Originally posted by Jack Harkness
I mean the one saying hes childish.Oh and funny posts on their way, I am much happier now and thats when I am at my best.
Or my Internets self's worse.
I wish that Italian guy was here I need a dur.
dur's are easy, see? dur
[ csm ] dur [ /csm ]
just take out the spaces if you don't know already...
and no calling people childish ok?
Alright Jack, enough, if you have nothing to post about Spawn, then don't post at all.
As to Takion's theory, it may be possible. However, the Urizen that Spawn, Angela, and Greenworld defeated was a weakened one.
Since he was trapped in the Void for so long, he hasn't consumed in the longest.
He grows as he consumes. Greenworld warned Spawn that if they allow Urizen to continue, the entire world would have been in chaos. By then it would have been too late to stop Urizen.
In Heaven, the angels were arguing that Urizen was growing stronger by the hour. Even Domina was so worried that she disobeyed the Seraphim's orders to stand down.
The 13 Players of the "Rabbit" Game which would have served to summon Urizen to Earth announced that Urizen represnted the Void, an end to free will and thus an end to all conflict.
That is the point of Urizen's existance. To destroy everything, so that there is no more conflict. No more war. And he can. That is why Heaven and Hell feared him so greatly.
The extant to Urizen's power is unknown, but what is known is that he is one of the Elder Gods of the Universe with the elemental power to absord and destroy. And since he represents absolute nullification, he himself cannot be destroyed. Only contained.
He is basically oblivion personified. No good, no evil, just empty darkness.
Okay, in the Latest Issue of Spawn:
WARNING: SPOILERS
Issue 170- Hellhouse
The witch Nyx- who used Spawn's power to travel into Hell to save her freind Thea, who was tricked by Mammon into giving him her magic, who helped Redeemer escape Hell- has a dream about Spawn killing her.
When she wakes up, she asks Spawn if he is still mad at her. He says no, that he understands her reasons for what she did, and that he isn't innocent either. He's done things he has not been proud of.
She talks to him about Nature. She tells him where her power originates, from the power of the Earth * (possibly Greenworld), and that like her, he too can summon this power.
With a spell, she turns his demonic hand back into Al Simmon's human hand. She tells him that deep down inside, he is just like her.
Spawn tells her no. As he speaks, insects come out of his hand. He says that he is indeed part of the Earth, but not like she imagined it. He is composed of the bugs, the maggots, the insects, the parasites, the lowest vermin of the soil.
He sees the Earth through thier eyes.
*************************************
If you guys remember two old characters: Ab and Zab
Abbadon and Zabraxas, are two minor demons, "Gate Openers". They specialize in opening portals between realms, minor or grand.
These are the two demons who released URIZEN under Malebolgia's instructions back in issue # 95. These are the same demons who banished Simon Pure and the rest of the Vampire Covenant with that gateway they created, which in turn also took Sam Twitch's son (who involuntarily became a vampire, because of his girlfreind who was one of them).
Anyways, Ab and Zab were unable to return to Hell, because of the trouble they would get into, so they stayed on Earth. When Armaggedon arrived, they were killed along with everyone else. Spawn brought everyone back, everyone who was on Earth before he wiped everything out with the "White Light".
Spawn (as God Spawn) may have closed the portals to Heaven and Hell, but Ab and Zab were still on Earth. And just like Clown (who was banished to Earth), and Zera (whose decapitated head was recovered by Mammon), Ab and Zab were also stuck on Earth, despite the closings to Heaven and Hell.
Ab and Zab were bored. They lingered around the states with nothing to do. One of them happened to see an ad in a porno magazine for something called "Hellhouse"- an Evangelical showcase which condemned abortionists, Gays and Lesbians, Atheists, and "Liberal" minded citizens (like your typical ultra conservative rightwing nuts).
They decided to go check it out, because it sounded like fun, and there was nothing else to do. As they approach the door, a man tells Zab that they don't need what the Evangelical Hellhousers are selling. He tells them that the "Church of the White Light" has shown the truth, and exposed the Lie of God and Satan.
Ab and Zab enter the "Hellhouse" regardless and talk to a reverend and his assistant Ada. The Reverend tells Ab and Zab that thier mission has always been to put the Fear of God into non beleivers. He claims he has seen the devil, he knows the devil is real, and only through Jesus can they be cleansed. The Reverend says how murderous abortionist women are, how disgusting and perverted Gays and Lesbians are, how sick and twisted people of other religions and idealogies are, and shows them a video of these people being punished severely.
