Originally posted by Juntai
Funny that Batman has stalemated or outright defeated all of the top three you named, and I haven't seen one win over him from any of them.
In fact, Batman just recently outclassed Karate Kid in Brave and the Bold, and that was after a sneak attack. Karate Kid then felt bad that next time, he wouldn't even get the surprise attack in. lol.
Against Cass: The one time he thought he had are beat (in a simple spare) the fight ended with him lecturing, her smirking... and Batman coughing up blood. When they were both under the influence of drugs, Batman was on the defensive the entire time, running away, using gadgets and the environment to his advantage and all he managed to do was stalemate Batgirl... when all she was trying to do was kiss Batman, and he was kicking it into full gear.
Against Dragon: Batman "stalemated" Dragon, because Dragon couldn't be bothered with fighting him and was trying to avoid a fight.
Against Shiva. He has never beaten or stalemated her straight up. He knocked out a mind controlled Shiva, and with the help of Robin he has managed to beat her.
None the less Batman has admitted to Shiva being his better. Shiva has admitted to being Batman's better. Nightwing has implied it. It is DC's oppion that Shiva (Cass, Dragon, Tiger and Hawke) are his better. You can beat around the bush all you want ad try to deny it... but its true.
Originally posted by BattlehammerI'm not saying I THINK he can, I'm saying it was written and drawn as bashing up Karate Kid and making him look like a rookie and getting away before the rest of the Legion showed up again. Karate Kid was still conscious, but his only real hits came from blindsiding Batman while he beat up Invisible Kid. Then Batman got his bearings, smacked up Karate Kid a bit and left.
are you really syaign batman can beat karate kid..............come on now your just beign rediculous.karate kid should have no trouble what so ever with batman.
Originally posted by srankmissingninOnce again, he defeated or stalemated all of them, and none can say the same in reverse. Make up all the excuses you want.
Against Cass: The one time he thought he had are beat (in a simple spare) the fight ended with him lecturing, her smirking... and Batman coughing up blood. When they were both under the influence of drugs, Batman was on the defensive the entire time, running away, using gadgets and the environment to his advantage and all he managed to do was stalemate Batgirl... when all she was trying to do was kiss Batman, and he was kicking it into full gear.Against Dragon: Batman "stalemated" Dragon, because Dragon couldn't be bothered with fighting him and was trying to avoid a fight.
Against Shiva. He has never beaten or stalemated her straight up. He knocked out a mind controlled Shiva, and with the help of Robin he has managed to beat her.
None the less Batman has admitted to Shiva being his better. Shiva has admitted to being Batman's better. Nightwing has implied it. It is DC's oppion that Shiva (Cass, Dragon, Tiger and Hawke) are his better. You can beat around the bush all you want ad try to deny it... but its true.
The one where he coughed up blood? He stopped his own killing blow from hitting her, and she knew it, her eyes went wide in fear. He had her beat.
Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not saying I THINK he can, I'm saying it was written and drawn as bashing up Karate Kid and making him look like a rookie and getting away before the rest of the Legion showed up again. Karate Kid was still conscious, but his only real hits came from blindsiding Batman while he beat up Invisible Kid. Then Batman got his bearings, smacked up Karate Kid a bit and left.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
your an idiot/ if it drawn the size of a great white. If it drawn the shape of a great white. If it drawn the color of a great white it must be a...........blue shark. 😕
they just think "lets draw a shark", they woulld never refer to it as a great white just a shark
Originally posted by the-mr-killer
they just think "lets draw a shark", they woulld never refer to it as a great white just a shark
They draw different sharks allt eh time. such as in wolverine. They draw a tiger shark when he was in warm water and then another issue while in gold water they draw a great white.
The sharks entire structures were different from one another as was the sizes.
Originally posted by Juntai
Funny that Batman has stalemated or outright defeated all of the top three you named, and I haven't seen one win over him from any of them.
In fact, Batman just recently outclassed Karate Kid in Brave and the Bold, and that was after a sneak attack. Karate Kid then felt bad that next time, he wouldn't even get the surprise attack in. lol.
Pretty much. The brave and bold was Waids Karate Kid but its still impressive since Bats was fighting in a manner he was not used to.
Originally posted by Juntai
Once again, he defeated or stalemated all of them, and none can say the same in reverse. Make up all the excuses you want.The one where he coughed up blood? He stopped his own killing blow from hitting her, and she knew it, her eyes went wide in fear. He had her beat.
Heres what it comes down to. Batman says they're better, they say they're better, impartial third part observers say they're better and any time Batman has "stalemated" any of them, there were highly circumstantial occurrences, always leaning in Batman's favour.
... but what ever helps you sleep at night. 😉
hahahaha. I know a lot about IF and you made a stupid mistake thinking I don't.First of all yes his IF comes from mystical means. How ever he can and has amped his stats with out the use of the IF. Most of his stats are amp by normal chi amping means. He only really uses his Iron Fist when punching. He hardly ever uses it to amp his speed and so forth. Most all of that is amped with normal every day chi like shang-chi does.
Ok you made the claim that Shang-Chi can amp up to Spiderman level stats.
Prove it. Lets see this evidence.
under water...............Not to mention it was implied he could have killed the shark by caving it it head......
While your at it show this as well.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Ok you made the claim that Shang-Chi can amp up to Spiderman level stats.Prove it. Lets see this evidence.
While your at it show this as well.
Generally speaking, if you need someone to give you evidence in order for you form an educated opinion, then you probably aren't qualified to post in this thread.
Originally posted by BattlehammerHe never said that, he said what happened, in the comic.
are you really syaign batman can beat karate kid..............come on now your just beign rediculous.karate kid should have no trouble what so ever with batman.
Nevermind, he already explained.
Generally speaking, if you need someone to give you evidence in order for you form an educated opinion, then you probably aren't qualified to post in this thread.
Its called a debate. If someone can't back up there claims that they hold true. Then they probably aren't qualified to post. Since you don't seem to know that. I recommend the same for you.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wow this is one of my stupidest things ive ever heard....incredible.haermm
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You don't go into a debate knowing only one side of the argument. If you aren't familiar enough with both characters to form an accurate, educated opinion then you aren't qualified to post in the thread. Everyone in this thread should know just as much about Shang-Chi as the do about Batman, if you need to rely on other people then you don't know enough about both character's for you opinion to matter.