Originally posted by sauron
ok that list kinda confuses me lolwitchking should go near the top..below sauron and galadriel...as sauroin commands him and technically galadriels is the only one who can kill him......then i would say gandalf saruman, then elrond as i think he could take a balrog.....then glorfindel last, as hes not really, too...well useful in the third age is he.....
so sauron,galadriel,witchking,gandalf,saruman...hang on!
in fact there cant even BE a list galadriel is only person there who can kill wiki apart from sauron, so she SHOULD be second,,,,but there are people, like gandalf who are more powerful than her....so it just wont work!
I thought we're talking about power and not who can win fights or whatever or who can't be killed or whatnot. I'm fully aware that Murazor can't be killed except if you have a Westerness blade with you but I made my list judging by their "power" inside and out.
a Nazgul more powerful than Maiar? I doubt it.
I think I've already told my reason why I placed Galadriel and Elrond before Wiki.
And Glorfindel, I placed him before Wiki because of the reason that they're all scared of him and that just freaking proves how powerful he is compared to them. Why be afraid of an Elf? He's not wielding a Westernesse blade after all. Whether he was involved with the events of the Third Age or not, I still place him before Wiki.
About Wiki, he can't be killed, OK..but what if you have a Westerness blade with you? Then bye-bye Murazor...
We can agree to disagree, but please don't insinuate that my take on this is very wrong and should be changed and yours is right. I didn't just made a grocery list. I actually gave my reasons.
My thoughts if we are doing hierarchies:
In order, greatest first:
Sauron is clearly the most powerful being left on Middle Earth in both the Second and Third Ages.
Gandalf the WHITE says that he is the most dangerous character APART from Sauron. ie, he is much stronger as Gandalf the White than as Gandalf the Grey. Gandalf the White, Tolkein said, was the only character who stood any chance at all of destroying Sauron with the Ring.
Saruman of Many Colours was "falling off in wzardry," by the time the ents attacked Isenguard. One of Tolkein's central motifs is the incremental decay of evil. Saruman was losing his faculties simply because of his nefarious deeds. After Gandalf the White broke his staff and took his colour, he was nothing. However, initially he had been able to hold Gandalf the Grey captive, but Tolkein said that he might not have been wholly bad as yet at this point in the story. Gandalf the White is Saruman "as he should have been."
Gandalf the Grey, much lesser than Gandalf the White.
Galadriel diminished by the end of the book, but she did seem psychically quite powerful at one point.
Elrond: Is skilled in healing and the like. He is wise through age.
The Witchking: Lucky Sauron never retrieved the Ring! The Nazgul would have become even more a threat as a result.
Aragorn is stronger willed and longer lived than inferior men.
Denethor and Faramir have Numenorean blood so are more powerful minded than lesser men. Boromir, in whom the Numenorean traits are recessive, is weaker willed than his father and brother.
Originally posted by shadowy_blue
I thought we're talking about power and not who can win fights or whatever or who can't be killed or whatnot. I'm fully aware that Murazor can't be killed except if you have a Westerness blade with you but I made my list judging by their "power" inside and out.a Nazgul more powerful than Maiar? I doubt it.
I think I've already told my reason why I placed Galadriel and Elrond before Wiki.
And Glorfindel, I placed him before Wiki because of the reason that they're all scared of him and that just freaking proves how powerful he is compared to them. Why be afraid of an Elf? He's not wielding a Westernesse blade after all. Whether he was involved with the events of the Third Age or not, I still place him before Wiki.About Wiki, he can't be killed, OK..but what if you have a Westerness blade with you? Then bye-bye Murazor...
We can agree to disagree, but please don't insinuate that my take on this is very wrong and should be changed and yours is right. I didn't just made a grocery list. I actually gave my reasons.
Glorfy 😍
Originally posted by shadowy_blue
I thought we're talking about power and not who can win fights or whatever or who can't be killed or whatnot. I'm fully aware that Murazor can't be killed except if you have a Westerness blade with you but I made my list judging by their "power" inside and out.a Nazgul more powerful than Maiar? I doubt it.
I think I've already told my reason why I placed Galadriel and Elrond before Wiki.
And Glorfindel, I placed him before Wiki because of the reason that they're all scared of him and that just freaking proves how powerful he is compared to them. Why be afraid of an Elf? He's not wielding a Westernesse blade after all. Whether he was involved with the events of the Third Age or not, I still place him before Wiki.About Wiki, he can't be killed, OK..but what if you have a Westerness blade with you? Then bye-bye Murazor...
We can agree to disagree, but please don't insinuate that my take on this is very wrong and should be changed and yours is right. I didn't just made a grocery list. I actually gave my reasons.
oih well in thats case i spolo9gise, forgive me?
and kit glorfy is grest but not in age three! because all he does is go ASFALOTH! and the horse runs with frodo ! and frodos lkie WHOAH NAZGUL I HAtE YOIU!
and they try to stab him...but he says elberethe and they are like WHAOH he sjusy said elberethn and try to runs
I also think Wiki is better than Balrog... not necessarily stronger, but more mighty because he is driven by the power of the One. No Balrog causes as much terror as Wiki... no Balrog brought Arnor to fall... the Balrogs may be strong, but they are simple and after all only soldiers of Morgoth. Witchy is better 😍
exactly 😛
the witchking of angmar is second in command and below sauron himself! orcs/goblins would kill themselves if he asked them too 😛 he is totally the man!
a balrog, is explained to be
'of the stature of man, but with a larger build, wrapped in shadow and flame'
the balrog isnt the shadow, or the flame, they just wrap around him....the big scary thing with pincers you saw in FOTR isnt accurate to ehat a balrog should be.....
Originally posted by sauron
the balrog isnt the shadow, or the flame, they just wrap around him....
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... and the less there is of something, the better it is... there are at least seven Balrogs (earlier several hundred) and only ONE WITCHY!!!!
And - no man can kill Witchy, but one man is enough to kill five Balrogs
Originally posted by sauron
elves love trees...and animals....and he wandered in forestshe must have encountered tom bombadil, treebeard, and mothy! ALL THE SAME PERSON! who brainwashed him!
^^yet another revelation^^
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NOW I FINALLY UNDERSTAND 😛 🙂 seems very logical... congrats for that revelation 😄
If the balrog wanted to go out and cause great terror, I think he would have succeded, gandalf says himself that swords are no more use, so he could just have taken a long walk down to, lets say Edoras and slain all the people there and burned the village down, now the witchking coulint have done that singel handed! (He couldint even beat Aragorn 😂 )