He says that only through Fear can these "sinners" come back to God.
Ab tells the Reverend, "Well, it's kinda hard to put the fear of God into them, when they already experiened Armaggedon and survived it, isn't it ?".
Ada, angered, claims that it was ALL a test from God, and that the "real" Armaggedon is soon to come. The Reverend says that no one beleives anymore, Evangelicals have lost the power they once had, and everyone rejects God and Satan.
Ab and Zab come up with an idea. They tell the Reverend that if its the FEAR OF HELL he wants to inspire, then they can help him. They tell him to give them 48 hours, and within that time, they will show everyone the Truth of Hell.
With black paint and newly constructed doors, Ab and Zab open a gateway into the furthest backshore of Hell ! Ada is skeptical, so she goes through one of the doors. Inside she sees a man hanging by a rope. It's her old Principle, and he is screaming at her for the lies she spread about him when she was his student. She led him to kill himself. He then screams, "It's time to be cleansed of your sins"
When the Reverend hears Ada's screams, he rushed into the door, and sees a giant insectoid-like demon draining the blood out of Ada, having destroyed her face with its tentacles.
The Reverend, terrified, asks Ab and Zab "What did you do ?!?!". Ab and Zab tell The Reverend, "You wanted Hell ? Where here it is you Douchebag !
They reveal to the Reverend that they are truly demons, and that they opened a gateway into a lower minor level of Hell.
As the Reverend tries to run, Spawn arrives. Spawn chains up Ab and Zab, who beg for mercy, and as Spawn is about to punish them he hears light screams from one of the doors...
It sounds familiar....
He looks into the door, and sees Wanda !
She is pregnant, and she is begging Al Simmons not to hit her again.
Originally posted by kevdude
Interesting, I've read a bit about Spawn and a few of the comics. Is the movie any good??? I've heard they are making a Spawn 2 that true LU??
They have been claiming to make a second movie for years now, but there is no official confirmation that a Second Movie is coming out.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
They have been claiming to make a second movie for years now, but there is no official confirmation that a Second Movie is coming out.
Urizen is so bad-ass. It be interesting to see how Spawn goes up to him. Is it possible for Spawn to have power beyond God Spawn? How powerful was God Spawn who in D.C and Marvel could defeat him?
Originally posted by Takion
More like centuries.Urizen is so bad-ass. It be interesting to see how Spawn goes up to him. Is it possible for Spawn to have power beyond God Spawn? How powerful was God Spawn who in D.C and Marvel could defeat him?
God Spawn would have easily defeated the version of Urizen he and Angela faced before.
Nobody knows how powerful a full powered Urizen is though....never been confirmed.
I don't think Spawn could get more powerful than he was at God Spawn status. At God Spawn Status he:
-was immortal
-could not be destroyed
-had infinite everlasting energy at his disposal
-could create and destroy as much life as he wanted with ease
-closed the gates of heaven and hell
-recreated the entire planet Earth
-decapitated Zera
-banished all of the Hellspawns back to Hell
I doubt he could get more powerful. He was equal to God and Satan and second only to The Mother of Creation.
In Marvel/DC, I think only Spectre/LT or Thanos w IG, Lucifer, Micheal, or anyone on that level could possibly do any harm to him.
There is nothing Galactus, Mistress Death, Chaos and Order, Ion, Parallax, Dark Pheonix, or anyone else could possibly do to him.
He can't die or be destroyed. Possibly banished.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
God Spawn would have easily defeated the version of Urizen he and Angela faced before.Nobody knows how powerful a full powered Urizen is though....never been confirmed.
I don't think Spawn could get more powerful than he was at God Spawn status. At God Spawn Status he:
-was immortal
-could not be destroyed
-had infinite everlasting energy at his disposal
-could create and destroy as much life as he wanted with ease
-closed the gates of heaven and hell
-recreated the entire planet Earth
-decapitated Zera
-banished all of the Hellspawns back to HellI doubt he could get more powerful. He was equal to God and Satan and second only to The Mother of Creation.
In Marvel/DC, I think only Spectre/LT or Thanos w IG, Lucifer, Micheal, or anyone on that level could possibly do any harm to him.
There is [b]nothing
Galactus, Mistress Death, Chaos and Order, Ion, Parallax, Dark Pheonix, or anyone else could possibly do to him.He can't die or be destroyed. Possibly banished. [/B]