Wolverine vs Mace Windu with a twist

Started by Sparkz3 pages
Originally posted by jinzin
Without the use of the force or a lightsaber Mace loses this fight horribly based on Wolverine's damage soak alone, in a fight where Mace is aloud either of those two things he'll curb Logans ass.

He is aloud short range force attacks...Incidentally does that mean he has to wait for Logan to get close before he can use force push? cause what exactly is a long range force attack when the force is everywhere?

Originally posted by Howdy Folks
srink how mace lose????

u stupid?


Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine would beat Mace even if he was aloud his saber and long range force attacks.

I can count the times the force has been used during melee combat on one hand. It requires concentration, unless [b]both parties are standing around twiddling their thumbs, nothing more significant then a force push is going down. Wolverine would kick almost any Jedi/Sith's ass (excluding EU of course, then it isn't even a contest) so hard he'd make Durge look like a pussy. [/B]

You might be able to read and type better if you took of your Storm Trooper cosplay outfit.

Originally posted by Sparkz
He is aloud short range force attacks...Incidentally does that mean he has to wait for Logan to get close before he can use force push? cause what exactly is a long range force attack when the force is everywhere?

Yeah i don't know.

hmmm I assumed that we were using EU, strictly based on the movies Wolverine would take most sith and jedi.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah i don't know.

hmmm I assumed that we were using EU, strictly based on the movies Wolverine would take most sith and jedi.

EU?

expanded universe: comics books clone wars games etc etc.

Originally posted by Sparkz
He is aloud short range force attacks...Incidentally does that mean he has to wait for Logan to get close before he can use force push? cause what exactly is a long range force attack when the force is everywhere?

I think Capt is referring to what you see in the Clone Wars cartoon - where Mace Force-Punches several droids to bits.

As I said in my first post

If we use EU then Mace wins.
If we use primary canon only, Wolverine wins.

Anyone disagree?

Originally posted by Soljer
I think Capt is referring to what you see in the Clone Wars cartoon - where Mace Force-Punches several droids to bits.
Clone wars mace destroyed an entire army of those things and he was zipping around like a flying quicksilver.. insane.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
As I said in my first post

If we use EU then Mace wins.
If we use primary canon only, Wolverine wins.

Anyone disagree?

Again without the use of the force or lightsaber, no I don't...

Originally posted by jinzin
expanded universe: comics books clone wars games etc etc.

If thats the case and we are using games then Mace would have a powerful force heal wouldn't he? and speed...seems like this might not be so one sided, but how exactly can he hurt Wolverine without his Lightsabre and without using the force to I dnt know leviatate and strangle him etc...

Originally posted by Sparkz
If thats the case and we are using games then Mace would have a powerful force heal wouldn't he? and speed...seems like this might not be so one sided, but how exactly can he hurt Wolverine without his Lightsabre and without using the force to I dnt know leviatate and strangle him etc...
Battlehammer said no ranged force attacks so i figured that wasn't an option.

By the way I think if you're taking away Mace's lightsaber you should take away Wolverine's claws (adamantium and bone) to even things up.

Yeah but its difficult to access what actually is a long range attack besides lightning. Hmmm I'm tempted say stalemate as both of them can heal pretty much anything if its EU...

With the force and the lightabre Mace could antiocipate his next move do to The Force' limited pre cog and then crush him similar to what magneto did whith his skeleton. Mace=Bad***

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Things that happened the the cartoon impacted events in the movie. Like Grievous coughing in the movie was from Mace crushing his chest in the cartoon.

The reason Grievous was coughing in the movie was because Lucas wanted to portray the evolution of technology in Star Wars.Grievous had almost his entire body replaced.Since he was an early attempt at that kind of surgery.So they made him heavy and had him coughing,showing that he wasn't that successful.Darth Vader was the more perfected form of that surgery.Thus,Grievous was Alpha technology,and Darth Vader was Beta technology.

Wolverine would win without even a thought.

Anywho, as far as canon goes....the link to the wiki I posted earlier explains it.

Pretty much anything with a "LucasFilms" tag on it that DOESN'T contradict the film, novelizations, or statements directly from lucas, is considered canon.

Minus ""What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon," anything produced by LFL? Canon. Including clone wars.

Thusly? Mace is a hoss.

How loosely do they throw around the word "contradict"?

Originally posted by Soljer
Anywho, as far as canon goes....the link to the wiki I posted earlier explains it.

Pretty much anything with a "LucasFilms" tag on it that DOESN'T contradict the film, novelizations, or statements directly from lucas, is considered canon.

Minus ""What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon," anything produced by LFL? Canon. Including clone wars.

Thusly? Mace is a hoss.


correct.

I think he states it in the commentary of one of the films as well.

Not to mention he stated it in an interview

Originally posted by Wally West
By the way I think if you're taking away Mace's lightsaber you should take away Wolverine's claws (adamantium and bone) to even things up.

why? that would not even be fair. mace is a freaking beast.

Originally posted by Soljer
Anywho, as far as canon goes....the link to the wiki I posted earlier explains it.

Pretty much anything with a "LucasFilms" tag on it that DOESN'T contradict the film, novelizations, or statements directly from lucas, is considered canon.

Minus ""What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon," anything produced by LFL? Canon. Including clone wars.

Thusly? Mace is a hoss.

It's all some degree of canon but the cartoons aren't primary canon (... GL uses some letter grade for the levels of canon, but I forget what they are). Only the movies are primary canon, and overrule everything else if there is any sort of contradiction. The cartoons (games/comics/books)contradict the power levels of the characters shown in the movies and thus are overruled by the primary canon.