have a child that they know they do not have the means to raise?I know things happen and you can't always prepare for the future, but someone living on minimum wage should not be complaining to the government when they cannot feed their kids, and imho, are committing gross neglect
Originally posted by CreshoskBelieve it or not, minimum wage jobs are not all held by high school students working during the summer. Its the people with mouths to feed. Nobody's gonna be able to support more than themselves with $5.15/hour.
Oh I understand it. Its you who don't. Its not supposed to be something to live off of. Do you know how they figure out minimum wage?Do you realize the effects of raising minimum wage such as inflation?
Originally posted by MarxmanThey're not supposed to.
wallbash I'm done with you
That's a bit naive. In the eternal words of Forrest Gump, shit happens.
Believe it or not, minimum wage jobs are not all held by high school students working during the summer. Its the people with mouths to feed. Nobody's gonna be able to support more than themselves with $5.15/hour.
Now this time instead of arguing FOR minimum wage. answer to show knowledge about it:
Do you know how they figure out minimum wage?
Do you realize the effects of raising minimum wage such as inflation?
Originally posted by Marxman
That's a bit naive. In the eternal words of Forrest Gump, shit happens.
so your argument is that everyone who has a child on minimum wage was:
1) a) not on minimum wage when they decided to have a child
OR
b) were in a position where they could both live on minumum wage and support a child
2) had no other choices, such as birth control, abortion or adoption
3) had long term financial plans in place that accounted for all the costs of child raising
4) had an event occur in their life, that they could not possibly have forseen, which caused them to lose their financial security
wow man. C'mon, you can really make an argument better than that
The doctors work for trusts, which are large independent health bodies, which are ultimately regulated (loosely) by the government. It's mostly funding and recommendations from the government's end.
The distance between a doctor and 'the government' is fairly great, and certainly much further than anything that might infringe upon confidentiality.